Greetings,

Great little proggie this DVD2ONE!

I wanted to see if I could get some feedback from this board about something I ran into with the Disney movie "treasure Planet".

I am in the U.S using DVD2ONE 1.2 and DVDdecrypter 3.1.4.0.

After ripping the movie to the HD with DVDdecrypter the first time it gave me an error message. I was extremely surprised since I have never seen an error before using that program. I didn't scribble down the problem and just redid the rip with no problems.

At this point I ran it through DVD2ONE, picked audio, and when we got to picking the track there were two tracks, same length but with different chapters. I went ahead and picked the one with more tracks and burnt the disc.

This was the first coaster I burnt since there was artifacting and black spots all through the movie. I redid the whole movie picking the other track and everything went fine. I also ran this problem by UKlightning at his site asking him about the first rip to the HD.

Does anyone have any idea why this DVD was made like this and are there other ones just like it out there?

Also, I really hate the DVD's who has the WS and the FS on the same disc. It is sometimes hard for someone like me to pick the right track since anamorphic and FS sometimes play pretty close in mediaplayer. An example of this was Disney's Dinosaur. Extremely hard to tell the two apart! Does anyone have any tricks on picking the right version?

Cheers!

I haven't encountered this title yet, but I've found as a general rule that Disney DVDs are a pain in the arse. They have lots of trailers and ads and weird authoring techniques, quite possibly in an attempt to defeat copyists...

Perhaps if you wished upon a star?

-P

Sounds like one of those where there are two similar tracks, and one having more chapters is the director rambling about what a chore this or that was (commentary). When presented with same size but one track a higher number of chaps. I choose the smaller.
Not sure of the error you saw during rip, but it's prudent to keep drive defragged, disk really clean, and sometimes rip from the burner (if 'issues' arise from dvd-rom).
I find ws and fs fairly ease to differentiate in PowerDVD play. The use of AnyDVD saves trouble in this regard as well.
What I hate are the (rare) dvd's that have a printed Widescreen on one side and FullScreen on t'other--but reverse the usual 'label up for that type' convention. I've only come across two like that, but it was a 'got-cha' (I only accept WideScreen).

So, what are you burning with?

It is fairly easy to see the difference between a WS and a FS under regular terms. However, an anamorphic 1:85 WS, especially Dinosaur (Disney movie) was incredibly hard to tell running it through media player. I guess I can run it through some other proggie but I was just curious.

I use copytodvd to burn any DVD-R from DVD2ONE and it works like a charm.

Cheers!

Well I copied about 8 Disneys thus far.
With no problems thus far , but I must mention I haven't done Treasure Planet yet. I know for a fact that Disney started with a new authoring technique or something like that with Lilo & Stitch.

Well I was curious and asked a friend of mine if I could borrow his to experiment on. All I did was use DVDDecrypter 3.1.6.0 (IFO Mode) and DVD2One 1.1.3 (Movie-Only). Then as always I tested the movie with PowerDvD (because everything PowerDVD plays gets played back by my standalone dvd player) and all works fine.

Then I burned it with Nero 5.5.10.0 o a Princo 1 Speed DVD-R and the result was stunning , it was almost perfect (identical to the original).

But I'll test Treasure Planet this or next week and report what happend.

Why IFO Mode and not File/highlighted?

If you encounter what looks like multiple versions of the movie, and want to decide which version to pick, it's useful to play it first using a player that shows you which title is running.

Go through the normal procedure on the menus of setting up the movie you want to watch, and then just check the title number. There are no doubt lots of options in Windows to choose from -- on the Mac Apple Player pressing Control-I while running a disk opens a track/chapter/audio/subtitle info screen.


A VERY easy way to back up DVD-9 disks that have both widescreen and fullscreen versions on the same side:

1. Rip the entire VIDEO_TS folder as files.

2. There will generally be two title sets that are the biggest, and roughly even in size. These will be the two movie versions.

3. Figure out which title number you'd like to delete using the above method. Generally, the title number (3) will correspond to the VTS file set number (VTS_03_1.vob, etc.).

4. In that file set, select all the VTS files starting with the 1024K one, for example:

VTS_03_1.vob 1024 kb
VTS_03_2.vob 1024 kb
VTS_03_3.vob 1024 kb
VTS_03_4.vob 872 kb

Move these into another directory (as opposed to deleting them right away). Be sure to leave the corresponding .ifo and .bup files, as well as the zero-numbered (VTS_03_0.vob) file.

5. Test the contents of this folder using DVD player software that can look at directories.

6. If all worked correctly, you'll have the menus and extras intact, and just the movie version (widescreen or fullscreen) that you wanted to keep. Burn.

Good info...
but I was directing the question of mode in the context of movie-only (as you mentioned that had been your choice).
I usually just go with the Highlighted titleset DVDD defaults to in File-Mode--but I check the first vob with PowerDVD while DVDD is still gronking the rest to see if it's the WS or not. If not, I kill the process and manually select the fileset I want.
I suppose having AnyDVD will eliminate some of this nonsense...at least I hope so (reports are mixed to date).
There are other threads here indicating instances where, even for movie-only, grabbing just the Highlighted set in DVDD is 'issue inducing'. And with other one-clickers (like CloneDVD), one has to manually include all ifo's. Personally, I've never encountered a problem just ripping what DVDD suggests for the main-title/movie-only in File-Mode--but maybe I've just been lucky? [Dunno--but I guess that AnyDVD on-the-fly processing may eliminate that concern as well?]
thanks for response, anyhoo...

If you're unsure which Title Set contains which version (16:9 Widescreen or 4:3 Fullscreen) it's pretty easy to identify using IfoEdit (free download from Doom9). Just open the relevant IFO files to check the aspect ratio of the corresponding Title Set in the Movie attribute section.

e.g.

You're faced with the choice of VTS_01_....etc and VTS_02....etc one is Widescreen the other Fullscreen but which is which?

Start IfoEdit and open VTS_01_0.IFO, look in the VTS overview window: You'll see the first section details Menu attributes: closely followed by the Title Set (Movie) attributes: section.

Simply look at the first line of this section for either (16:9) or (4:3) to identify which aspect ratio your IFO and Title Set (VOB set) contains.

Dead easy

JMP

P.S. Erwin, wouldn't it be possible for DVD2one to display the aspect ratio info in much the same way it already uses the IFO info to display audio and subtitle languages?

jmp1963.

Thanks for the simple tip by just checking in ifoedit. Makes things a lot easier. Now if things could get even a more simple by incorporating that function into DVD2ONE. One may wonder... :-)

Hey Shrekman64

I just came accross this thread and I see you've pretty much had the issue resolved but I just happened to to rip Treasure Planet this past weekend using DVD Decrypter (v3.1.6.0) and DVD2one v1.2.1. I've got the NZ (Region 4) disc but I got two tracks, exactly the same length but one with about 17 chapers (I can't remember exactly) and the other with about 52 chapters.

Before I run DVD2one, I went back to the original disc and played it to find that the normal movie had 17 chapters, so I just transcoded the first track with DVD2one.

This worked fine for me and I burned with Nero v5.5.10.42.

Funny thing happened again with Spirited Away last night that came up with three video tracks (I ripped only the movie files). Track 1 was 2 hours 8 minutes and tracks 2 and 3 were both 2 hours four minutes. I'm still playing with it before I burn. It seems odd that DVD2one shows three video tracks in one set of movie files at a total of about 5.5 GB in size.

Can anyone shed light on this one?

Rarawa,

Spirited Away has 3 different language versions which also affects the video because of the difference in animation where there is text on the screen, i.e. credits, signs, writing, etc.

I can't remember which is which but I seem to remember that the second angle was English. Try it in software before you burn to make sure the text on the screen matches the subtitle you want.


Benn

bennywan

Thanks for that, I'll have a play tonight before I burn. That makes perfect sense now that you've said it.

Cheers. Rarawa

I have to correct myself.

In Spirited Away:

The angles only effect the title credits and end credits as far as I can tell. Other than that, there is no change in the animation. Sorry for any confusion.

Benn