Hi

I am new here but have read a lot of the threads on this issue but am still experiencing a problem despite my best efforts.

I have a Dell Dimension 5150 with a Phillips DVD8801 burner. I have had clone DVD for at least a year with no problems. Until recently that is when I began to get bad media error messages before the end of the burn (Clone DVD Write 10 11 W2 Error).

I am using a registered copy of Clone DVD 2.8.2.1. I know this is not the newest version but it worked for so long and so well I have resisted the urge to update it. For media, I have been using mainly Maxell (media code is RitekF1) and Sony (media code is Sony D21). I have used both DVD+ and DVD-R. The strange thing is that these media discs were fine before and now all of a sudden it is not being accepted. I have another PC (an older Dell) and it reads and burns at a much slower rate. The same media is working fine there but it can take 3 hours to decrypt and clone a DVD on the old Dell so I would rather not do so.

I have read the forums about updating the IDE busmaster and have done so successfully. I have also installed DVDinfopro to figure out if I need to redo the firmware. I have attached a screenshot of it (see pic 1) According to what it says it looks like my firmware is 2D06. I have no idea if this means it is new or old. I found another thread that directed me to a d/l for a benQ file called BCIC.EXE. Apparently, BenQ made my Phillips burner so I tried the file but it gave me yet another error message. This one stated that the drive is not allowed to be updated (see pic 2). Hmmm, Ok....

So now I am completely stumped. I would like to at least try to slow down my burn speed in Clone DVD but wasn't sure how to do that. However I just found the tab that will let me drop down from max to 4x speed. I am going to try that now. However, even if that does work, it doesn't really address why the same media on the same pc has abruptly ceased to work for me when all was well before on a continuous basis. Any relevant advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

LC




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Welcome to CDF's:

There is a thread for you to read here > http://club.cdfreaks.com/f74/writedvd-10-11-w2-126827/

@ Lastchancers,

Welcome to the Forum.

Well your CloneDVD v2.8.2.1 is only two years and 20 revisions old. It is highly recommended to obtain the newest most current up to date version of CloneDVD. Quite frankly in the arena of ever changing Commercial DVD Movie BackUp Software no advantage can be derived by using a two-year-old Software Program.

Also you fail to mention what version of AnyDVD you are using but seeing your use of an ancient version of CloneDVD it is highly recommend visiting the Official SlySoft Web Site (http://www.slysoft.com) and obtain the most current up to date visions of AnyDVD-CloneDVD.

Your Philips DVD8801can be flashed to BenQ DW-1650 which will improve Drive performance and provide better Media compatibility. Suggest reviewing the below Forum posting ->

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/crossfl...dw1650-178571/

Both of particular Media you are attempting to use is known poor quality problematic Media. Both of these Media are plagued with poor quality control problems which result in one blank Media disk to perform OK without issues but the very next blank Media disk to fail to perform correctly. Suggest ensuring that you are only using known proven high quality Media such as Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim Media which consistently provides quality error free results.

Regards,
bjkg

Hi guys.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Bjkg I am considering updating clone DVD to a newer version as you suggested. Just to give you a background though, the reason I am so resistant is because in the past I have used programs, gotten confortable with the interface and options and then would updated to the newer version only to find I preferred the old one. This has happened several times so I am weary of updates once I like the way a program works. Since my program is no longer working as well now I can see an update may be a good fix. However, it doesn't really answer the question of why clone has all of a sudden stopped working when it was fine for so long. I would prefer to get to the root of the problem itself and return things to normal as opposed to upgrading. But if things don't get fixed soon then I will acquiesce to an upgrade.

I did try to burn a DVD last night after posting and changed the max option to 4x. It was a successful burn. So that was nice. But I don't know if this will be a consistent outcome as I have only tried it once. Will keep you up to date on that .

As you mentioned, I failed to mention AnyDVD on my pc. This is because I don't use it and actually didn't know it existed until last night when I read several threads on this subject. I d/l a trial version to check it out once I discovered its existence. I understand it takes disclaimers off the copied disc. But right now, I am doing that manually thru Clone anyways but unchecking parts that I don't want to be copied. There's probably more to anydvd than that I would think but I've only just begun to check it out.

As I mentioned in my post, I did try to update my Philips DVD8801 to a BenQ DW-1650. I understand this wil improve it and provide better Media compatibility. So I am defintely up for that. However, I received the error message I mentioned when trying to do so. The message said the drive is not to be updated. I don't understand why. The post you mentioned (http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/crossfl...dw1650-178571/) does not mention why I may be getting this message. I have never tried to "flash" anything or anyone so perhaps I am doing something wrong. I had no clue that people flashed their optical drives. Forgive me for appearing ignorant. I am not a luddite, but also not completely comfortable in the world of ones and zeros.

As for media, I had a feeling the Maxells (made by Riteks) weren't all that great. Too bad because as a kid Maxells were the best brand out there for tapes. They had a good name so I figured I would by a 100 disc spindle and go from there. But according to

http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm

The discs are regarded as 2nd class media. The SonyD21 discs however are listed as 1st class media. However, you mentioned in your post that it was poor quality. Could you elaborate further on that so I can understand further why you regard it as poor when digitalfaq considers it top notch? Either way, I agree with you that I should buy Taiyo Yudens in the future. This is precisely what I mean to do from here on out. But still, there is no reason to throw away the spindles I already bought.

Regards,

LC

@ Lastchancers,

Did you in fact pursue the BQFlasher links and follow the detailed information in Forum Member zebadee #5 posting links? If you follow the link in Member zebadee #5 posting this leads to step-by-step detailed information on how to correctly flash your Philips DVD8801to BenQ DW-1650 ->

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/crossfl...dw1650-178571/

It cannot be over emphasized the importance of using the newest most current up to date software programs to BackUp Commercial DVD Movie titles. The Movie Manufactures are spending millions of dollars to consistently and routinely change the sophisticated anti copying schemes used to prevent copying the Commercial DVD Movie titled. If you fail to up date the AnyDVD- CloneDVD software programs which are consistently and routinely change to incorporate the new technology employed by the Movie Manufacture you will encounter difficulties when attempting make BackUp copies of your Commercial DVD Movies. It’s like attempting to take a Model A antique car on a 2008 Super HiWay and keeping up with 80MPH traffic.

Don’t rely on your referenced Digitalfaq.Com Web Link which is plagued with inaccurate and mostly outdated information. If you want to obtain current up to date factual information on blank DVD Media suggest visiting the CD Freaks Blank Media Forum (http://club.cdfreaks.com/f33/)

As stated previously you are using known poor quality Media. This Media has a well-documented history of poor quality control issues. One piece of blank Media will appear to perform OK but the very next piece of Media in the stack will have a manufacturing flaw and not perform correctly. Using this Media you are playing hit and miss Russian Roulette never knowing if you are going to get a Coaster or a good BackUp copy. Obtaining and using known proven quality Media such as Taiyo Yuden or Verbatim Media you stop playing Russian Roulette and become a winner ALL the time.

Regards,
bjkg

Hi Bjkg

Thank you for your reply. As mentioned earlier, I agree with you about the media and will buy strictly top shelf disc from here on out. I also see your point about updating the version of the program to a newer one. Your advice seems sound to me and I thank you for it

As for the zebadee # 5 posting. Yes, I did see that prior to writing my last post but still wasn't clear on the process. When I clicked on his link it took me to another post

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/benq-how-flasher-171380/

In this post it suggests a choice of 3 different links to d/l the f/w (not sure what f/w means but it must be flash something or other). Anyway, the 1st link is dead & the 3rd link is for another model (BENQ DW1640)

That leaves only the 2nd link:

http://tdb.rpc1.org/#DVP1650P

It's a dangerous brothers site...anyway, you are supposed to select your drive model. My Phillips should be flashed to a BenQ DW-1650 and when I select that model from the drop down menu it displays some downloadable links. It says:

Currently RPC1 firmwares based on BCDC, BCFC, BCHC, and BCIC.

I take it you are supposed to only choose one....or maybe not. It doesn't really say. If it is only one then which one? I do recognize the BCIC as the same one I attempted to install last night. I gave me that error message which said my drive could not be updated. So maybe I have to go for another one...but which? I don't want to ruin my drive which I understand may be possible if I do the wrong thing. Maybe I am missing something. I know I am not the most computer literate person in the world so it wouldn't surprise me if you are shaking your head as you read this. Either way, I find the instructions are not clear and assume the reader does have a solid understanding of the topic. This is far from so in my case.

As ever, your advice would be welcomed and appreciated. Thanks.

@ Lastchancers,

It appears that you are NOT completely following ALL the referenced links concerning cross flashing Phillips Drivers to BenQ Firmware specifically posting #7 and reading ALL steps necessary to CrossFlash your Phillips DVD8801 to BenQ 1650 ->

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/benq-how-flasher-171380/



Download Forum Member Quikee BQFlasher from the following download link ->

http://quikee.cdfreaks.com/BQFlasher.zip

Download the necessary Nero WNASPI32.DLL file from the following download link ->

http://www.bang.ro/downloads/wnaspi32.zip

Visit The Dangerous Brothers Web Site and download their modified patched RPC1 “Region Free” BenQ DW-1650 vBCIC Firmware (BCICRPC1.Zip) ->

http://tdb.rpc1.org/#DW1650



Now unpack/uncompress all the Zip files that you downloaded from the above links in One Folder which will result in the following files in One Folder ->

BQFlasher.Exe
WNASPI32.Dll
BCICRPC1.EXE

When you have ensured that you have ALL the above files in the same Folder then click on the BQFlasher exactable file and select and load the BCICRPC1 file in the BQFlasher and let the BQFlasher flash the BCICRPC1 firmware file to your drive.

->*<- Note the above is quick synopsis on how to use the BQFlasher to crossflash your Phillips DVD8801 to BenQ 1650 BCIC Firmware. STRONGLY advise to Thoroughly and Completely review the referenced Forum Member zebadee crosflashing guide and fully understand the principles and steps involved before proceeding with the crosflashing procedures.

Regards,
bjkg


PS - On a different note - This particular BenQ Drive is highly desirable. The BenQ DW1650 is an excellent drive for performing Disk Quality Scans to ensure that you are obtaining quality error free burning results. Suggest keeping this drive until it becomes totally un-functional.

This drive only reads it does not write.

The BenQ DW-1650 and the BenQ DVP-1650P are two entirely different Drives.

For clarification purposes The Dangerous Brother Firmware download link provided in the above recent #7 posting is for a BenQ DW-1650 DVD Burner (DVD/CD Read-Write) and not a BenQ DVP-1650P DVD-ROM (DVD/CD Read Only) Drive.

Regards,
bjkg

Bjkg

I've been pretty busy but managed to take some time to try to figure this out some more. I have d/l all the files you mentioned and have been able to extract into one folder. Thereby resulting in the following 3 files in one folder

BQFlasher.Exe
WNASPI32.Dll
BCICRPC1.EXE

So far so good. I am planning to flash the drive soon. I find your instructions are very clear and very much step by step. However, when looking at the previously reference post

http://club.cdfreaks.com/f92/benq-how-flasher-171380/

I do find myself confused about the process. According to the above post, you need to do this in safe mode.

In #3 entry, zebadee states:

Firstly have pc running in safe mode. From within Windows go to start > then > run > type msconfig > click OK > from the window select safe boot. See fig 1 > 4. Let pc boot into safe mode.

is this necessary or can this flashing be done withouth being on safe mode?

LC

@ Lastchancers,

Perchance have you noted the paragraph highlighted with ->*<- in my #7 posting?

Regards,
bjkg

I have noted your disclaimer to read the original post carefully. I just was hoping for confirmation about safe mode. I have never done any of this and what you take for granted as easy or self explanatory is not necessarily so for me. I understand if you don't want to seem repetitive. Thank you for your help.