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CloneDVD Discuss, Defective DVD Structure at Copy Movie forum; I'm trying to burn a DVD using CloneDVD2 v2.9.0.1 and after I navigate to the VIDEO_TS folder of the DVD I want to burn, a window pops up saying "Trying to Repair Defective DVD Structure". This window has a % Completed bar. This process fails


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Old 16-09-2006   #1 (permalink)
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CloneDVD2 Defective DVD Structure

I'm trying to burn a DVD using CloneDVD2 v2.9.0.1 and after I navigate to the VIDEO_TS folder of the DVD I want to burn, a window pops up saying "Trying to Repair Defective DVD Structure". This window has a % Completed bar. This process fails and I get an "Unexpected Error" screen that says " Please be sure that all input files are available and that they represent a properly mastered DVD. If the error persists, please send an error description to....". Does anyone have an idea why this happens or better yet a fix for me? Thanks!!
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Old 16-09-2006   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Defective DVD Structure

Dub1031 -

It might be helpful if you provided information on what Software Program(s) and Version Number(s) you are using and how you are attempting to uses these Software Program(s).

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Old 16-09-2006   #3 (permalink)
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Is it a copy protected dvd? What did you use to bypass the protection, if applicable?
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Re: Defective DVD Structure

I may have a similar problem, getting Clone DVD 2.9.0.1 to read/copy the files from a Star Trek DVD I'm attempting to backup - also using AnyDVD 6.0.8.0

This is the file listed in the detail of error message is -
VobSet 8 3 1 1593 1679 1671 TCE

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The disc plays fine in my dvd player and on computer with nero6 showtime

but can't copy it; any ideas ??
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Re: Defective DVD Structure

No problems here with any of the R1 Star Treks. Try copying the disc to the harddrive first and then run CloneDVD against that folder.
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Re: Defective DVD Structure

Thanks for reply.

after trying CloneDVD2, I tried (old) DVD-decryptor, and Nero 6 & 7 - same story.

So tried copying the files off DVD onto computer, but couldn't copy VTS_03_0.BUP - cannot read from source disc

DVD is brand new, just picked it up yesterday - no scratches or other marks on disc; plays fine in DVD player and computer

I'm using an AMD Sempron 2400+ with Pioneer DVR110D 16x DL - tried rebooting to other XP drive (same computer, dual boot), then tried my older 900mhz Celeron with DVR107D 8x SL, and finally my laptop with external Lite-On DVD 16x DL burner...same story on all

just won't copy, can't read from source disc
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Do you have both a ripper and a burner? Try ripping with a different DVD drive.
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only 1 CD/DVD burner per computer, no ROMs

tried CloneDVD/AnyDVD/Nero in 3 computers, same story, so must be disc problem, but if it works fine in DVD player, why not in computer/s ??
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Did you rip to hard drive with AnyDVD ripper, or drag and drop? If not, try it with, "remove unreferenced and blank cells checked".
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thanks for that, tried as suggested wtih AnyDVD, that took about an hour.

Then used CloneDVD "copy titles", which took another 3+ hours to create the files ready for burning.

Finally burnt a disc, but it had no menu and only played (as one continuous movie) the first 2 of the 3 episodes, no way of selecting the 3rd episode on DVD player....another drink coaster....

completely lost with this one, are there any other applications/programs that may get around this, or is it possibly a 'badly' manufactured disc, even though it works in a DVD player?
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same problem here with Toy Story 2. I backup all our kids disks, cause you can just imagine how quick they get destroyed.

Log output of the rip attempt is attached. Running latest clonedvd with latest anydvd.

In fact, Clonedvd2 attempts to 'repair defective structure' the minute it attempts to read the disc, before you even get to select/deselect ripping options like removing subtitles etc. So it's an issue with reading the actual disc.

The dvd burner is LG GSA-H10N, version JL10 running latest firmware. I've backed up all our other discs without problems. This is the only one causing me problems.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have emailed support@elby.ch with the detailed log output. Hopefully they'll respond.
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aha, figured it out. Looks like the manufacturer is purposely entering bad sectors on this disc, making standard reading of the disc to appear faulty.

AnyDVD takes care of this if you simply check the box labeled:

Copy Protection Based On Unreadable Sectors

I checked this, and it copied just like all the others on my next attempt

Hope this helps for others experiencing this issue.
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Re: Defective DVD Structure

tried that as well (both checked and un-checked), still no luck.

I sent the .IFO files off to slysoft, they're going to check for consistancy etc...

It might have been a bad disc (even though it plays), I just got this fortnights TNG and I burnt a backup copy no probs

will post when I get a reply
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I am having the same frigin' issues! I have MADE sure i have the current versions of Slysoft software. I am using - without fail till now- AnyDVD 6082 and Clond DVD 2901. I have tried DVD43, Ripit4me, rip the disk to the HD using Anydvd. NOTHING!

I am trying to make a back up of Scrubs season 3 disc 3 so my wife can take it in our portable player when my kids go to their modeling auditions/shoots. the frustrating part is Saeson 3 disc 1 and 2 ripped fine. Disc 3 is having structure errors or what ever. the disc is clean, 100%. I just got it last night from Target.

Any help would be AWESOME! please let us know what you guys come up with!
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I am using DVD 2.9.0.1 and i have Fugi media. I have NEVER had an issue up until now. I am using a Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-840S and yes, i have disabled the RAM portion of the drive. I am also getting an Analogue Protection Error when i try to use DVD Mobile when i put my Scrubs disks on my iPod also. I have tried many many other all ternatives. i have tried other aps, same errors.

Any help would be KILLER!
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I am using DVD 2.9.0.1 and i have Fugi media. I have NEVER had an issue up until now. I am using a Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-840S and yes, i have disabled the RAM portion of the drive. I am also getting an Analogue Protection Error when i try to use DVD Mobile when i put my Scrubs disks on my iPod also. I have tried many many other all ternatives. i have tried other aps, same errors.

Any help would be KILLER!
Analogue Protection Error? AnyDVD default settings? (Click "Default")?
Try to run AnyDVD in "SafeMode".
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Re: Defective DVD Structure

Might have solved the problem with the Star Trek Collectors Edition disc I was trying to backup.

Disc 53 (TNG43) has the wrong 3rd episode on it; the same 3rd episode is correctly on disc 56 (TNG46).

This may be why 53 (TNG43) was giving the error messages when trying to make a backup copy, yet played ok on the dvd player.

A replacement disc 53 (TNG43) will be included with Collectors Edition disc 57 (TNG47) issue - I'll see if the replacement copies correctly.
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Jedi Master Flash,
You mentioned that you are using a Matshita (typo, right?) DVD-RAM UJ-840S. Please post the information window from AnyDVD with the movie you are backing up in the drive ... I want to check out the region code setting readout for that Matsushita.

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I tried safe mode and same issues. i have tried ripit4me but when you watch it, the flick seams like it is scratched or dirty. it skips or hangs between scenes. the source and media are flawless.

help!
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Jedi Master Flash,
Your postings are a bit confusing and contradictory. First you say you got "nothing" with all those program attempts. Then you say your backup skips which means you did get a backup. So if you could explain better, help for your problem might resume on this thread.

1. Please provide the information I asked for in post #18 above.

2. Also, about your fuji media:
is it made in japan(?),
+R or -R(?),
Rated speed?
what speed was it burned at(?),
and what is the media code out of the fuji's?

When you say:
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... the source and media are flawless...
... with both originals and blank media, there is more to "flawless" than just a shiny surface without scratches. Hense my questions about your fuju media.

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Finally received the replacement disc 53 (TNG43) with disc 63 (TNG47).

Used CloneDVD2 to make a backup; even with the correct episode 3 on the disc, it still reported several 'cyclic redundancy' errors. Clicking retry on each managed to do the job and I successfully burnt the backup.

Obviously there were overall problems with that particular DVD as no other disc preceeding it, nor since has given any problem burning a backup.

Thanks to all for advice, I'm sure I'll have problems with other discs at some time with which these solutions will work.
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I was having the same problems with Talladega Nights, while using anydvd and clonedvd. Scrapped AnyDVD and instead used DVD Region + CSS Free in conjunction with CloneDVD. No errors what so ever. Much easier than following most of the advice I read here. Not bashing anyone....But I hope This helps. =)

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I was having the same problems with Talladega Nights, while using anydvd and clonedvd.
If that happened, you were using an old (outdated) version of AnyDVD.
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I think I may know what is causing this. Initially, I had the same problem with AnyDVD. When I looked at the "Settings -> Status" tab of the drive in which the DVD was present, I would only see a "Found & removed wrong DVD structure!" message, and everything else was normal.

However, if I were to:
1) Eject the DVD.
2) Close (end) the AnyDVD application.
3) Restart the AnyDVD application.
4) Close the DVD tray with the DVD inside it.
.... This seemed to somehow "refresh" the AnyDVD application to be able to now read all the correct protections enabled for the DVD. I now see:

RCE protection not found.
Found & removed wrong DVD structure!
Found & removed Macrovision RipGuard protection!
Found & removed error zones between files!
Found & removed invalid program from program chain!
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Found & removed 2 bad sector protections!
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!

... and lo and behold, I was able to copy the files to my hard disk correctly, without a CRC error! Also note that there were some more *.VOB files that seemed to appear out of nowhere that weren't visible when the DVD was not being read correctly.

Please let me know if this solved the problem for others as well...
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I always say, the easy way's the best way. If you've got a double layered DVD disk, use the newest version of CloneCD to copy the entire disk. Sure, it'll have the same artificially created errors as the original and takes quite some time to finish, but it'll produce a working copy and that's easier than trying to work around all the specific copy protections.

I'm also thinking maybe you could also use CloneCD to copy an image of the DVD to the hard drive (minus the errors), then use CloneDVD to copy the image to a DVD-5 (Single Layer) DVD. Might not work if the copy protection prevents the DVD from playing without the errors, though. Then again, CloneCD might strip the copy protection off and leave you with the unprotected DVD files which CloneDVD would readily accept.

Someone let me know if this works.

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