2 movies on one DVDR - Club CDFreaks

dvdmanDAVE · 16-04-2003

Hi all,

Here's my question, and please - if you wanna flame me, don't.
Either post a link or an answer. TIA

Quality DVDR's are high cost, as are DVD movies,
I want to try and put 2 movies on one DVDR.

I have already decrypted and dvd2one'ed the movies,
how can I further "process" these to have a simple
menu (select 1st or 2nd movie) with possibly, while playing
either movie, simple chapter advance?

Is this at all possible?

(edited by dvdmanDAVE, see this:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....807#post423807
or, you can continue to read further in the thread.)

TIA for "intelligent" responses...

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olanordmann · 16-04-2003

I'm looking for a solution here too.......

muralin · 16-04-2003

i do it all the time but w/o menu. i am sure u can do it with the menu but i have not had the time to learn. chkout http://mpucoder.kewlhair.com/Derrow/joinclip.html. this is the best guide for joining vobs/movies/clips.

it will cost u US$5 to get a login. believe me, its worth every penny. u can learn so much from the guides.

*damiandimitri* · 16-04-2003

it can be done with an authoring tool like ifoedit(?? not sure), sonic scenarist or dvdmaestro

olanordmann · 16-04-2003

Having a menu is something I would like... I've tried to join VOB's with IfoEdit and it worked, BUT I cannot choose my 2nd movie... I only hav a loads of chapters....

BUT what I really want is to have a menu, so I can choose between the two movies.... Anyone who can help us with this?? Including how-to's...

Regards Ola

*damiandimitri* · 16-04-2003

i know one...post it tomorrow

ds47uk · 17-04-2003

Would it not be possible to create a generic set of _0 menu vob files which always expect movie1 to be vobid 1 and movie2 to be vobid 2.

Then by setting the sets of vobs to these ids and running getvts sectors in ifoedit, would this not then work?

I don't know, and I certainly don't know how to create the generic menu, but some genius out there surely will .....

*damiandimitri* · 17-04-2003

i know only how i can make shitty (because i s*ck at this lol) in dvdmaestro

tonight i will look for the guide..no i will do it right now

URL removed as its a warez site, please refer to our rules - CM

ds47uk · 17-04-2003

Yeh, but this involves demuxing back to m2v and ac3. What dvdmanDAVE asks (I think) was how you could combine two DVD2ONE'd VOB sets (maybe compressed to 2 GB each) onto one DVD-R, with a simple A or B menu.

While it is possible with a major authoring tool, I feel that there must be a simple way to create a bog-standard menu system into which you can just "plug in" two VOB sets.

Anyone?????

*damiandimitri* · 17-04-2003

i c..
i have to look for that too...i didn';t work with dvd2one that much

olanordmann · 17-04-2003

I think ds47uk is right... What dvdmanDAVE ask is the same as me (I hope... haven't heard from him yet...). I make 2 movies; 2Gb each... both named VTS_01_1.VOB, VTS_01_2.VOB in two different directories... How can we make a simple menu and start these...

I'm pretty new at this so please be sepcific...

Thanx

Ola

dvdmanDAVE · 18-04-2003

Okay...

As there seems to be a wee bit of confusion here,
I have dvd2one'ed into separate directories, 2 movies.

My goal, as it were, is to take the two VOB sets...

VTS_01_1.VOB ---- 1st movie
VTS_02_1.VOB ---- 2nd movie

and a simple menu to choose either one, with chapter advance
for both.

All this without remuxing, etc... I've done all the processing
with DVD2One, just wanna backup two movies to one DVDR...

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dvdmanDAVE · 18-04-2003

If we can get THIS right, it might be what a lot of folks are looking for?

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*damiandimitri* · 18-04-2003

hmm....that is why i gave the tutorial to dvdmaestro...

but it can be done with sonic scenarist also

just 2 names on the screen....click it...the named movie will run.....i did that with dvdmaestro......and it took me 1 week the first time...then 10 minutes

dpic · 18-04-2003

Quote:

...if you wanna flame me, don't. Either post a link or an answer. TIA...TIA for "intelligent" responses...

I'll pass...

dvr105 · 18-04-2003

There is no simple oneclick "do it all for me without me having to think" sollution !!

Creating a simple menu with 2 buttons linking to each titleset WILL require some kind of reauthoring using an authoringtool.

This in itself is not to difficult, but it does require the right authoringtool and some work from you.

I could describe how - but I wont since apparently you only want a "do it all for me without me having to think" sollution.

megahurts · 19-04-2003

I've done several 2 movies to 1 DVDR with DVD2One (movie only) using this method.

Transcode the first movie to folder1 and the second movie to folder2. In folder2, delete the VIDEO_TS files then rename remaining files to VTS_02_X.XXX. Move all the files to folder1. Now you have a folder with 2 movies but you have to modify the VIDEO_TS.IFO file to recognise the second movie.

1. Open VIDEO_TS.IFO with IFOedit.

2. Select VMG_VTS_ATRT 'Number of Video Title Sets' = 2

3. Select VMG_PTT-SRPT 'Number of Title play Maps' = 2

4. Refresh the page and enter the following for Title_2:
Title playback type = 20
Number of angles = 1
Number of chapters = XX
Title set number (VTS#) = 2
Title set Title-number (VTS_TTN) = 1

5. Select VMG_VTS_ATRT and enter the following:
VTS_2: Number of audio streems in Title (VTSTT_VOBS) = # of audio tracks
VTS_2: Number of sub-picture streams in Title (VTSTT_VOBS) = # of subtitles

6. Select the VMG Overview page and specify the audio tracks, and subtitles if any.

7. Click 'Save' then 'Get VTS sectors'.

The DVD will start with the first title. To select the second title, use the player remote.

Hope this helps.

ds47uk · 19-04-2003

@megahurts

Thanks for that info. It's certainly better than what I was doing, and I'll give it a go!

dvdmanDAVE · 19-04-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by megahurts
I've done several 2 movies to 1 DVDR with DVD2One (movie only) using this method.

The DVD will start with the first title. To select the second title, use the player remote.

Hope this helps.

Actually this is very nearly what I hoped to get!
Thanks!

Now if I can get that little menu at the start, to choose
movie one, or two - I'd be set.

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jwo62 · 20-04-2003

if you have either MyDvd or ULead video studio you could create a menu. then you could edit it with ifoedit as needed. i have never tried this,its just a theory. i hope this helps. if you do have success,please post back.

mrhua · 23-04-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by dvr105
There is no simple oneclick "do it all for me without me having to think" sollution !!

Creating a simple menu with 2 buttons linking to each titleset WILL require some kind of reauthoring using an authoringtool.

This in itself is not to difficult, but it does require the right authoringtool and some work from you.

I could describe how - but I wont since apparently you only want a "do it all for me without me having to think" sollution.

Hello. Have you used an authoring tool that will take VOB sets? That would be pretty easy to make a menu, then. Every authoring tool I've seen only takes mpeg2 files in the form of MPG or MV2 or something like that.

Any hints?

digitalmaniac · 23-04-2003

ULEAD DVD Movie Factory allows you to import VOB sets. I am not positive, but I believe NeoDVD does also.

mrhua · 23-04-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by digitalmaniac
ULEAD DVD Movie Factory allows you to import VOB sets. I am not positive, but I believe NeoDVD does also.

ULEAD DVD Movie Factory is the one that I have, and I checked it last night. It its "authoring" mode it doesn't support the importing of VOB files. Can anyone confirm if NeoDVD does?

Thx

*damiandimitri* · 23-04-2003

i don't think neodvd will import vob files.....
i have the programm..but not installed right now

have to look that up

the website doesn't mention vob files

but this paper says it can import non-encrypted vobs
http://www.pcplus.co.uk/media/pcplus...0authoring.pdf

chumboy61 · 23-04-2003

i believe Vegas Video allows for vob import.

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dvdmanDAVE CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: dvdmanDAVE land Posts: 33	2 movies on one DVDR <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hi all, Here's my question, and please - if you wanna flame me, don't. Either post a link or an answer. TIA Quality DVDR's are high cost, as are DVD movies, I want to try and put 2 movies on one DVDR. I have already decrypted and dvd2one'ed the movies, how can I further "process" these to have a simple menu (select 1st or 2nd movie) with possibly, while playing either movie, simple chapter advance? Is this at all possible? (edited by dvdmanDAVE, see this: http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....807#post423807 or, you can continue to read further in the thread.) TIA for "intelligent" responses... dvdmanDAVE Fight disease! Join the GRID! Last edited by dvdmanDAVE; 23-05-2003 at 06:06.

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olanordmann New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5	Anyone??? I'm looking for a solution here too.......

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muralin CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 54	i do it all the time but w/o menu. i am sure u can do it with the menu but i have not had the time to learn. chkout http://mpucoder.kewlhair.com/Derrow/joinclip.html. this is the best guide for joining vobs/movies/clips. it will cost u US$5 to get a login. believe me, its worth every penny. u can learn so much from the guides. __________________ Murali

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olanordmann New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5	More info... Having a menu is something I would like... I've tried to join VOB's with IfoEdit and it worked, BUT I cannot choose my 2nd movie... I only hav a loads of chapters.... BUT what I really want is to have a menu, so I can choose between the two movies.... Anyone who can help us with this?? Including how-to's... Regards Ola

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damiandimitri CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: netherlands Posts: 3,535	it can be done with an authoring tool like ifoedit(?? not sure), sonic scenarist or dvdmaestro

16-04-2003	#6 (permalink)
damiandimitri CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: netherlands Posts: 3,535	i know one...post it tomorrow

17-04-2003	#7 (permalink)
ds47uk New on Forum Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Durham, England Posts: 7	Would it not be possible to create a generic set of _0 menu vob files which always expect movie1 to be vobid 1 and movie2 to be vobid 2. Then by setting the sets of vobs to these ids and running getvts sectors in ifoedit, would this not then work? I don't know, and I certainly don't know how to create the generic menu, but some genius out there surely will .....

17-04-2003	#9 (permalink)
ds47uk New on Forum Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Durham, England Posts: 7	Yeh, but this involves demuxing back to m2v and ac3. What dvdmanDAVE asks (I think) was how you could combine two DVD2ONE'd VOB sets (maybe compressed to 2 GB each) onto one DVD-R, with a simple A or B menu. While it is possible with a major authoring tool, I feel that there must be a simple way to create a bog-standard menu system into which you can just "plug in" two VOB sets. Anyone?????

17-04-2003	#10 (permalink)
damiandimitri CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: netherlands Posts: 3,535	i c.. i have to look for that too...i didn';t work with dvd2one that much

17-04-2003	#11 (permalink)
olanordmann New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 5	I think ds47uk is right... What dvdmanDAVE ask is the same as me (I hope... haven't heard from him yet...). I make 2 movies; 2Gb each... both named VTS_01_1.VOB, VTS_01_2.VOB in two different directories... How can we make a simple menu and start these... I'm pretty new at this so please be sepcific... Thanx Ola

18-04-2003	#12 (permalink)
dvdmanDAVE CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: dvdmanDAVE land Posts: 33	2 movies on one DVDR Okay... As there seems to be a wee bit of confusion here, I have dvd2one'ed into separate directories, 2 movies. My goal, as it were, is to take the two VOB sets... VTS_01_1.VOB ---- 1st movie VTS_02_1.VOB ---- 2nd movie and a simple menu to choose either one, with chapter advance for both. All this without remuxing, etc... I've done all the processing with DVD2One, just wanna backup two movies to one DVDR... dvdmanDAVE Fight disease! Join the GRID! Last edited by dvdmanDAVE; 24-04-2003 at 03:43.

18-04-2003	#13 (permalink)
dvdmanDAVE CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: dvdmanDAVE land Posts: 33	Thanks for the help.... If we can get THIS right, it might be what a lot of folks are looking for? dvdmanDAVE Fight disease! Join the GRID! Last edited by dvdmanDAVE; 24-04-2003 at 03:42.

18-04-2003	#14 (permalink)
damiandimitri CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: netherlands Posts: 3,535	hmm....that is why i gave the tutorial to dvdmaestro... but it can be done with sonic scenarist also just 2 names on the screen....click it...the named movie will run.....i did that with dvdmaestro......and it took me 1 week the first time...then 10 minutes

18-04-2003	#16 (permalink)
dvr105 CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 90	There is no simple oneclick "do it all for me without me having to think" sollution !! Creating a simple menu with 2 buttons linking to each titleset WILL require some kind of reauthoring using an authoringtool. This in itself is not to difficult, but it does require the right authoringtool and some work from you. I could describe how - but I wont since apparently you only want a "do it all for me without me having to think" sollution.

19-04-2003	#17 (permalink)
megahurts New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California USA Posts: 2	I've done several 2 movies to 1 DVDR with DVD2One (movie only) using this method. Transcode the first movie to folder1 and the second movie to folder2. In folder2, delete the VIDEO_TS files then rename remaining files to VTS_02_X.XXX. Move all the files to folder1. Now you have a folder with 2 movies but you have to modify the VIDEO_TS.IFO file to recognise the second movie. 1. Open VIDEO_TS.IFO with IFOedit. 2. Select VMG_VTS_ATRT 'Number of Video Title Sets' = 2 3. Select VMG_PTT-SRPT 'Number of Title play Maps' = 2 4. Refresh the page and enter the following for Title_2: Title playback type = 20 Number of angles = 1 Number of chapters = XX Title set number (VTS#) = 2 Title set Title-number (VTS_TTN) = 1 5. Select VMG_VTS_ATRT and enter the following: VTS_2: Number of audio streems in Title (VTSTT_VOBS) = # of audio tracks VTS_2: Number of sub-picture streams in Title (VTSTT_VOBS) = # of subtitles 6. Select the VMG Overview page and specify the audio tracks, and subtitles if any. 7. Click 'Save' then 'Get VTS sectors'. The DVD will start with the first title. To select the second title, use the player remote. Hope this helps.

19-04-2003	#18 (permalink)
ds47uk New on Forum Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Durham, England Posts: 7	@megahurts Thanks for that info. It's certainly better than what I was doing, and I'll give it a go!

20-04-2003	#20 (permalink)
jwo62 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blue State Posts: 128	if you have either MyDvd or ULead video studio you could create a menu. then you could edit it with ifoedit as needed. i have never tried this,its just a theory. i hope this helps. if you do have success,please post back.

23-04-2003	#22 (permalink)
digitalmaniac New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 13	ULEAD DVD Movie Factory allows you to import VOB sets. I am not positive, but I believe NeoDVD does also.

23-04-2003	#24 (permalink)
damiandimitri CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: netherlands Posts: 3,535	i don't think neodvd will import vob files..... i have the programm..but not installed right now have to look that up the website doesn't mention vob files but this paper says it can import non-encrypted vobs http://www.pcplus.co.uk/media/pcplus...0authoring.pdf

23-04-2003	#25 (permalink)
chumboy61 CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 39	i believe Vegas Video allows for vob import.

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