I have had trouble backing up this title.
Every time I try Clone bombs out and I have to restart.
I tried ripping it first with DVD Decrypter and the same thing happened.
This happened once before but I can't remember the title's name, but I recall using DVD Shrink to get around it.
Has anyone else had the same problem?

Revhead -

Suggest reviewing the below CD Freaks Forum posting ->

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=182650

BeLooken

CDVD2 2.5.3.3
AnyDVD 5.4.4.1
DVD Decrypter 3.5.4.0
DVD Shrink 3.2

Disc is You, Me and Dupree R4 Australia
Recording Date 9/15/2006 16:08:42

AnyDVD tells me . . .
Video DVD (or CD) label: YOU_ME_AND_DUPR
Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: PAL
Media is locked to region(s): 2 4 5!

RCE protection not found.
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Structural copy protection not found.
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 4!

Just to update . . .
I was able to back it up by first ripping with DVD Decrypter, then running it through DVD Shrink, then burning it with Decrypter.
CDVD2 still didn't want to know about the ISO created by Shrink, even after copy protection had been removed.

Revhead

Your version of AnyDVD is over a year old and your version of CloneDVD is over two years old.

Visit SlySoft (http://www.slysoft.com) and download the latest most current up to date versions of AnyDVD and CloneDVD. To prevent using vastly old and obsolete versions of AnyDVD and CloneDVD keep the check for update feature of these software programs active.

BeLooken

Just to let you know.
Updated everything and it works fine now.
It's so important to complete these threads so that anyone reading them later knows if and how a problem was resolved, don't you think?

if you dont have ripit4me software u need 2 get it now!!!!! U will never have problems again! Just go 2 ripit4me.org download it & make sure u get the latest version it was just updated today v1.6.0. also make sure the fixvts that should download with it is updated 2 v1.6.2. then also u need dvd shrink&dvd decrypter 3.5.4.0 o.k. u just make sure u keep ripit4me updated from there on after...... your welcome

Err... shouldn't this be posted in a forum that has something to do with that software

Stop promoting other software.
The AnyDVD/ CloneDVD package is by far and away the best solution out there and I am not alone in that belief!

Revhead -

Thank you for returning to the Forum and informing Members what transpired.

Also your response to Forum Member o1boss was right on the mark.

BeLooken

o1boss –

Perchance did you even bother to read Forum Member Revhead #5 posting just above your posting?

If you had you would have noticed that when Forum Member Revhead updated his AnyDVD and CloneDVD to the latest version his original problem was corrected.

There is no need for Forum Member Revhead to acquire the 4 software programs you recommend when AnyDVD/CloneDVD are working correctly for Forum Member Revhead.

The tone of your posting prompts me to ask if somehow you are receiving a monetary compensation from ripit4me.org ?

BeLooken

My versions (AnyDVD and CloneDVD) are always kept up to date. However, I "thought" I had successfully copied (copy titles) from "Me, You and Dupree", but found that it was not watchable. Massive pixelation immediately upon attempting to play. DVD players (2 different players of different manufacturers) had the same exact issue. Same results with "Click".

Until now I've had relatively good luck. Complete failures lately. No system or media changes. Just updates to AnyDVD.

BTW: AnyDVD version 6.0.9.2, CloneDVD version 2.9.0.1 - however "Click" could have been done with an earlier version. I get notified for updates and always always always install any available updates prior to making a backup.

Reader is Lite-On SOHW-812S
Writer is Sony DRU-700A
Media is Verbatim DVD+R 16x recorded at 2x

Anybody?

Yeah, your version of Anydvd is old.

And your pixelation issue is an issue with your burner (update your firmware), the blank media you're using (burn at the appropriate rated speeds) or switch to something that works for you, your standalone dvd player (might be dying or possibly needs to be cleaned)--or any combination thereof.

Why are you burning this at 2x?

Your pixelation problem is not a software problem.

Huh? I've got the most recent version of AnyDVD. When I posted, 6.0.9.5 had just come out - I then immediately installed it - over the at that time most recent version of 6.0.9.2.

ALL my standalone players displayed the same issues (as noted in my post, completely eliminating player being the root cause.

I burn at 2x because burning at higher speeds has been much less reliable for me. Burning at 2x has (until now) yielded completely reliable results.

I did post on a different thread that I narrowed this down since then to be due to Verbatim media. Six DVDs recorded on the new spindle of Verbatims all failed the same way. I found a couple Imations, which I used to back up the exact same titles. They worked perfectly. I've used these same Verbatims in the past with no issues. So, either a bad batch or Best Buy is selling cloned Branded Verbatim media?

Winpitt –

You have posted your problem with your Best Buy purchased Branded Verbatim Media in numerous Forum postings. Perhaps you should review the Forum Rules and note the comments concerning Double Posting.

Suggest that you revisit these postings because various Forum Members have responded to your posting and have provided pertinent information.

I am not going to take the time and effort to retype my response to but suggest viewing your CloneDVD Forum posting titled “CloneDVD2 no longer functions”.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=202323

I believe you are off the mark with you assumption concerning your Best Buy purchased Branded Verbatim Media.

BeLooken

I can only go by what information you provide in this thread. I was not aware you had updated Anydvd. Moreover, by the time you asked "Anybody?" Anydvd 6.0.9.5 was out.

All = 2 ?

This does not eliminate anything, by the way, as some players are able to read a wider variety of media better than others.

Some burners do not burn 16x rated media well at 2x. In fact, doing so can produce very poor results, depending on the burner and the media used.


Some Verbatim media is better than others (you can use the search function on these boards to look into this further). Also, it's possible the media you're using was created elsewhere than the Verbatim media you're normally accustomed to using (more than one place/factory produces blanks that are sold under Verbatim's label). Then again, as you say, you may have stumbled across a bad batch. I think it's highly unlikely, however, that Best Buy sells fake Verbatim media.

Regardless, as I stated before, this pixelation issue isn't a bug with your burning software ( Clonedvd2).

If burning your problematic media at higher speeds fixes this issue, then . . .

Also, you should probably ensure you are using the lastest firmware for your burner. If possible, you should check to see if your burner supports bitsetting changes (to change +r to -rom).

Belooken's response to you in the other thread is a well thought out and competent response. Had I known of the other thread you created and the responses you received, I wouldn't have bothered responding (especially since much of what I've typed here echoes the same ideas).

I posted in the media forum AFTER I discovered that in fact changing media resulted in a different result, pointing to media being the culprit. Here's the chronology:

1) Responded in a post another user mentioned when backing up the same title I started having problems with.

2) Created a new post when I discovered the problem was not isolated to that specific title.

3) Created a different post in the media forum when I discovered everything was pointing to media.

Not saying that you're being a forum nazi, but..... Only came back here to this thread to respond because there was finally another post. Otherwise I would have let this thread die.

I'm completely confused from a technical perspective as to why I'm "off the mark" when I've amply demonstrated that by doing nothing but excluding the new Verbatim media, all problems go away. Further, that I've successfully used that same type of Verbatim media (Silver, Branded, DVD+R 16X, same packaging) many times in the past, and that nothing else changed. BTW, in each case when it had previously worked it was 16x media recorded at 2x).

6.0.9.5 was certainly out when I asked "Anybody", but was not out when titles (except Talledega Nights) were backed up.

I'm wondering why the argumentative feedback here? I never accused either AnyDVD or CloneDVD2 of being bad products or buggy. I'm beginning to notice a very unfriendly environment.

I suspect that Belooken is referring to this (but I could be wrong):

As stated before, Verbatim has its media made in more than one location amd by more than one factory. I find it highly unlikely that Best Buy is selling fake Verbatims.

I've already explained to you that this doesn't matter. You could use a tool (however, real Plextor and Benq drives are much better at testing burns with their own software) like Nero's cd speed tool to test the quality of your burns at 2x, but burning at 2x on 16x rated media can produce poor results, depending on the media and the burner. As I stated before, Verbatim doesn't always use the exact same discs from the same factory. As such, assuming that you received the exact same discs as before would be a bit presumptuous without more information (packaging can look very similar as well).

Anydvd has no bearing on this pixellation issue you are experiencing. I merely mentioned it because you stated you were using 6.0.9.2 and hadn't updated your information as of your "anybody?" post (I am certainly not a mind reader). Anydvd has nothing to do with your pixellation issue.

I bear no ill will towards you.

I agree that Anydvd and Clonedvd2 are not the issues here. Consequently, perhaps your question would be better suited in a different forum. This is merely a suggestion.

As I stated originally,

And by the way, I (and hundreds of others) have seen discs that played poorly on some players play perfectly fine on others. When this happens, the issue is not just the media or just the player--but the combination of the two (i.e., a compatibility issue, by definition, implies two things don't work together well).

1) Update your burner firmware (if possible)
2) Burn at a higher speed

If the pixellation issue goes away, then what does that suggest?
If it doesn't, then switch media (real Taiyo Yuden media is often a good choice. MAM-A gold archival quality media is an excellent choice (provided you can afford it).

Uh, OK I guess. I'll try to be more clear. BTW, I DID post in another forum (media) when I discovered media seemed to the the root cause, and I DIDN'T think it was probable that the media was cloned. However, I don't know everything and wanted to make sure.

1) I cannot record at the "rated" speed. DRU700 only capable of 8x max recording with +R, and 2.4x with DL.

2) I remain quite confused as to how the lower burn speed will yield poor results. I'd like to understand that technically. Is it something to do with temperature sensitivity of the dye? OTOH, my results seem to indicate the opposite - that lower burn speeds - with the same media in the past - yielded significantly better results.

3) I said I used the "same type media" to backup the "same exact titles". NOT the "exact same discs".

4) When I discovered the media variable was the key, I did post to a different forum, but then somebody on THIS forum essentially criticizes me for doing so.

Geez.

However, I really really would like to understand why burning at a lower speed can have (with the exception of longer times) worse results than burning at a higher speed. Technically I can't get my mind around that one. Doesn't seem to make sense. Certainly can't be related to buffering - that's for sure.

That's fine. You may want to try burning at 8x or 6x, You may want to choose media that's lower rated than 16x (might possibly be cheapers as well).

Not "will", but "may". It depends on the burner and the media being used. I'm not going to get into a huge discussion about this. There's lots of information on these boards and elsewhere. But this can apply to not only cd-rs, but also burning dvd blanks:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=61943#17)17

Except I would change "are" to "may not be" . . .

"same type media" isn't a lot of information

You see, Verbatims can be made by Prodisc, CMC, Moser Baer (made in India) . . .

PAPA likely indicates a CMC factory, by the way.

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.ph...3&postcount=10

Belooken, speaking of Rules, do you recall this one:

If you notice a user breaking the rules, please do not bash the user. Please contact the responsible moderator(s) of that forum or an online administrator through Private Messaging or use the 'Report Bad Post' function (click the orange exclamation mark in the bottom left corner of the particular post, just below the user's details) and have him close or delete the thread, this will prevent an unnecessarily negative atmosphere (and the mods won't get the feeling that someone else is doing their job.)

It winx burn master may perfectly solve the

proplems.

Dear o1boss: This is the AnyDVD Forum. Your post in no way asks or answers any questions to do with this software. If you feel you have to post about other software please do it in the main COPYDVDMOVIE Forum. As this was your first post, I can only offer some good advice. Keep the threads on topic about the software that the forum has provided a space for. Thankyou.

Dear jamoskeag: I do not think you have to tell Belooken the rules, I am sure he has read them. I do however, read all these posts and I will be the one who decides what is deleted and what stays. If I see rules that have been broken I will act upon them. Posting off-topic posts such as this will not be tolerated on this board. I am going to leave these posts so I can have an admistrator can take a look at them. Until such a time please ( and this refers to everyone posting on this board) keep your posts on topic, do not post anything that is not helpful or polite to new users and all members alike. I will be monitioring this forum and if I see rules have been broken, then steps will be taken.