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CloneDVD CloneDVD extracts, transcodes and writes any orginal DVD title you like, to a single recordable DVD. If you have problems, an opinion or a suggestion, be sure to post here!



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Old 19-06-2003   #1 (permalink)
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CloneDVD is brilliant

Just like l said, its brilliant. l can now backup DVDs and play them on my LG and Pioneer players. Before when l used DVD2one it wouldnt let me play any backups on many players. Including my friends Phillips and Sony players aswell.
l love the quality it does also.....

G8 work and l thankyou for doing such a g8 job with the software.
To me it was well worth the wait.

Great work to the guys at www.elby.ch


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Old 19-06-2003   #2 (permalink)
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It's so great that it's on the last place on doom9org? :-)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...light=CloneDVD

I have only problems with the software untill now...
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Old 20-06-2003   #3 (permalink)
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CloneDVD

there is nothing unusual for CDfreaks site for everyone to bag the hell out of new DVD backing up software...
A lot of people bagged the hell out of DVDV2one when it came out, now its the "be all that ends all.."

l must admit DVD2one is good and l praise it....But after seeing what l can do with CloneDVD, and l am very impressed with the results l am getting....
Wot used to take me 3 steps for backing up now takes me 2 steps.

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Old 20-06-2003   #4 (permalink)
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I like CloneDVD also. I think the quality is as good, if not a bit better than DVD2One. It is so good I am going to register it.

What is very important, when doing a full-disc transcode, is how the resulting DVD layout is preserved and how it functions compared to the original DVD - whether there are any issues with menu navigation etc. I have tried them all and here is my list on what program retains the most compatible dvd layout when doing a full backup:

CloneDVD (Elby)
DVD2One
Pinnacle InstantCopy
DVDShrink
DVD95Copy

DVDShrink would be number one if it had option to compress the video titles more so one could fit all the audio tracks on. Since it cannot do this, it is not capable of transcoding a full DVD correctly (all the other programs can).

DVD95Copy has issues that I just don't feel like getting into.

The best program I believe to do movie-only is DVDShrink, because it is very flexible in the way you can stack and order mutliple titles if necessary, trim titles etc. CloneDVD would be next choice because it offers more flexibility than DVD2One. DVD2One really needs a preview feature to be more competitive. This really helps when doing movie-only to make sure you get the correct title.
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DVDShrink would be number one if it had option to compress the video titles more so one could fit all the audio tracks on. Since it cannot do this, it is not capable of transcoding a full DVD correctly (all the other programs can).
Beavis, it's free software. I wouldn't bitch too much. It does a hell of a job for what it costs.
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Your compatibility issues are probably tied to the application you use to burn your DVD's and not DVD2ONE. I have used DVD2ONE and Ulead Movie Factory to back up many titles and they are all compatible with any stand-alone DVd player I or others have tried them in. They also work flawlessly on the PS2.
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I've heard that the demo version requires that you use a seperate program to decrypt the DVD first.

Does the FULL version of CloneDVD allow 1:1 copying? Can someone enlighten me on this? Thanks!
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Old 20-06-2003   #8 (permalink)
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I am not bitchin...

I see many others post how DVDShrink is greatest program ever, which it is very good program and I agree for most-part, but it still can be improved! I think I said more good things about DVDShrink than bad, if you took time to read.


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Beavis, it's free software. I wouldn't bitch too much. It does a hell of a job for what it costs.
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Your compatibility issues are probably tied to the application you use to burn your DVD's and not DVD2ONE. I have used DVD2ONE and Ulead Movie Factory to back up many titles and they are all compatible with any stand-alone DVD player I or others have tried them in. They also work flawlessly on the PS2.
Well obviously you have not tried a stand-alone that has problems. I can play these "problem DVDs" fine in many stand-alones too!

I should clarify here that probably 95% of players will play the DVDs correctly and it is just a few that show the navigations issues. My Toshiba SD5109 is one of those, and a few others have problems too. Go look at the Animatrix threads in DVD2One forum and see how DVD2One does not backup the DVD correctly for that particular player, but other programs do.

Now this is an issue that is very hard to convince most people because like I said, most people will not have a problem and they think that people who do are crazy! You just have to take my word on this.
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Old 20-06-2003   #10 (permalink)
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Well obviously you have not tried a stand-alone that has problems. I can play these "problem DVDs" fine in many stand-alones too!
CloneDVD was developed specifically with stand alone player compatibiliy in mind, and professional tools like Philips' DVD Verifier and UDF Verifier were used for quality assurance.

Unfortunately this still doesn't really guarantee 100% success, but I'm happy to hear that in your case it was worth the effort.
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Not all standalones are created equal.

There are some DVD titles that come from the store and don't work in some standalones - although that is happening less and less as the format matures.

At any rate, I think CloneDVD is quite nice, and wait to see what Olli has in store. I don't mind running DeCSS...err... I mean DVD Decryptor first, so long as the end result is a better movie.

As for DVDShrink, my major complaint about it is that it doesn't have variable compression. Often, a level 2 compression will make the movie a WEE BIT too big to fit on a DVD-5, but a level 3 will make it only take up 3.3 gigs! I'd like a little more flexibility in that area, and also as someone else mentioned the ability to squish just a little more in order to fit audio.

All these programs have their place, their ups and downs. DVD burning is a black art right now, much like CD burning was a few years back.

In a couple years, we'll have idiot-proof programs that will let you put in a DVD of any type (audio, video, data) and copy it. But until then, we're stuck with the "running a dozen programs that all do essentially the same thing" hell. This is a nice addition to my collection, and I'll probably actually buy it at some point - much as I did with CloneCD.

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I've heard that the demo version requires that you use a seperate program to decrypt the DVD first.

Does the FULL version of CloneDVD allow 1:1 copying? Can someone enlighten me on this? Thanks!
No cloneDVD wont do this full version or demo, this is due to legal reasons of course.
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You already have that in the software called DCS ! No third party software needed at all to make a full copy !
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It's so great that it's on the last place on doom9org? :-)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.ph...light=CloneDVD

I have only problems with the software untill now...
Clone DVD has just rls, i remember when CloneCD first came out, it wasnt the greatest, once they impoved and killed out the bugs, it is now the best, maby or hopefully CloneDVD will turn out the same, but who knows anything can happen.
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As for DVDShrink, my major complaint about it is that it doesn't have variable compression. Often, a level 2 compression will make the movie a WEE BIT too big to fit on a DVD-5, but a level 3 will make it only take up 3.3 gigs!
DVDShrink 2.3 is out in case you weren't aware.
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mrbass forgot to mention DVDShrink has 10 lvls of compression from 5% to 50%, plus still picture @ 85%, to satisfy the most anal user. There's no difference between the original and compressed movie until you reach 35-40% compression.
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Old 01-07-2003   #16 (permalink)
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well l have to say l prefer CloneDVD that DVDshrink and DVD2one.
l have used all 3 bits of software.This software (CloneDVD)has not disappointed me from day one since its release the other week...l have now more DVD players that l can use my backed up disks on that ever before....


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I like the nice interface of clone-dvd....but it would be great if it was possible to have it all in one interface.
I mean...when you have clone-cd....and you install clonedvd....that both get the same interface.

But that is just a wish..

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there is nothing unusual for CDfreaks site for everyone to bag the hell out of new DVD backing up software...
A lot of people bagged the hell out of DVDV2one when it came out, now its the "be all that ends all.."
DVD2One has never been the "be all that ends all.." since other programs came out to compete with it

the only field for me that DVD2One is the leader is the Speed department

like I have mentioned all programs are the best in certain fields but some are higher placed than others and for me personally CloneDVD & DVD2One are below DVD95Copy & DVDShrink in my most important depts. Quality is the most important field for myself cos I don't care whether it rips/burns, takes 2 clicks and does the job in nanominutes especially if the quality suffers for it

I guess it's just down to preferences and at the moment CloneDVD ain't brilliant in my eyes

DVDShrink is the best all rounder at the mo for me (even tho I dont use it but I've tested it), but again that's my opinion and others will agree and disagree

I guess we'll always get differences of opinion cos it's human nature
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everyone is entitled to there opinion..
But for what l have seen CloneDVD can do compared to DVD2one and DVDshrink, is g8.
At least now l can play my movies on more DVD players than ever before. Where with DVDShrink and DVD2one l can only play on the cheapo under $200 players. My sister inlaw and my mates DVD players cannot play any movies on there system using DVD2one or DVDshrink. But CloneDVD backed up movies can now play on their players...

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DVD Shrink doesn't do the burning as its only purpose is to compress the original DVD to fit on a 4.38GB DVDR disc. What were you using to burn the files onto the DVDR discs? 'Cause I have no problem playing my DVD Shrinked movies using Nero as the burn application on "expensive" Sony stand alones.
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everyone is entitled to there opinion..
But for what l have seen CloneDVD can do compared to DVD2one and DVDshrink, is g8.
At least now l can play my movies on more DVD players than ever before. Where with DVDShrink and DVD2one l can only play on the cheapo under $200 players. My sister inlaw and my mates DVD players cannot play any movies on there system using DVD2one or DVDshrink. But CloneDVD backed up movies can now play on their players...

I agree with Stoner, I also use Nero and have no burning problems using DVD95Copy/DVDShrink/IC etc

I guess whatever works is the best for the user is their choice but it ain't necessarily the best for others and the majority don't think CloneDVD is that such app when I'm on my travels thru forums

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Well I pretty much agree with what Mackem say's, for me there is no real substitute to IC7 at the mo, yes it does take a bit longer but hell it's better than the old days of backing up a DVD using DVD2SVCD & CCE and sitting back and waiting 8 hours whilst converting a movie and not being able to use your computer for any other purpose!

My point is, do we realise how far we have come in such a short period of time?

The great thing about Shrink is that there ar so many movies that are DVD9 and dont have extras on the disc, rip the files and run them through shrink...... ditch the DTS/foreign sound and subs and all you have to do is sit back for 5 mins whilst it copies all the uncompresed files to a VIDEO_TS folder! Fantastic, no quality loss and done in mere minutes!

CloneDVD will get better I'm sure, but for now I'm just gonna burn my films with it until the quality and adjustability improves.
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