Can you tell me if this is always going to be like this, or do you plan for clonedvd to remove these titles completely in future releases...

Up until the point of playback and seeing those grey screens, I thought clonedvd was brilliant, but this is disappointing.

I guess a grey screen is better than say.... a sheep!

Ooops... I just gave Olli an idea!

This is by design, and it *is* brilliant!

If you copy with menus, the titles which you haven't selected are replaced with "full length grey" (movie data with only approx 0.2 MBit rate), tom keep the DVD structure integrity. This makes DVDs created with CloneDVD highly compatible.

I suggest, that if you want menus, you start with a full clone and only deselect a few streams you don't like (making of, video clips or some episodes on multi tv-show dvds, etc)
I also suggest to disable not needed audio streams and all DTS sound to improve picture quality.

Maybe we really change the "grey" with something more interesting - still frame of a sleeping sheep?

Yes, yes, yes. This is very important. There is little point transcoding the entire DVD as what you pick gets crunched to fit into 4.377 Gigabytes. It is a good idea to pick the main movie, one audio stream (PCM/AC3/DTS) and one lot of subtitles (if required). In most cases, just one movie at a time will do the trick.

AC3 (Dolby) is just one twelfth of the original sound recording. DTS is a quarter of the original so the this sound format obviously takes up more room. If you can swap audio streams on the fly, you generally have to turn the DTS track down about 8dB compared to the AC3 track to keep the eardrums intact.

Point is, a DTS track and an AC3 track will take up more 'movie room'. I'm a DTS addict but I can't fault the movies that I get off my originals. The biggest movie I've done is Pearl Harbour (or maybe The Titanic) and the picture quality is great.

I invested in a truckload of DVD rewritables and if the kids frisbee 'em, they only have to pay for the replacement disc. It's win-win

Olli

The reduction in bits consumed thanks to the grey screens is obviously welcome. But, couldn't the IFOs/VOBs have been modified too so that instead of staring for twenty seconds at a grey screen that used to be the copyright warning, we only have to stare at it for one second?

(On the other hand, if you're planning to replace the grey screen with a picture of Halle Berry, forget what I just said!)

-Pete

Agreed, making this delay shorter would be nice, but you always risk a destroyed DVD structure. It is nearly impossible to check, if there are cross references in the middle of a title.
See, you can even leave out two episodes of "Buffy, the Vampire slayer", and if you enter the scene selection and select a scene in the middle of a greyed out part, the player will not hang or crash. Don't like FBI Warnings? Copy only the main movie.

Regarding Halle Berry: If you can convince her to agree to have her picture there... Maybe Halle Berry in a sheep costume?

And we need a girl-version of CloneDVD. Who do you gals want there, Robby Williams perhaps?

What I really want is the main movie plus the chapter menu. No more, no less.

Now you're trying to appeal to all colours of the sexual spectrum..!


Wouldn't know - not my orientation! David poncin' Beckham perhaps?

-P

what is this "thing" about you guys and sheep

you start to scare me.......lol

Bet your not as scared as the sheep

lol

Ok...just wait a minute here....

If I may dare mention another app here....

If i use dvd95copy, I can remove the titles i don't want to appear...i.e...those annoying dts ads and also trailers for other movies...
And by doing so, I am left with a dvd that plays exactly what I want...I've removed the offending titles...no grey screens

Why can't clonedvd do the same thing

OzDVD, Olli just explained it in his replies:

Actually, he didn't.

My question was "do you plan for clonedvd to remove these titles completely in future releases"

I'm not trying to be smart...Just want a simple answer before I decide to buy Clonedvd or not

Olli is right. Being a registered user of most of these "one click" programs and a power user, I have to say that DVD95COPY doesn't always do the job, as far as ommiting titles is concerned. DVD Structure differs on almost every DVD, so, it's almost impossible to predict a safe way of actions.
My suggestion is to learn all you can about Ifoedit, Menuedit and experiment.
Lately, Menuedit has become my favourite 'helper" proggy, and has got me out of the "hanging" standalone issues, when one selects a non-existent trailer etc.

Wanna see a badly authored DVD? DarkBlue, WB, R1. When I hit play on my standalone (Philips 743) nothing happens!. The only way to start the movie is through chapter selection!!
Works OK on my PC though .

Hi

Got some links or info about Menu-edit??

thanx

Here you go:

http://menuedit.dimad.net/home.html

-Pete

Never had that problem.

Thankyou, but I already know how to use these progs...I may be a newbie on this forum But I have been authoring dvd's since it's inception, and I'm not looking for suggestions that incorporate using other apps alongside clonedvd...

All I'm after here is a simple "yes" or "No" answer to my original question.

OzDVD:

You're looking for the Holy Grail there. You and me both.

I expect you already know that InstantCopy will do this - drop titles - but it doesn't necessarily mean the DVD will play afterwards! If the DVD makes an initial jump to a copyright warning, say, and finds it gone, it will immediately enter hyperspace and that will be that.

Ever since this game started I've wanted an application that would present me with the main movie plus the chapter menu. It's all I want. I'm a man of modest tastes. But can I hell as like get it...

You may be luckier than I. If you do find it, don't forget to share.

-Pete

Hi,

Answer is NO, we will NOT completely remove them, but we will try to find a solution, that the player will SKIP them immediately.

How about that?

When you've done that, I'll be at the head of the queue for a copy

Mind you, I reckon it'll be easier said than done...

-Pete

How about a screen that says "Title removed" pause a second then back to menu?

Not bad, but still intrusive. I'd much rather unwanted titles just disappeared.

-P

I see you are talking about warnings and such, I agree make them go away! I thought you were talking about selecting a title from the menu that is removed.

CloneDVD needs some more work in that respect but it is a promissing piece of software...

@ OzDVD:
I have to STAND by my statement, even with DVD95COPY 1.6b.
I just tried "Punch Drunk Love" with it, deselected the nagging FBI screen and warnings (Title 1) and the result is ...unplayable even by the All Forgiving Power DVD.

Maybe I'm jinxed, or maybe after >250 backups I cannot click a button the right way to deselect a title? I'm confused...

Anyway, I replaced the DVD95COPY titleset with the original, dood it the Ifoedit way, and backup plays OK. What can I say..

I second this suggestion.

Love the Sheep. And they will love you back..