Subject: simple copy by Clone DVD won't play on new home dvd player

I’ve had Clone CD for years and it’s been great. Got Clone DVD so I could easily copy home made DVDs. Simple, no encryption or copy protection, etc. The copies work fine in a PC but will not play in a dvd home deck (tried in the newest DVD players). For kicks I made a dvd+r copy of a 2 minute dvd+r using Roxio CD Creator 5 and the copy worked fine. I e-mailed Elaborate about it and:

Elaborate Bytes Team responded that this copying is not supported?????

Clone DVD should make a copy that will play on a home DVD Player (especially when an old Roxio program can do it)

Any ideas? Thanks

Long version and response from Elaborate Bytes Team:

I made a dvd from my mini dv camcorder onto a dvd+r. it plays fine in my pc and other pc's and my sony home dvd deck slv-d500P ( a very new deck).

When I make a copy of my dvd using Clone DVD it plays fine in the pc but will Not play in the sony home deck. It just says "loading" for a long time and gives some message about putting in a usable disc.

I tried making a copy of the original DVD using Roxio cd creator 5 and the copy works normal in the sony home deck and the pc.

Any suggestions why the copy by clone dvd would not work but the copy by roxio would?

I also found this information:

Used space shows 183,924,736 on the original disc
Used space shows 183,924,736 on the roxio cd creator 5 disc
Used space shows 78,858,240 on the clone dvd disc

Vts_01_1.vob file on original disc: 78,249,984 bytes
Vts_01_1.vob file on disc copy by roxio 5: 78,249,984 bytes
Vts_01_1.vob file on Clone DVD Disc: 78,372,864 bytes

Why would my copies made with roxio cd creator 5 be exactly the same file
sizes and disk used size as the original and play fine in the sony dvd deck
but the clone dvd copy has a different VTS_01_1.vob file size and a much, much
different "disk used" size" and it does not play in the sony dvd deck

This is just a simple 2 minute home movie dvd

Version: 1.3.11.2
OS: Windows XP
ProblemDVD: home dvd
Burner: nec dvd+rw nd1100A rev 10FD
Reader: liteon ltd163 rev gdhg
SameIDE: Yes
MicrosoftIDE: Yes
Normalcopy: Yes

The answer Elby gave you is correct

>so I could easily copy home made DVDs

...these are probably not ISO/UDF bridged format or even in any sort of DVD-Video format. Unless you have an .IFO/.BUP/VTS compilation, it aint gonna work in CloneDVD.

You can copy your home-mades in Nero Burning ROM

Thanks for the reply.

Both the original disc and the clonedvd and roxio copy have AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS folders.



the AUDIO_TS folder is empty in both. Is the original structure not common dvd?
The VIDEO_TS for each is:

Original DVD VIDEO_TS folder:


The clonedvd VIDEO_TS folder is:


The original dvd properties:


The clonedvd properties:


I still don't follow why clone dvd could not produce a "clone" of this dvd, esp why the used disc numbers are so far apart. Maybe the program name doesn't reflect it's abilities accurately. I was spoiled by how well clone cd worked - it even made a working backup of the navigation cd in my bmw when no other program would.

I'll try nero, thx for the tip.

(edited to show Audio_ts and Video_ts in uppercase)

>Audio_ts and Video_ts

these *MUST* be in uppercase

I'm learning. All fixed

>All fixed

CloneDVD works?

>All fixed
CloneDVD works?

If it were only so.
no, I fixed the lower case to upper case and edited my prior post.

fyi, that vipersig you have was developed a few months by a Dodge Viper guy in our group. gets him lots of "fan" mail from people that get uptight about it. His "fun" site is www.viperalley.com and he goes by packetjunkie there

I have no idea, why CloneDVD's copy doesn't work.

How did you create the copy? Did you

1.) Use second "Use-Case" "CloneDVD"

or

2.) Use third case "Write existing Data"

Whatever you did, could you try the other case?

Thank you!