Hi guys,

I would like to know if will be possible to convert in 4:3 format a movie being originally 16:9 in a future DVD2One versions,

I dont like those widescreen movies....

I'm also WAITING for a new version.... hehe

Thanks
Regards

I doubt it

If you dont like to watch 16:9 movies the simple sollution is to just set your dvd-player to play 4:3 under settings - then all movies will be played this way. You dont need to convert the backup.

It won't happen, because it would mean we have to crop the image and complete RE-ENCODE the entire picture.

I suggest you should reconsider your thoughts. Widescreen is defenetely a better format. More like the human vision-field than 4:3. It's just a matter of time before all tv-programs is in 16:9.

Isn't this option changable with a TAG at the beginning of the video which tells the player what format the DVD is in? That is why you can quickly change the format with your DVD player, TV or software DVD player just as easy without it needing to be re-encoded? I was going to ask the same question. Please explain

it's more then just a 'tag' it means the stream is encoded for dualformat .

So changing only that tag wil result in a weird aspected movie.

Oh, yes, I see what you mean now, but for the people that don't mind a little "egg heading" in their movie could you add that option? I don't mind watching a movie with the aspect ratio a little off than watching thoes really wide screen movies just seems too squashed.
Thanks

if you incist on doing that, try to do it with a product like ifoedit. But i can asure you the result is NOT what you think it will be.

It will not magicly zoom the content to 4:3, just squashes the bars different.

Ok, I'm just think about when using DVD2SVCD in which you can load a 16:9 movie and then you can just change the aspect ratio to 4:3 and have it a little streatched if you want. Would be a good feature for some I think.

I still dont se what would be the point ?

Every dvd-player has the ability in setup to choose between playback in 16x9, 4x3 or automatic. If anyone doesnt like 16x9 they simply just set their dvd-player to allways play 4x3 and it will then allways scale perfectly to 4x3 without ruining the movie at all. Then later if you get a bigger 16x9 tv - you still have the original dvd and the option to set the dvd-player back to automatic or 16x9.

Why on earth would anyone want to have to ruin their dvd everytime when all they have to do is change one litle setting one time on their dvd-player to solve the "problem"

Sometimes I simply cannot understand the strange things that are going on in peoples heads.

some movies I don't mind watching "ruined" (streatched vertically) as you put it, looks full'er on the screen. To many un-nessesary steps needed fooling around with my DVD player to change the ratio from time to time. So this wouldn't be an option you would use then? hehe

hehe - no this would definately not be an option I would use

Changing the aspectratio on your dvd-player is a matter of 3 clicks on the remote sitting in your couch - and its changed untill you deside to change it back again - it only takes about 4 seconds to do and you have not made any changes to your actual movie which means it is easily undone when in the future you change your mind. Changing it in the compressionprocess would mean 1: more timeconsumingdescisions to make in the compressionprocess 2: A much more timeconsuming compressionperiod 3: "ruining" of the movie in a way you cannot easily/quickly undo.

No matter how I try to look at it - I really sincerly dont see any advantages in doing it this way instead of simply pressing 3 buttons on your remote - and I cannot in my wildest imagination see why anyone would want this. Except perhaps people who have no knowledge on how their player works and therefore allways have to make life as difficult for themselves as possible

Ok, so if I change it on my player will it cut the sides off? or just streatch it vertically?

it will cut off the sides - thereby scaling correctly avoiding any eggshaping of heads and other circular objects

Yeh, see, I don't want it to cut off the sides.

Rene (wisely) already said this wasn't going to happen, so just drop it. It's a bad idea anyways, and you must be the only person in the world who actually wants to turn widescreen movies (the way they should be watched, as they were filmed) into squeezed fullscreen format. Just get over it and deal with widescreen. You'll be happy you did when your next TV is in the 16x9 ratio. You can always go find yourself fullscreen versions of most movies, where the sides have been clipped off, or just do as dvr105 says and put your dvd player in 4x3 mode and clip them yourself, all without forcing it upon yourself. But back to the topic at hand, Erwin, Rene et al are not in the business of making custom software for the single person in the world who wants to transform 16x9 content into squeezed 4x3 content.

I was in line at the video store awhile back when a woman came up to me with two copies of the same movie in her hand and asked me if I knew what the difference between them was (VHS by the way). I showed her on the box where it listed one as Fullscreen and the other as Widescreen. She the asked what that meant, so I explained that on a regular TV fullscreen would fill her set, but widescreen was the full original picture from the movie and would have black bars on the top and bottem. Her answer was "Wow, I'm glad I asked. Who would ever want to watch a movie with those black bars?"

So, there are people who want movies that way. Not many I hope. It took me a couple of years and a direct compare between versions of Gladiator to convince my father that widescreen was the way to go. My mother still prefers a full screen film.

=) *sigh*

Did you also explain to her that the fullscreen version was missing a bunch of the image, as the sides were clipped off to make them fit? Also, I doubt she would have liked it if the fullscreen one was just the widescreen squeezed down to fit in a 4x3 format, with a WRONG aspect ratio. Since we're talking about DVDs here, she could have gotten a widescreen version and set her dvd player to 4x3 aspect ratio, and had pretty much the same effect as getting the fullscreen version. Most people in their right minds don't like having their widescreen movies permanently archived in a squeezed down 4x3 ratio, with everything compressed horizontally. I think that woman is an idiot for prefering a movie with clipped sides to having it in its original size, with the entire image visible, but that's just me. Also, renting is one thing, but to archive in fullscreen, when TVs are moving to 16x9 format is very short-sighted.

Easy Weasel, I was just pointing out that some people still want movies that way. I'm on your side. But some people have only ever experienced movies in 3/4 pan and scan, and feel cheated when watching widescreen. Some people have very small TVs and letterboxing becomes unwatchable...

Also, she was holding VHS movies - not DVDs.

As far as DVD2ONE goes there is no need for any sort of crop support.

I was just enjoying a bit of a giggle over the whole thing, the fact that people (like my mother for one who very much understands the difference) prefer to see movies on a 3/4 TV in pan and scan.

Sorry if I sounded a little harsh, and I should probably just let this thread die, but it's just that this has got to be the worst feature request for DVD2One I've ever seen, and I'm glad Rene said it's not gonna happen. To divert programming resources from valid features to this would be ludicrous.
I just find it hard to believe that people prefer fullscreen to wide, but I guess on a small TV, it's understanable to be disappointed with the (apparently) smaller image size; but to me, content is king, and clipping the sides off a movie and tossing them in the edit bin (so to speak) is never acceptable. Furthermore, to actually archive a widescreen movie in a fullscreen display ratio, with all the distortion it entails is even more incomprehensible, especially with 4x3 TVs being phased out in defference to the 16x9 format. OK, I'm now done with this thread, and will let it disappear into oblivion...

The solution to this wierd request is simply to set the DVD-player to 16:9 making it think your TV is 16:9 and therefore fill the screen with th movie (because the movie is encoded in 16:9 format). When played back on a 4:3 TV the image will still fill the screen making everything looked squashed together horizontally. But this is what you wanted, right?

It really hurts giving you this tip... it's just wrong to watch movies that way!

the changing of the player doesnt make a damb bit of difference

I don't believe I'm posting here because this is the weirdest thread I've ever read in 4 years of backing-up.

Do you like TV? Then watch TV shows, they're square!

Do you like movies? Movies are Widescreen! They are not TV.

Which one are you? Just Decide and then stop trying to figure a way to butcher an art form. Good God!

Just noticed, this thread started before the Civil War. I just posted to ghosts.

Got to find that portal and try an get back to where I came from ... come'on Toto, we just can't stay in a place where they watch square movies ...