AML DVD+R - Club CDFreaks

Assass1N · 22-04-2004

Lite-ON 851S GS0C
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID AML 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Hey gotta paste here my tests with Esperazna DVD+R 4x burned

Assass1N · 22-04-2004

Lite-On 851S
Media Information
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID AML 001
Media Product Revision Number 00h
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Data area starting sector 30000h
Linear Density 0.267um/bit
Track Density 0.74um/track
Number of Layers 1

Same Esperanza DVD+R but burned at 2.4x

papas · 04-09-2004

NEC 2500A, FW 1.07 v2 beta5, 4.32GB movie.

Code:

Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:AML-001-000]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disc Type :              [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID :        [AML]
Manufacturer Name :      [Unknown Manufacturer ID]
Media Type ID :          [001]
Product Revision :       [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4x]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]

Full media code:

Code:

0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 01 41 4d 4c 00 00  00 00 00 30 30 31 00 38   ...AML.....001.8
0020 : 23 54 37 13 02 4a 71 02  90 66 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a   #T7..Jq..f......
0030 : 01 1c 1e 0b 0c 12 12 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................

Sold as Esperanza (slim case), manufactured by AML Techology. Scanned with Lite-on 451S@832S FW VS0B at 4x CLV, PI/PIF sum of 8 ECC.

papas · 04-09-2004

NEC 2500A, FW 1.07 v2 beta5, 4.32GB movie.

Code:

Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD+R:AML-001-000]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Disc Type :              [DVD+R]
Manufacturer ID :        [AML]
Manufacturer Name :      [Unknown Manufacturer ID]
Media Type ID :          [001]
Product Revision :       [Not Specified]
Disc Application Code :  [General Purpose]
Recording Speeds :       [1x , 2.4x , 4x]
Blank Disc Capacity :    [2,295,104 Sectors = 4,482.6MB = 4.38GB (4.70GB)]

Full media code:

Code:

0000 : a1 0f 02 00 00 03 00 00  00 26 05 3f 00 00 00 00   .........&.?....
0010 : 00 00 01 41 4d 4c 00 00  00 00 00 30 30 31 00 38   ...AML.....001.8
0020 : 23 54 37 13 02 4a 71 02  90 66 16 16 0b 0b 0a 0a   #T7..Jq..f......
0030 : 01 1c 1e 0b 0c 12 12 01  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................

Sold as Esperanza (slim case), manufactured by AML Techology. Scanned with Lite-on 451S@832S FW VS0B at 4x CLV, PI/PIF sum of 8 ECC.

bugmenot2 · 31-10-2004

AML001 sold as SKY DVD+R 4X
Burned on: Sony DW-U18A @ Liteon 832S (FW CG3B) at 4X
Burning program: growisofs 5.21 (Linux 2.6.8, Debian sid)

About 4.4GB of data (just left 2MB of free space).

bugmenot · 31-10-2004

AML001 sold as SKY DVD+R 4X
Burned on: Sony DW-U18A @ Liteon 832S (FW CG3B) at 8X (real average speed: 4.91X)
Burning program: growisofs 5.21 (Linux 2.6.8, Debian sid)

About 4.4GB of data (just left 20MB of free space).

gravesg · 11-01-2005

lol i didn't do the whole test thing but i found these in Compusa cheap cheap wonderin if they are any good at all

CanuckGod · 14-01-2005

Depends on your drive... I got about 40 or so e3works branded discs back about the end of 2003, I found the discs still play well over a good year after I burned them on my Liteon 411 (although I burned them at 2.4x rather than 4x, seemed to work with more DVD players). The same discs would probably burn nicely at 4x on my NEC ND-3500 burner (if I had any left I'd test for you) - they're probably better than Princo or AN31 or the really cheap types, but top quality they sure ain't (hence the cheap cheap

).

*seeker010* · 18-03-2005

8x AML-002-00
sold as generic HQ DVD+R....
burned at 6x on SOHW-1673s
scanned at 4x
pretty crappy.

*seeker010* · 18-03-2005

at 8x

Code:

Disc Type                           	DVD+R                
Book Type                           	DVD+R
Manufacturer                        	AML Technology
Media ID                            	AML002
Protection System                   	None
Region                              	1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity                            	4.38 GB
Free Size                           	4.38 GB
Free Blocks                         	2295104
Number of Layers                    	1
Linear Density                      	0.267 um/bit
Track Density                       	0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed                  	4.8x
Maximum Write Speed                 	8.0x
Current Write Speed                 	8.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1	8.0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 2	6.0x CLV

Zilder · 26-03-2005

Sold as Intenso 4x.

Burned 2,4x Benq DW800a.

*seeker010* · 29-03-2005

same media as above, burned 8x as plextor 716A
wow, except for the horrendoous PIE levels, I'm rather impressed....

scoobiedoobie · 20-10-2005

Sold at The Tech Geek (thetechgeek.com) as 8x AML +R, AML 002 media code. Burns fair on some burners, very well on my Benq 1640. Good cheapo media, depending on your burner.

8x on NEC 2500, FW herrie's 1.07v2b5:

2.4x burn on Benq 822 FW B3LC, set to 8x but it burned at 2.4x instead:

8x burn on Benq 1640 FW BSLB:

Transfer rate test of the Benq 1640 burn:

SleepyBum · 30-11-2005

8x AML 002 (000)
Sold as NeXXTech 8x DVD+R 50pk, Made in Hong Kong
Bought at Circuit City on Black Friday
Burned at 8x on BenQ 1640 BSMB
Scaned at 4x

Code:

 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD-ROM
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : n/a
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : n/a
 Disc Status      : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 8C FF 00 00 00 00 - .........%......
0010 - 00 00 00 41 4D 4C 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 32 00 38 - ...AML.....002.8
0020 - 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A - #T7..Nr..c......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................

*chancooluk* · 24-01-2006

Disc type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : AML 002 (000)

Mr. DVD

DVD+R

Written on an LG GSA 4176b (DL12) (up to 2.7gb) and continued the multisession disc with a BenQ 1620 (B7W9) until the end.

Scanned on a BenQ 1620

*JayC30* · 25-01-2006

Also sold as MR DVD (AML 002), burnt and scanned on Philips1628P1 (Q2.2), which means no PIF as it can't be done on this drive. These are from one written at 4x, scanned at 8x. Booktype set to ROM.

*chancooluk* · 25-01-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayC30

Also sold as MR DVD (AML 002), burnt and scanned on Philips1628P1 (Q2.2), which means no PIF as it can't be done on this drive. These are from one written at 4x, scanned at 8x. Booktype set to ROM.

Hey JayC30, Why not cross-flash to a BenQ 1640?

The firmware is updated quicker than phillips and you could also do full quality scans of your discs. Nothing can really be shown from just PIE results.

*JayC30* · 30-01-2006

Quote:

Originally Posted by chancooluk

Hey JayC30, Why not cross-flash to a BenQ 1640?

The firmware is updated quicker than phillips and you could also do full quality scans of your discs. Nothing can really be shown from just PIE results.

Forgot I even posted here. Simple answers are knowledge (I don't understand how to do it, therefore not going to risk it at the moment) and warranty as the drive is part of a complete system. Oh well no more scanning for me then until warranty expires.

*seeker010* · 31-01-2006

not sure where to put this, so I'll put it here. Here are some scans of some cheap media burns by various drives. They are burned at max as determined by the drive. My thinking is that average joe sees a good deal on a bunch of dvds, and will grab it; knowing good media from bad isn't knowledge that is out in the general media. So I've always wondered which drive to recommend to people who might not know anything about computers, but is always looking to cheap out. so without further adieu, here are the results with AML media

Liteon 165P6S; drive limited burn to 6x CLV; supports 4x-8x

*seeker010* · 31-01-2006

1635s

Code:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:     : DVD+R
 Book Type      : DVD-ROM
 Manufacturer:  :  unknown
 MID            : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:  : 6 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity : n/a

drive burned at 8x

*seeker010* · 31-01-2006

PX-716A

Code:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD-ROM
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 4 X
 Blank Capacity   : n/a
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Closed

got up to 8x, powerrec kicked in to reduce to 6x at the end

*seeker010* · 31-01-2006

1673s@1693s KC4B

Code:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD-ROM
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 6 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : n/a
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Closed

the scan didn't finish, I assume that the burn was completely messed up after that point since it took a long time for any drive to recognize the DVD

*seeker010* · 31-01-2006

NEC 3550

Code:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD+R
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : 4.38 GB
                  : 4482 MB
                  : 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Empty

*seeker010* · 31-01-2006

Benq DW1655

Code:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD+R
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : 4.38 GB
                  : 4482 MB
                  : 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Empty

*seeker010* · 31-01-2006

LG 4167B

Code:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
 Disc type:       : DVD+R
 Book Type        : DVD+R
 Manufacturer:    :  unknown
 MID              : AML 002 (000)
 Write speeds:    : 4 X - 8 X
 Blank Capacity   : 4.38 GB
                  : 4482 MB
                  : 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
 Layers           : 1
 Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
 Disc Status      : Empty

11-01-2005	#7 (permalink)
gravesg New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1	Re: AML DVD+R lol i didn't do the whole test thing but i found these in Compusa cheap cheap wonderin if they are any good at all

14-01-2005	#8 (permalink)
CanuckGod CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 197	Re: AML DVD+R Depends on your drive... I got about 40 or so e3works branded discs back about the end of 2003, I found the discs still play well over a good year after I burned them on my Liteon 411 (although I burned them at 2.4x rather than 4x, seemed to work with more DVD players). The same discs would probably burn nicely at 4x on my NEC ND-3500 burner (if I had any left I'd test for you) - they're probably better than Princo or AN31 or the really cheap types, but top quality they sure ain't (hence the cheap cheap ). __________________ System: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4600+, 1 GB 400 MHz DDR RAM, Gigabyte motherboard, GeForce 6150 w/ 128 MB shared RAM, Soundblaster Live! Value, Metro 19" LCD monitor, Seagate Barracuda 320 GB SATA HD & Western Digital 250 GB HD Optical Drives: LiteOn LH-20A1H (firmware: C0deKing's FB & EOS modified LL06) NEC ND-4551A (firmware: Liggy/Dee-27's 1-Z3 )

20-10-2005	#13 (permalink)
scoobiedoobie CD Freak Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,159	Re: AML DVD+R Sold at The Tech Geek (thetechgeek.com) as 8x AML +R, AML 002 media code. Burns fair on some burners, very well on my Benq 1640. Good cheapo media, depending on your burner. 8x on NEC 2500, FW herrie's 1.07v2b5: 2.4x burn on Benq 822 FW B3LC, set to 8x but it burned at 2.4x instead: 8x burn on Benq 1640 FW BSLB: Transfer rate test of the Benq 1640 burn:

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