hi, everyone that has an idea for future versions of this already great software plase post here so the programmer/s can just come in here and take a look at what the program's users think sould be added, without having to read the whole threads.

my sugestions are as follows:

1. have dvd2one make a VIDEO_TS, and an AUDIO_TS folder in the output selected folder, makes things alot more convinient.

2. if choosing subtitels one sould have th e option to make them play(be on) by default or off. i had a problem with the count of monte cristo when choosing spanish subtitles, when playing the movie they would turn on by themselves.

3. Like someone else said on another post, controle over which audio track is the default that plays when selecting more then one audio track.

i think thats it for now.

my compliments to all the people that worked on bringing us this godly program.

An option to add the menu would be great.

Also but not as important, a feature to downsize the entire disk with menu and all extras.

the most important change must be on the encoded method ...

choose the number of encoding pass or use an external encodind soft (tmpeg, cce ...)

good job

doesnt using "an external encodind soft (tmpeg, cce ...)" seem to defeat the whole purpose of this program as thats where the time is made up by "not" using those programs?


maybe a choice of 2pass encoding but without knowing the inner working of this proggy maybe its already doing that?

Fatty...

I agree, to end up using CCE to encode would kinda defeat the whole idea of the prog really.

Surely speed with the right balance in quality should be the aim, if you end up having to use CCE the speed issue gets thrown straight out of the window and you may as well do your DVD rips the good old way.

Firstly I would like to say a big thankyou to Erwin for yet again coming up with a great tool for the DVD freak community! His remote selector tool revolutionised PC based DVD viewing and it looks like DVD2One is going to do the same for backups (ahem)

My first few attempts with the tool have produced good results with challenging movies that have lots of movement action - only slightly worse quality than with TMPG but hey, 20 minutes vs 12 hours is a compelling offer.

My suggestions for development priorities are as follows (in order of importance) -

1. Bug fixes (obviously!)
2. Depending on limitations of the encoding engine, trade off quality with time a little more to get improved quality in a reasonable time (1 - 2 Hours)
3. Multi PGC functionality - for episode based discs (of which there are many). Take a look at the other forums - this is always a hot topic
4. Full Disk Copy
5. Splitting to 2 discs/combining to 1
6. Sub title processing

Why the order?

Bug fixes - obvious

Quality/Time trade off - using the tool becomes a no-brainer for all uses

Multi PGC's - As I said, majority of users want to process episode based discs

Full disc copy - Lower priority because most users will only be keeping one language / sub title and most players allow you to select these via the players menu system anyway - why use up valuable space? Also, the majority of special features are crap and not worth keeping

Disk splitting/combining - 1 to 2 disc copy can already be done with IfoEdit and (if you were lucky enough to get a copy DVDSplit) - hail Derrow - we miss you!. There are not many dual sided originals that I have come across so low priority

Subtitle processing - As long as you can get the original colours and size these are normally fine - low priority in comparison to the above.

What do others think?

I agree with you about most 'bonus material' being make-weight junk. However, I would welcome an option that produced a disc as now, but added the chapter menu.

Sometimes, with favourite DVDs, you might want to jump straight to a particular scene, rather than skipping sequentially through all the intermediate chapter points.

The VIDEO_TS.VOB, which holds the chapter menu, is not usually very big, so I don't think it would have a detrimental impact on quality.

I'm not sure about all these requests for 'more quality', thereby implying less speed. I think that's getting away from the magic of this program. What's more, with all the DVDs I've viewed, using a high quality Sony widescreen digital TV, I wouldn't have liked my life to have depended on distinguishing the copy from the original. It's that good!

-Pete

Ho all!

Initially, I wanted to send this as an email to Erwin, but since there's this forum now...
I'd like to quickly summerize the feature requests we arrived at in a little brain storming we had in another forum (thread http://www.movie2digital.de/forum/th...adid=3503&sid= Achtung! It's German


Here it goes:

1. An option to specify a target size. This makes it possible to reserve some space for extras/menus etc.

2. The possibility to exclude cells/chapters. Thus you could easily strip off the credits at the end to save space/bitrate.

3. Could you display the bitrate of the audio streams (192, 384, 448 kbits) in the list of the available audio tracks? That's useful information.

4. It'd be nice to be able to change the displayed language of a stream. There are DVDs around (Kate&Leopold e.g.) where for example the subtitle for the commentary track was displayed as "German" when in fact it is "English". These little mistakes in the original DVD could be easily corrected.

5. An option to have a "scanning pass" before the transcoding to determine a sensible bitrate distribution. There's an excellent review of DVD2one by the famous mb1 at http://www.dvd-svcd-hilfe.de/forum/m...ne/dvd2one.htm (Again German, but there are some meaningful screenshots and it may be worthwhile to try a translation service like babelfish for the text). He found out that the bitrate distribution looks quite chaotic...
I don't know what would be the best approach to it during the "scanning pass". Maybe analyse the original's bitrate distribution and just model the lower bitrate after it...
Later versions could provide an editor (like the "Bit Allocation" of CCE) where you could manually manipulate the bitrate distribution gained from the "scanning pass".

6. An option to use different matrices as it is done today with TMPEG and CinemaCraftEncoder as plug-ins.

7. Since DVD2one is so blazingly fast, how about a preview function? Let the user choose the video, audio and subtitles he wants. Then let him enter the timecode from where he wants his 1-minute preview, transcode and maybe automatically open the preview file in the default player.
This feature is even more useful when you have different matrices to choose from, but even when deciding if to include another audio stream or not a preview will be extremely nice!

8. Back up a DVD with any extras and menus you want to 1 or 2 DVD-R.

9. Compress a film spanning 2 DVDs onto 1 DVD-R.


I'd be thrilled if anyone of the DVD2One Team could quickly comment on every suggestion.
Thanks very much!

[Edited for typos]

I was under the impression that this is a compressed domain transcoder? If so, the idea of multi-pass makes little sense.

Yep!

A 2-PASS (oer even more?) transcoding would be the most important thing to do imho. Great list, btw.

I agree that keeping the root menu is sometimes useful for chapter selection, although as I said, most players menu systems let you do this without the need for the DVD menu (what player do you have?).

The second point is that some menu vts's are ridiculously big and complex (eg Star Wars AOTC - 650MB! and just reduce the vital space on the disc for premium quality movie (which after all is the most important part is it not!). For the small ones (100MB or so) then no problem.

I still think that multi PGC processing takes priority as the tool currently does not support it and most users want this feature for episode based DVDs

You might be right about the quality / time tradeoff. I struggle to see the difference too! Its probably a lot of work to change the compression engine.


Note to Erwin / developers - why not do a quick pole on user development priorities on the forum?

Concerning additional passes and time/quality considerations, I definately think it should be an option, i.e. check if a single-pass transcoding achives the desired quality (-> preview) and Just Do It(tm) if it's OK.

Apparently, DVD2One keeps the information of the motion vectors of the original DVD and only assigns a lower bitrate to compress everything stronger. The question is: how is this new bitrate assigned?
Assuming that the original DVD was mastered with quality software (and operators!) you can count on a very accurate evaluation of the needed bitrate in every scene. That's why the idea to analyse the bitrate distribution and take that as basis for the new one doesn't sound too bad. And it's only one pass that shouldn't take too much time.

OTOH, what about badly mastered DVDs or some that, doG forbid, uses CBR, i.e. a constant bitrate?

Ideas?

Hello to all,

Erwin a feature I hope to see in the future:

- Join & re-size a double sided DVD (example: Star Ship Troopers (pal))

And a question:

- Does DVD2One uses Integer or Floating Piont calculations to compress the DVD ?
If it uses Integer calculation, would it then not be cool to add a option to use Floating Piont calculations ?
I know this will increase the calculation time, but does it also improves the video quality ?
If DVD2One already uses Floating Point calculations then see this question as not asked !
- And maybe if usefull like some other members asked 2/3 or 4 pass VBR, but also here the question if it will improve.
- Reduce the audio bitrate to 192 kbs (some are even over 400 and I wonder if this is really necessary).

Both last options will incease the calculation time, with how much I don't know.
But with faster processors every (let's say half year) it should be going faster !
Give everyone all my best,

Lenco

I agree with you 100%. What I think would really help DVD2ONE is if it integrates some spatial and temporal filters, and depending on the DVD material it's trying to encode, it would apply a level of filtering to correct for poor input material. Some DVDs are poorly authored, and with these methods, the transcoding would be somewhat cleaned a little.

-kwag
http://www.kvcd.net
KVCD Templates and Advanced Video Conversion

We really apriciate your input, we really do.
But i'am afraid there are some requests that are almost impossible to forffill due to the nature of our software.

Please read the FAQ about this


(unsticky'd this thread)

how about having dvd2one create an .IMG file after it's done.

then, just import the IMG file into your burning software and you're set.

this may solve some of the burner problems people are posting.

IT SHOULD LET YOU SELECT MOERE TITLES , LIKE A SIX EPISODE SERIES ON DVD!!

It sounds like some of you guys want the world out of this software. There are other programs like Ifoedit to take care of alot of this extra stuff. Also, this is a $44.00 item, not Ifoedit, TMPGenc, and CCE all rolled into one.

erzug,

don't recall the authors of dvd2one asking us NOT to offer suggestions. do you?

i am pleased as punch with what i got......no more ifoedit, cce, maestro....just dvd2one.

did you have something constructive to add to this thread?

It does sound like many of the requests fall into a much broader category than the software was intended. It was meant to keep things simple. Do you want it to grow to maybe 100k in size?
Just kidding, of course.

hehe....good one!

While I understand that many feature requests are not feasible, redundant or covered in the FAQ, I'd really have hoped to hear your thoughts concerning the outlined measures to improve picture quality.

Don't get me wrong, I love DVD2One! I'd just like to know if it will remain a tool for copying your standard length film (which is perfectly OK by me!) or if you plan to further improve quality.

Another suggestion to the author: (sorry I was tell same idea on a separate post)

when users select different audio subst streams, remap this in order to not make gaps. this gaps causes problems in some standalone players.

p.e:
0x80 Portuguese
0x81 German
0x82 English

and the user select only German and english, could be usefull remap German to 0x80 and English to 0x81. this is much more compatible.

Same with subst.

Good chance. Support the tool

Another suggestion more:

Posibility to choice a subst that will be on when movie start.

PE:
the small subst stream that appears when somebody speak a different language that the selected.

ok i understand that not all requestable fetures can be implimented into the software, but there is still some stuff that can be. im sure that 2 pass whatever would be very dificult if not impossible for version 1.x (mabye later along the road version 2.o or something) but my expirience as a probrammer is that there is always room for improvement in any software. Wether the emprovement is a little cusmetic tuchup or bug fix, new option button, new interface. since we have only seen version 1.0 there is a great deal of potential left for this program to improve. Dont get me wrong i dont want this program to do everyting, its grat enuff as it is! but the programer sould listen to the "buyers" and give them everthing he can, even if it means going into version 2.0 and charge them over again, at the same time he gets to make more $ for his work.