anybody know....the answer?

it is taking me average of 25 mins to 28 mins to burn 1 full movie....

thanxs

What media is it and which speed setting do you use ?

hi.m8 i have used few of each of these
datasafe x4 ritek media,
verbatim x4 media,
grade a orange tangos x4 media

i have used speed settings of
x4
x8
maximum

all are taking between 25 mins-30 mins to burn 1 movie

i thought x8 dvd writer would take less than 15 mins...



thanxs again

Well, normally it'd take like 15-22' for a DVD writer to burn the 4x rated discs @4x.

Check the IDE cables, jumpers etc...is DMA enabled ?
What's your configuration ?

I experienced this problem.....

around 28 mins to write a dvd is actually 2.4x

15mins is 4x and i presume (don't have 8x writer) is around 8 mins.

Now i use a different program to write as clonedvd is far too slow.

If i write at 4x it takes 28 mins, if i read at max it takes 20 or so mins but the films are very dark, using pioneer 106D and ritekg.04 media.

how do i check these

Check the IDE cables, jumpers etc...


as am still new to dvd writing...

hburrows83
am i allowed to ask which programme u use now on this thread...

thanxs

Of course, these forums emplore freedom of speech...

You can use any program, ie i use what i have free and at the moment that's the new copytodvd 3 , but you could use nero, or any other program you have that came with your burner or software you've bought....

i have nec 2500 8x it is taking average 25-30 mins to burn a full movie....which should only take 8-15 mins to burn...i use clone dvd...which is the reason i think where the problems lie..... which fastest burning softwares do u use..how long does it take on your x8 dvd writer
let me know

not with you bo?where are these.how do i go on doing these...


Check the IDE cables, jumpers etc...is DMA enabled ?
Are the HDD & the writer on the same IDE channel - e.g. PM & PS ?
If yes, you need to set the DVD-recorder on the Secondary IDE channel, e.g. as SM.


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Well, download NeroInfoTool_207.zip, run it and tell us what you got there :

Nero Info Tool > Configuration tab :



Learn more on this subject here :

Ultra DMA (80-Conductor) IDE/ATA Cables

IDE/ATA Configuration and Cabling

IDE/ATA Configuration Jumpers

assuming you're actually burning at 8x (which i have doubts about), are you having buffer underruns? 8x shouldn't take anywhere near 15 min if everything is going smoothly.

1x = 60 min
2x = 30 min
4x = 15 min
8x = roughly 8-10 min (depending on write strategy)

are you using media that's supposed to burn at 8x?

thank u for that information bo

see next post for my information

my dvd writer is not set as master does it matter.


take a look at my information...


thank you again

always there to help

Interface Information
---------------------
Adapter 1
---------
Description : Primary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : System32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description : Master: WDC WD200BB-00CJA1
Type : Disk Drive
DMA : On
Description : Slave: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : On

Adapter 2
---------
Description : Secondary IDE Channel

Driver
Description : System32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys
Company : Microsoft Corporation
Version : 5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920)
Description : IDE/ATAPI Port Driver

Attached Devices
Description : Master: SONY CD-RW CRX210E1
Type : CD-Rom Drive
DMA : On
Autorun : On

There is something DEFINITELY WRONG with CloneDVD regarding recording speed.

I have the same issues, i have beeing writing for months at 4X and sometimes at 8X on all kind of discs with my Pioneed 107D in a lot of diferent software and recording times are right, if i use the same media and try to set recording speed in CloneDVD to 4X, 8X, 2.4X or max, it take always the same time burning the DVD, about 27 mins.


I am talking about CloneDVD2 SneakPreview. (When i last tried CloneDVD(1) y had a Pioneer 106D and recording speed setting was good).
I am using the 1.10 hacked firmware.
My burner is Secondary-Slave/ DMA Enabled.

And this is NOT a DMA/ IDE cable/ channel alike problem, cause ALL other software recording speed setting is simply perfect (even in software not oficially supporting 107D).

Greets!

As you can see here, all the above mentioned media is 4x rated.
Even if you choose the 8x speed setting,
this cannot guarantee that your burner will be able of burning it @higher that the rated speed.
See, some 4x DVDR media can be burnt @8x, most not :

Drive Type = DVD DUAL
Disc Type = DVD+R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 52 49 54 45 4B 00 00 00 (RITEK...)
Disc TID = 52 30 32 (R02)
Nominal Capacity = 4.37GB
Manufacturer Maybe = RiTEK Corporation
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 4.0X (Write)
---

Drive Type = DVD DUAL
Disc Type = DVD+R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 52 49 43 4F 48 4A 50 4E (RICOHJPN)
Disc TID = 52 30 31 (R01)
Nominal Capacity = 4.38GB
Manufacturer Maybe = Ricoh Company Limited
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 4.0X (Write)
---

Drive Type = DVD DUAL
Disc Type = DVD-R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 4D 43 43 20 30 31 (MCC 01)
Disc TID = 52 47 32 30 20 20 (RG20 )
Nominal Capacity = 4.38GB
Manufacturer Maybe = Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 4.0X (Write)
---

Drive Type = DVD DUAL
Disc Type = DVD-R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 54 59 47 30 31 00 (TYG01.)
Disc TID = 00 00 00 00 00 00 (......)
Nominal Capacity = 4.38GB
Manufacturer Maybe = Taiyo Yuden Company Limited
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 4.0X (Write)

Once again, when it comes to the 4x writing, your time of 25- 28' is very common :




Résumé : If you're into the speed and in order to fully enjoy your drive's speed capability,
you'd need to :

1) upgrade the writer with the latest firmware to enhance the media write compatibility

2) buy 8x media to certainly get faster speeds.

montoyauk,

pls read my answer to you here

my dvd writer is not set as master does it matter. at all.

how to i update firmware?


thanxs again

Try playing a lil' w your configuration and see how it works best.

The NEC site must have their support. Also there's info @ NEC Forum

Buy 8x media.

do i need to have my dvd writer as master ?

and my cd writer as slave?


what difference would it make?


thank you

can u help me bo..

what difference would it make if i change my dvd writer to master slave....

is it worth changing.....them


thanxs

Preferably, but not necessarily.
You need to test it by yourself.

Hi Ya

i have noticed exactly the same thing. Disc's are always burning at 28 mins here no matter which dye type i use. I have burnt Verbatim's at 8x no probs but dvdclone 2 refuses to dance with me on this......

so i simply use nero ...no more probs , burns done in half the time.......

seems to be a comon problem.


regards

Mark

zamarky1

how long did it take you burn verbatims on clone dvd at x8 speed

thanxs

Hi Montoyauk

err..... i cant remeber exactly now. It was some weeks ago. I have been burning lots of ......"2x" !!!! because i got them so cheap.

I sometimes burn a 4 x in 14 mins with nero but clone ALWAYS takes 28 mins no matter which disk i use...of course the 2x rated ones cant burn any faster but my expensive 8x discs burn at 28mins in clone as well ......grrrrr

But i only burnt two 8x so far. I have some here but i'm saving them for when i REALLY NEED a quick burn. So i mostly use 2x and happily let clone do the whole job. When i switch to 4x i HAVE to use nero as clone insists on 28mins each and every time, and i dont see the sense in paying a 4x price to burn at 2x ??!!!

Anyway , since i have nero its no biggie, clone is great for certain tasks, shrink better for others and the new kid on the block is in my opinion the best of them all ........DVDRB...ver 023 has fixed a lot of problems and its only very very early days. So pick the right tool for the job is my motto....i mean you would't try to overhaul an engine with an 18" adjustable spanner (only) would you (o.k all the girls here ...just answer NO...o.k...) so its the same with backing up shinny disks...use the right tool for the job.


although i could see how if you paid $50.00 odd dollars for a program and it burnt your expensive media at 28 mins you may be a little ......er.....not happy......

Best Regards

Mark