Hello board. Im a newbie and have looked for an answer to my question, but have not really found the answer Im looking for.

So you help is appreciated and Happy Holiday!

I have been trying to copy a kids movie with Clone DVD, it all seems to go well, until I try to play the disc.. I select the option that grabs the main movie and it copies it and then burns it, but nothing happens this burned disc when it is placed in the home stereo dvd player.

Am I to understand that the Clone DVD tool that selects the files to copy, when you dont copy the whole movie, sometimes does not select all the files that are necessary for a copy to work prooperly? I seem to have read that I need all the IFO, VOB files on the disc and that the Clone DVD Software, sometimes misses them all??

I have downloaded and am trying out DVD Decrypter. It appears that the Decrypter software offers the advantage of being able to select the proper files for ripping with the proper teminology that is necessary to find the right files... whereas the Clone DVD is not as specific when it comes to the proper names of the files that Clone displays upon initial reading of the disc..

Is this correct??

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cordts,
Unlikely, CloneDVD, for the most part, does fine backing up the movie only or the whole DVD.

What movie are you backing up?

What version of CloneDVD are you using?

Did you check-"on" "Preserve Menus" when you made the CloneDVD backup?

Are you using AnyDVD also? what version?

What brand and type of blank media are you using?

What brand and model is your standalone DVD player?

Does the DVD Decrypter backup play on your standalone player?

another question that should be answered is:

at what speed did you burn the dvd?

It takes Two The Olson girls

Im using the latest version of clone

Did not preserve menus

LAtest version of Any DVD

Sony Blank Media

Sony Stand alone DVD Player.. I have burned other disc using the evaluation version of Clone and they worked fine

Burned at Max

Thanks for your help.. Really.. Thanks!

always state version numbers

is it + or -
4x? 8x? 16x?
the media code would be the most helpful. this can be found in the disc info tab of nero cd-dvd speed

any idea of the model? if you're using +r media (which we don't know) many models of standalones are not compatible.

always a good idea to burn at the rated speed of the media...possibly even slightly lower if you're having trouble.

also, do you have the most recent firmware for your burner? You never stated what model your burner was.

Ditto from me, cordts,
Never state "latest"... give the version number!
Never state "latest"... give the version number!
What Sony Media???? What type? What speed rating?
We don't know what burner you own or it's rated speed or the media you are using so max tells us nothing.
What Sony player????

I'm sure you are a nice person but these are lazy-*ss responses !!! Show is the info , we'll show you the solutions .

Best regards,
Whisperer

Best guess with little info to diagnose: Check Preserve Menu / burn at 4x-6x speed / on Sony -R media for player compatibility.

i agree with you on everything but this whisperer...I think that may have been teh only thing he DID tell us. clonedvd does in fact have a "max" setting, which I've found is always bad news.

it's always fun to try to guess at a problem without any information...right no wmy money is on him using dvd+r discs, and not being able to or knowing how to set the booktype to dvd-rom for his standalone that doesn't support dvd+r.

care to throw in any bets?

@ the OP I hope you realize the comments are all in good fun, but we really can't help you unless you provide information. I happen to have nothing better to do tonight which is why I'm trying to coax the info out of you, but you'll find many times people will just not respond to posts that don't seem to care enough to leave any important information about the problem.

Total agreement. I play my backups (between my friends, family and Saturn Relay) on about 10 different makes of players. My experience is, that for compatibilty with a wide range of old and new players, use High Quality -R media burned at speeds of (4x for 8x rated media) and (6x-8x for 16x rated media). I figured booktyping would be too much to throw at cordts with so little info provided and him possibly being real new at this. Others say it is ok to burn faster but I bet they have real new burners and real new players. Wait till they try to play them on a older player or a different brand player. Oh-oh! What's the big rush anyway? The few minutes of difference in the burn times should not be a problem...unless they have to return a bunch of movies by midnight

Sounds like your off work today and still stuck on an xmas visit at a relatives house.

Too many variables. And the joyfull season has sucked up too much money ... no betting.

Or chastise, berate, insult and if they are really in a bad mood, they might even be goshdarn ruuude!

Just foolin around cordts

PS: reasonsnotrules, what does "@ the OP" mean?

it means i spend too much time on message boards.

(it means "directed at the Original Poster)

So, "@ the OP" means "directed at the Original Poster". HVI (how very interesting)

You have a level of forum sophistication that I doubt I will EVER aspire to!

21 year old girls aren't supposed to be this nerdy. I don't know where I get it from haha

Hey, you're doing it because you love your movies, right? And ... I already knew you were a girl. I'll bet you can drive a stickshift too! According to GQ, men should choose to marry nerdy, shifty women because it shows competence and that they can bring some MONEY into the house.

Is this what they mean by "off-topic"?

cordts: If you are using +R media and the disc plays on you computer but not your standalone, there's a good chance that it is your booktype (also calle bitsetting). Download cd/dvdspeed (free utility) from http://www.cdspeed2000.com/ on the top, click on Extra, then Bitsetting. Where it says New Settings, change to DVD-ROM then click Set, do to all 3 choices. Now all the discs you burn will be compatible on older players and drives. Try that first then get back to us.

this was also my guess as to his problem, but there are a lot of "if's" involved.

(IF he's using +R media, IF the disc is only unplayable on the standalone, and IF his standalone doesn't support +R)

sticking with "IF's"...

IF the above isn't the issue, my next guess is the burn speed is too high or erratic to produce readable burns even though the process completes successfully. The solution to this would be burn at the rated speed of the media (whatever that might be...)

so now he has a few things to try...hopefully one of these will work, and if not maybe he'll get back to us with more info.

the more info we have up front though the less guesswork we have to do!!

ricoman,
cdspeed works with CloneDVD? You mean it's a standalone .exe on it's own? The "OP" is a CloneDVD user, not Nero. And it works with all burners capable of bitsetting? Single layer or dual layer disks? I never heard of that but I sure as hell would want to! Naw, too good to be true.

Best regards,
Whisperer

my toshiba automatically sets all + media to ROM. I use Qsuite to bitset on my BenQ.

I'm not sure if the nero utility will retain the settings for all burning applications...I just went into my nero and one of the settings disagreed with what I have set in QSuite...so I'm not sure what that means since I burn exclusively on +R media and all come out bitset to dvd-rom.

Ya, BenQ drives have their own utility bundled. Is that what "Qsuite" is? Does it also bitset SL disks on your BenQ when using CloneDVD? I notice ricoman uses the 1640. I wondered if he was confusing the BenQ utility with the cdspeed utility? And I'll be the first to admit that I am the one with no experience in either programs. But a universal bitsetter(?) I think I would have heard something about the existence of such a capability before now. But if it is true, I'm buying stock as soon as the market opens tomorrow!

Qsuite is the program bundled with BenQs. as far as I know it is the overriding factor. I don't play with bitsetting options in any burning programs and they always come out -ROM and I assume (maybe wrongfully so) that this is attributed to my settings in Qsuite.

nero cd-dvd speed does have a bitsetting option and the heading is "drive settings" so that's marginally confusing. Like I said, I have dvd+r DL booktyped to DVD-ROM in Qsuite, but in Nero cd-dvd speed it showed up as DVD+R DL, and the last DL media I burned (in ImgBurn which also has its own setting!) came out -ROM.

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can anyone make sense out of this. I just confused myself.

I'm not sure what program gets priority as far as these settings go...maybe they all just agree with each other. you change one and they all change? but that doens't explain my discrepancy between QSuite and Nero cd-dvd speed. hmm

PS, if the original poster ever comes back, I promise I'll get back on topic!!!

reasonsnotrules,
I don't know any of those programs but I understand why you get -ROM. The BenQ utility is defensively optimized for complete control over the firmware settings that control your burner. Being so, it rejects (to lower tech support calls) all commands from other software and overrides them with your choice of settings. Simple to do, just two lines of code (simplified) to reject outside commands:

if: any outside command to finalize
then: reject and go with QSuite user-setting finalize

The poor guy is gonna find 20+ posts to hash through! One thing bothers me, though, we shouldn't be suggesting a Nero solution to a CloneDVD user in the CloneDVD threads. It's just not "forum kosher"
I'm on L.A. time. Gotta go eat. Later.

Whisperer

PS: I'm somewhat disappointed in the bitsetting capabilities of my Pioneer 110D. It does not booktype "by default" (has no nice utility like the BenQ) so it takes it's commands from the backup software. This is a big problem with CloneDVD especially since it can't booktype SL disks as of v.2.8.5.1. Your BenQ brand may be my next purchase. But I don't know whether to go with the 1640 or the new unproven 1650. One other thing that worries me is that when some posters could rip a new hidden sector-block copy protection and some posters can't either Arccos or Ripguard), I saw a knowlegable post about the fact that BenQ's chipset stopped the user from getting a good rip.(?)

clonedvd doesn't have a bitsetting option so if that does indeed happen to be the problem, the nero bitsetting might be his best solution if whatever drive he has (we still don't know) supports bitsetting but doesn't have it's own handy utility like QSuite.

It's time for me to go to bed though. My hamster just took a good chunk out of my finger. the ungrateful little bastard got mad when I moved him away from my keyboard. he wants to play on cdfreaks too!

I hope the original poster gets all this sorted out and isn't too confused/mad/weirded out by all of the side-talk in his thread.

Clone DVD does support bitsetting. There is no selection to make other than to choose DL output for the media and CloneDVD tells the burner to go ahead and finalize DVD-ROM. ... but, alas at this time only for DL disks. Not SL. It's up to the burner to support by default or utility to accept CloneDVD's command.

You'll never get me to recommend Nero over Clone to anyone. Too many conflicts with other software on my nice clean backup-dedicated box.

Now I really gotta go eat.

Gentlemen,

So that I did not answer your questions in detail earlier.. I think that the Holidays have something to do with that.. I hope that you find the answers and information below to your liking. I had to read through all the off topic posts to figure out what you actually wanted me to answer.. So,, here goes..


Clone DVD Version 2.8.5.1

Any DVD Version 5.6.3.1

Burned at 8x

The Stand Alone Players are Sony DVP NS715p, Sony DVP NC555ES & a Cheap Magnavox unit

Using Sony DVD-R Media

The Burner is a Sony DRU800A Version 5.1.2535.0

Yes, it works with CloneDVD, actually with the burner. I have an ND-3500 and BenQ 1640. I know it works with the 3500 and believe it does with the 1640, tho I set the 1640 with Qsuite.
There seems to be some confusion, so let me see if I can explain. You can set booktype or bitsetting with any number of different software including cd/dvdspeed or dvdinfopro (both free, tho dvdinfopro has ads with it). Cdspeed, go to Extra, then Bitsetting and New Settings, change to DVD-Rom and click set, it will stay as your default until you change it; I set all 3, including SL media to DVD-Rom, because friends have had problems with my +R media in their older machines if I don't. With Dvdinfopro, click +RW to find the bitsetting.
Obviously, that is not cordt's prob, since he is using -R media.

ricoman,
With respects, how would cdspeed create a interface between CloneDVD and my Pioneer 110D? How would CloneDVD or the Pioneer firmware even know cdspeed was there? Is it more like a driver than a program? Are you able to choose different burner models in cdspeed settings? Pioneer would have to write their firmware to allow cdspeed to access it right? Burner manufactures who make drives capable of booktyping are not on the same page as far as standardizing +R bitsetting. There is no common interface written into all firmwares. And how come I feel like someone is trying to sell me some real estate? Just joking.

And again, I don't use nero or want it on my machine. so is running cdspeed ok with that? I look for a solution for CloneDVD.

Sorry to question, ricoman, and I don't doubt your good intentions and helpfulness, but it seems too good to be true. In multiple threads concerning CloneDVD's inability to booktype DL media with many burners (or SL media on any burner), no mention (to my recollection) was ever made of cdspeed as a solution. The only solutions mentioned were that the individual burner's firmware has to booktype "by default" or have a proprietary utility bundled with the burner that perfomed this funtion. How could so many experienced members not know this. Only solutions mentioned were to buy certain burners or obtain hacked firmware for burners capable of booktyping but not by default. And NO mention that it allows CloneDVD to booktype SL media.

Also, can anyone else verify cdspeed fuctionality? Is it a do-all booktyping / CloneDVD interface solution for all drives that booktype? Single layer disks too?

I know there is a member named Tru, who has alot of software, hardware and booktyping knowlege and knows alot about CloneDVD too. Maybe he will visit this multi topic thread and comment.

Thanks,
Whisperer

I don't like Nero either, never use it, always used AnyDVD/ CloneDVD and a few times DVDDecrytor/Shrink or DVDFabDecrytor. Cd/DVDspeed is just a cd/dvd utility program, it does nothing to or with CloneDVD, it sets the booktype on the drive, not the software. It is also the main utility that people use to discan or quaility scan dvds burned on any drive. It's free, I'm not selling anything, just giving you a very good tip. Try it, you'll like it. Look in some of the burner forums, like NEC or BenQ, just about all the scans are done using cd/dvdspeed.