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DVD2One Discuss, Has anyone noticed improvement with 1.1 picture quality? at Copy Movie forum; I know everyone is either happy with the 1:1 feature that version 1.1 offers, or they are angry because it crashes for them(for me it also crashes). What I want to know is, does anyone notice any improvement in the picture quality with the movie only option.


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Old 20-03-2003   #1 (permalink)
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Has anyone noticed improvement with 1.1 picture quality?

I know everyone is either happy with the 1:1 feature that version 1.1 offers, or they are angry because it crashes for them(for me it also crashes). What I want to know is, does anyone notice any improvement in the picture quality with the movie only option. I mean specifically, has the issue where the picture starts getting blocky and pixilation occuring towards the end of the movie been corrected?

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Old 21-03-2003   #2 (permalink)
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Improved quality

I just redid Spartacus, a 3 hour + movie, because I had some momentary freezing and macroblocks on the one I processed with v1.02. These problems disappeared after processing the movie again with v1.11. I didn't watch to notice if the processing time increased though. The early results look excellent, a definite improvement for me. I hope they will work on the option to remove the extra audio's from the full movie option, and get the episodics working. A great program now, with those added features, it would be unbeatable.
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I've noticed movies near 3 hours or more look really crappy using dvd2one, or even instantcopy. I have to go the CCE route to get 3 hour movies to look good. I watch them on an widescreen HDTV monitor, so i guess its more obvious.
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I have to be honest, this is the first time I've heard that the picture quality got worse near the end. I've backed up some pretty long movies: LOTR, Gladiator, Bourne Identity, I had thought that it was pretty constant throughout even with version 1.02.

By the way, this is on a 65" widescreen HDTV monitor and by the time I get to the end of the movie, I'm watching the movie, not really noticing the picture quality anyways. I did notice worse picture quality when doing 1:1 backups of episodal DVD's though.

The new 1.1.1 version does not crash on me, so for those of you that have crashes, it's not DVD2One... it's your set up.

I have:

Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM
Sony DRU-500A
768 MB RAM
Athlon Thunderbird 1.4 GHz
EIDE Drives (40 GB & 80 GB)
Windows 2000 Professional with all updates

Clean install with Office XP, PhotoShop 7.0 and the DVD tools (DVD Decrypter, IfoEdit, VOBEdit, DVD2One).
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Old 22-03-2003   #5 (permalink)
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Quality Has improved.I did a 2hr 30mins movie with the older vrsion1.02and with the new version 1.11and the quality has improved
How ever in full dist mood the quality comes back to the same as 1.02 to me.
needs the option to selecd audio and subtitle tracks in full disk mode

great work guys keep it up
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I've noticed movies near 3 hours or more look really crappy using dvd2one, or even instantcopy. I have to go the CCE route to get 3 hour movies to look good. I watch them on an widescreen HDTV monitor, so i guess its more obvious.
Personally I dont even like the result from a 2hr movie and go down the CCE path. DVD2one is great for those movie where the VOB files are under 5gig and little encoding/transcoding has been done. They are working on this and I'm sure future updates will get better and better.

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The new 1.1.1 version does not crash on me, so for those of you that have crashes, it's not DVD2One... it's your set up.
Thats because your on Windows 2000. Its the same for me.
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the quality is definitly improved but the you can still see this pulsating effect in some scenes.
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I've seen that pulsating effect with dvd2one when the movie is just too long for it. I used Instantcopy7 on the same movie and it didn't have that problem.

Chickenman, i just got done watching a 3 1/2 hour movie that i backed up with CCE and its amazing how good cce is
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The new 1.1.1 version does not crash on me, so for those of you that have crashes, it's not DVD2One... it's your set up.

I have:

Toshiba 16X DVD-ROM
Sony DRU-500A
768 MB RAM
Athlon Thunderbird 1.4 GHz
EIDE Drives (40 GB & 80 GB)
Windows 2000 Professional with all updates

Clean install with Office XP, PhotoShop 7.0 and the DVD tools (DVD Decrypter, IfoEdit, VOBEdit, DVD2One). [/b]
Now if doing a clean install and not having anything on your computer makes the program work for everyone that is a program flaw. DVD2one should work with any setup, it is not acceptable to any programer to have a program that doesnt work if misc programs/drivers are installed on a persons OS. After all, this is just a program, and unless you are going to dedicate your machine to just dvd2one it needs to be addressed and fixxed.


as for picture quality getting worse near the end of the movie, thats either 1 of 2 things, 1) the dvd has too much information on it and your dvd player is straining to read the outter rim of the dvd thus using error correction. 2) possibly dvd2one is not compressing evenly enough across the entire movie, thus when it starts getting near the end of the movie it is attempting to save file size and compressing more then the rest of the movie has been..
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Now if doing a clean install and not having anything on your computer makes the program work for everyone that is a program flaw. DVD2one should work with any setup, it is not acceptable to any programer to have a program that doesnt work if misc programs/drivers are installed on a persons OS. After all, this is just a program, and unless you are going to dedicate your machine to just dvd2one it needs to be addressed and fixxed.
Well--Yes...and no. That argument just HAS to be qualified. Otherwise a developer can produce clean, snappy code that happens to butt-head's with a sloppy one on the same box (certain versions of Nero come to mind...<g>), and be unjustly seen as 'the culprit'.
As for end-quality, 1.1.1 seems 'smoother' during handling LotR...<I've not had time to compare results>.
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definitely seen major improvements in the video quality compared with 1.0.2 - as comparison I ripped and compressed Lord of the Rings - the Fellowship (just the film, no extras).

I wasn't overly impressed with 1.0.2. but 1.1.1 is a sight better.... worth buying the software for
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Now if doing a clean install and not having anything on your computer makes the program work for everyone that is a program flaw. DVD2one should work with any setup, it is not acceptable to any programer to have a program that doesnt work if misc programs/drivers are installed on a persons OS. After all, this is just a program, and unless you are going to dedicate your machine to just dvd2one it needs to be addressed and fixxed.

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Well--Yes...and no. That argument just HAS to be qualified. Otherwise a developer can produce clean, snappy code that happens to butt-head's with a sloppy one on the same box (certain versions of Nero come to mind...), and be unjustly seen as 'the culprit'.
As for end-quality, 1.1.1 seems 'smoother' during handling LotR....
To loggy:

Agreed!

To EpyxZ:

If you read my post, my "clean" install wasn't barebones... I have Office XP on it as well as PhotoShop 7.0... I use this machine all the time for image editing, general stuff, email, etc. There are other minor programs on there not worth mentioning, but otherwise a relatively clean machine my most standards and DVD2One works fine.

If you install every little gadget you find on the Internet on your machine, have a bunch of peripherals with their own drivers and add-on software, etc. I'd be surprised if you don't run into some problems even without DVD2One...

As for everyone writing tight code that works with every other piece of code in existence out there, that's an ideal that will NEVER be achieved.
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