DVD2One seems slow? - Club CDFreaks

fraparty · 18-08-2003

Hi,

I'm using DVD2One v1.2.3 on an Athlon 1800XP w. 256MB RAM and a Pioneer DVR-106 all on Win98SE.

I used DVDShrink to decrypt a full disk DVD (no compression) to my HDD - Total ~6.4Gig.
Then used DVD2One to compress to a DVD-R, placing all files on my HDD.

This process took 60 to 80 mins! The website says it should only take a max of 30mins?

Is this normal or is something not set right?

p.s. I used variable compression.

jackyl · 18-08-2003

thats not normal...i use a 1.3 ghz AMD Duron machine and it compresses a 6 gig movie in 15 minutes..... are you running any other programs while you are using dvd2one????that would cause it to be slower....

fraparty · 18-08-2003

Yeah, that's what's frustrating.

I've got Norton Antivirus running in the system tray, but usually disable that before doing this sort of thing.

My HDD is 40Gig, with 30Gig free space........

Can it be because of Win98?

Thanks in advance

Phil Thomas · 18-08-2003

I'm a little puzzled as to why you are using DVDShrink and Dvd2one ?

You only need to use one or the other. If you choose Dvd2one, you will need DVD Decrypter (freeware) to rip the files to your hard drive, then Dvd2one to compress .... that's it.

DvdShrink will rip & compress.

fraparty · 19-08-2003

I prefer the GUI of DVDShrink to DVDecryptor. I can preview titles etc and it's easier to pick and choose what you want whereas with decryptor it's a little "cryptic" (pardon the pun)

I don't want to compress using decryptor because the options usually either set the file size just over a DVD-R or just under. So i bought DVD2One (plus i think the quality's a lil better).

With the speed/time issues........my HDD wasn't set to DMA

DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry, it's just one of those things that you assume wouldn't need checking..........

Blade107 · 19-08-2003

Hi fraparti,

Could you explain how to set DMA for the HDD?

I'm also having probs with timing. Running XPPro- AMD1800XP.

Appreciated.

fraparty · 20-08-2003

Hi Blade,

I would have assumed for XP that this would be set automatically.
I've just checked on an XP machine and can't see where this can be changed.

On Win98 i chose:
Start --> Settings --> Control Panel
Doulbe click on System, go to Device Manager and view the properties of the HDD or CD/DVDROM.
In there is a checkbox for DMA, put a tick in it and voila!

I have checked the Help File for Win2000/XP and it says:

"If you install a Plug and Play Device Windows will automatically configure the DMA.......if the device is not Plug and Play you will need to refer to the devices manual to change settings"

Phil Thomas · 20-08-2003

In XP ....

Start/Control Panel/System/Device Manager/IDE ATI-ATAPI Controllers ... right click on the IDE Channel that's applicable ........ select properties/Advanced Settings ..... this should be set to DMA if available.

You will need to reboot for any changes to take effect.

loggy · 20-08-2003

Fraparty...
Part of your speed-issue (based on your description) is sending the output from D2O-processing to the same HD that you ripped to (tends to clog the channel with 'in's/out's'). Use of a separate channel/drive would speed things by 20% or so. Better would be to use DVDRegFree or a newly-98-compatable AnyDvd to eliminate the ripping process altogether (and allows previews right from the Dvd-rom/burner). That would save a whole-step, _and_ eliminate one-channel concerns.
With a similar rig to your's, I go from insertion to burned copy in less than 25-minutes for movie-only on 'small' releases (with Copy2Dvd ticked), and that allows for manual-titling and refilling my coffee!

Blade107 · 20-08-2003

Thanks alot Guys!

Southpaw · 21-08-2003

Loggy....

Can you point me to this setup of yours???

I currently do the following:

DVDDecrypter - 8 minutes
D2O-Constant - 13 mins
Burn - Newro - 2x - 30 mins

how can I trim this without using DVDShrink??

thx
southpaw

loggy · 21-08-2003

Nothing real 'special' to my setup...
Celly 1800
512 DDR
XP-Pro--dedicated burn-boxen (I do little else with it).
3 opticals, 1 removable HD in caddy, 1 C: on raid-0 channel
My burner is a 105--Pioneer 4x.
I use AnyDvd (eliminates the ripping-step)--RegionFree may do the same...
I slip original in dvd-rom, start D2O, and a movie-only takes from 9-14 minutes, Copy2Dvd kicks in to blank in burner (after manual titling due to my mega-changer liking unique-names for indexing), and burn takes about 16 minutes.
When I ripped to D: with DVDD-3.1.4.0, it took about 6-7 minutes (for highlighted movie-only in File mode), then I processed with D2O to the C: (separate-channel speeds such) for another 8-13 minutes.
AnyDvd eliminates all but 1 minute of the time spent for ripping-stage.

Southpaw · 21-08-2003

so AnyDVD and Copy2DVD are "add ons" that you see in D2O??

Southpaw · 21-08-2003

sorry...I should have read through a bunch of the posts first....
Since all I do is "movie only" mode w/ D2O (except for Episodics), this should work fine... looks like I would save about 10 minutes plus whatever time I lost in interaction with 3 different programs...

I will have to check out the trial of AnyDVD and Copy2DVD tonight and practice with some DVD-RW's...

Is there a guide w/ screenshots somewhere that shows the whole process??

ANyDVD-->DVD2One-->Copy2DVD =

thx
Southpaw

dougwright · 21-08-2003

you don't need 1 really - but here it is.

Assuming you've installed anydvd/dvd2one/copy2dvd

Run D2O as normal, but point the source directly at the dvd D:\VIDEO_TS etc.

Tick the little box that will appear that says burn with copy2dvd - and fill in the disc title/label.

Carry on with D2O as you like.

When D2O is finished, you'll be prompted to put in a blank DVD.

18-08-2003	#1 (permalink)
fraparty New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4	DVD2One seems slow? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hi, I'm using DVD2One v1.2.3 on an Athlon 1800XP w. 256MB RAM and a Pioneer DVR-106 all on Win98SE. I used DVDShrink to decrypt a full disk DVD (no compression) to my HDD - Total ~6.4Gig. Then used DVD2One to compress to a DVD-R, placing all files on my HDD. This process took 60 to 80 mins! The website says it should only take a max of 30mins? Is this normal or is something not set right? p.s. I used variable compression.

18-08-2003	#2 (permalink)
jackyl New on Forum Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 28	thats not normal...i use a 1.3 ghz AMD Duron machine and it compresses a 6 gig movie in 15 minutes..... are you running any other programs while you are using dvd2one????that would cause it to be slower.... __________________ There are no stupid questions,only stupid people!!!!

18-08-2003	#3 (permalink)
fraparty New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4	DVD2One seems slow? Yeah, that's what's frustrating. I've got Norton Antivirus running in the system tray, but usually disable that before doing this sort of thing. My HDD is 40Gig, with 30Gig free space........ Can it be because of Win98? Thanks in advance

18-08-2003	#4 (permalink)
Phil Thomas CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Posts: 339	I'm a little puzzled as to why you are using DVDShrink and Dvd2one ? You only need to use one or the other. If you choose Dvd2one, you will need DVD Decrypter (freeware) to rip the files to your hard drive, then Dvd2one to compress .... that's it. DvdShrink will rip & compress. __________________ AMD Athlon64 3400+ 1GB PC3200 DDR400 Lite-On 16x EIDE DVD-ROM Drive NEC ND-4550A 1.06 DVD±RW

19-08-2003	#5 (permalink)
fraparty New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4	DVD2One is not slow? I prefer the GUI of DVDShrink to DVDecryptor. I can preview titles etc and it's easier to pick and choose what you want whereas with decryptor it's a little "cryptic" (pardon the pun) I don't want to compress using decryptor because the options usually either set the file size just over a DVD-R or just under. So i bought DVD2One (plus i think the quality's a lil better). With the speed/time issues........my HDD wasn't set to DMA DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, it's just one of those things that you assume wouldn't need checking..........

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19-08-2003	#6 (permalink)
Blade107 New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3	Hi fraparti, Could you explain how to set DMA for the HDD? I'm also having probs with timing. Running XPPro- AMD1800XP. Appreciated.

20-08-2003	#7 (permalink)
fraparty New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4	Hi Blade, I would have assumed for XP that this would be set automatically. I've just checked on an XP machine and can't see where this can be changed. On Win98 i chose: Start --> Settings --> Control Panel Doulbe click on System, go to Device Manager and view the properties of the HDD or CD/DVDROM. In there is a checkbox for DMA, put a tick in it and voila! I have checked the Help File for Win2000/XP and it says: "If you install a Plug and Play Device Windows will automatically configure the DMA.......if the device is not Plug and Play you will need to refer to the devices manual to change settings"

20-08-2003	#8 (permalink)
Phil Thomas CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: UK Posts: 339	In XP .... Start/Control Panel/System/Device Manager/IDE ATI-ATAPI Controllers ... right click on the IDE Channel that's applicable ........ select properties/Advanced Settings ..... this should be set to DMA if available. You will need to reboot for any changes to take effect. __________________ AMD Athlon64 3400+ 1GB PC3200 DDR400 Lite-On 16x EIDE DVD-ROM Drive NEC ND-4550A 1.06 DVD±RW Last edited by Phil Thomas; 20-08-2003 at 14:57.

20-08-2003	#9 (permalink)
loggy CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Zambia Posts: 261	Fraparty... Part of your speed-issue (based on your description) is sending the output from D2O-processing to the same HD that you ripped to (tends to clog the channel with 'in's/out's'). Use of a separate channel/drive would speed things by 20% or so. Better would be to use DVDRegFree or a newly-98-compatable AnyDvd to eliminate the ripping process altogether (and allows previews right from the Dvd-rom/burner). That would save a whole-step, _and_ eliminate one-channel concerns. With a similar rig to your's, I go from insertion to burned copy in less than 25-minutes for movie-only on 'small' releases (with Copy2Dvd ticked), and that allows for manual-titling and refilling my coffee! Last edited by loggy; 20-08-2003 at 17:19.

20-08-2003	#10 (permalink)
Blade107 New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3	Thanks alot Guys!

21-08-2003	#11 (permalink)
Southpaw CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 66	Loggy.... Can you point me to this setup of yours??? I currently do the following: DVDDecrypter - 8 minutes D2O-Constant - 13 mins Burn - Newro - 2x - 30 mins how can I trim this without using DVDShrink?? thx southpaw

21-08-2003	#12 (permalink)
loggy CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Zambia Posts: 261	Nothing real 'special' to my setup... Celly 1800 512 DDR XP-Pro--dedicated burn-boxen (I do little else with it). 3 opticals, 1 removable HD in caddy, 1 C: on raid-0 channel My burner is a 105--Pioneer 4x. I use AnyDvd (eliminates the ripping-step)--RegionFree may do the same... I slip original in dvd-rom, start D2O, and a movie-only takes from 9-14 minutes, Copy2Dvd kicks in to blank in burner (after manual titling due to my mega-changer liking unique-names for indexing), and burn takes about 16 minutes. When I ripped to D: with DVDD-3.1.4.0, it took about 6-7 minutes (for highlighted movie-only in File mode), then I processed with D2O to the C: (separate-channel speeds such) for another 8-13 minutes. AnyDvd eliminates all but 1 minute of the time spent for ripping-stage.

21-08-2003	#13 (permalink)
Southpaw CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 66	so AnyDVD and Copy2DVD are "add ons" that you see in D2O??

21-08-2003	#14 (permalink)
Southpaw CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 66	sorry...I should have read through a bunch of the posts first.... Since all I do is "movie only" mode w/ D2O (except for Episodics), this should work fine... looks like I would save about 10 minutes plus whatever time I lost in interaction with 3 different programs... I will have to check out the trial of AnyDVD and Copy2DVD tonight and practice with some DVD-RW's... Is there a guide w/ screenshots somewhere that shows the whole process?? ANyDVD-->DVD2One-->Copy2DVD = thx Southpaw

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21-08-2003	#15 (permalink)
dougwright New on Forum Join Date: May 2003 Location: Essex, UK Posts: 18	you don't need 1 really - but here it is. Assuming you've installed anydvd/dvd2one/copy2dvd Run D2O as normal, but point the source directly at the dvd D:\VIDEO_TS etc. Tick the little box that will appear that says burn with copy2dvd - and fill in the disc title/label. Carry on with D2O as you like. When D2O is finished, you'll be prompted to put in a blank DVD.