I've writen this little progy, wich allow user to build/extract ISO based on XBOX file system.

I've added the program the ability to burn the ISO onto a CD and DVD. all work fine, accept that, it wount burn into DVD-RW (didn't got the chance to check it on DVD-R).

From working around, I found that the DVD don't support Track at once wich i used to burn CDs, and the only format it support it PACKET.

I'm sending commands directly to the Device, using the WNASPI32.dll from nero (wich support ATAPI devices as well), i'm not using the Nero SDK. since that, i need to do the pocket sending to the device by my self, and that is the problem.
I don't know Which commands to send to the device in order to do so, and in wich order.

I've read the MMC4 documents couple of times, and tryed to look on the net for some sources , or more info , without any success.

If any of u know the answer, or can direct me to some sources, or docments, i'll apritioate it.

Thnx you all
and hope you will find the time to help, althogh i'm not using the Nero SDK.

XcalibEr/Wheelman

DVD+ does only support packet. DVD- uses the same write command like CDs (but is limited to SAO). Only the initialization differs.

I've tryed everything with burning DVD-RW and without success.
I think i found out that u can't write DVD-RW the same as writing DVD-R, or the problem is the specific brand of the DVD-RW or the version which in this case Version 1.1

when sending COMMAND SENSE to the device, it respond that the device is capable with DAO (which is SAO)/Pocket writing. tryed to find any Doc which explains the steps for SAO/DAO or Packet writing and which commands i need to use in order to do so, and without any luck, thats way i decided to find my luck in this forum.

My program's writing CD-R/RW without any problem using TAO, don't know how to do it using SAO/DAO or in Pockets.

Any help will be aprisioated.

You could try spying on the ASPI traffic of cdrecord-prodvd, DVDDecryptor etc to find out more

I wrote a little spy program , which write all the trafic into log file, but it seems that NERO also have trables to write the ISO file into the DVD-RW wich i used, and i also tryed another program, which gave me the same error as my program , and that the media don't support this format.

I've also downloaded the last version of NERO, and it seems that every time i wanna burn and iso file into the dvd-r , it wount even show the PIONEER dvdr in the device combo.

do u know of a program that burn DVD-RW, and uses ASPI as interface.

thnx

XcalibEr/wheelman

If Nero also has trouble, it could indeed be the disc (princo?)

I don't know if the problem is the DVD-RW cose i havent got to use the NERO for burning DVD-R , until now , every time i've tryed , it faild, and it looked for CD-R insted (strange).

The other program that faild was MAGIC DVD/CD (or something like this), and it faild from the same reson that my program did "the madia don't support this format".

Did u had success with burning DVD-R/RW with nero, and if u had, which version of the program it was.

THE ONLY ONE PROGRAM that burn the disk, and every other without any problems, it's PRIMO DVD, but i'm almost sure, it's not using the MSASPI32.DLL.

Anyway, i'm looking for DOCS of TUTORIALS , to help me lern how to burn DVD-R/RW and CD-R/RW by using packet, and SAO, all my serching over the net, at the last month , have been a waist of time.

Even the two books which i bought from amazon, where a waist of money, cose all in it, i already learned by my self, and thay don't tell anything about programming DVDS.

I hope any of u , know how to do it, and he's not to lazy to write respond

Thnx
XcalibEr/wheelman

I have burned really a lot of DVD-R and DVD-RW, with many different Nero versions, beginning with 5.5.6.4, up to 5.5.10.35.
It never failed, except for some medium errors on Vivastar dvd-r and Princo dvd-rw.

Nero is not even capable of doing packet writing with dvd-rw, so your program is correct to see DAO as the only possible mode.

R U sure about that??

Cose if so, thats the reson it faild to burn this Maxel DVD-RW.
The only program that could burn it is PRIMO DVD, as i mantioned before.


Which file formats did u burn to DVD-R using NERO??, UDF??

I'm asking that becose i got the feelling that , when i'm choosing ISO (under iso, bin, cue) the NERO automaticly think i'm burning a CD, and that why it faild, cose it waits for CD-R to be in the Tray.

If u have the time, please try that.

thnx alot.

XcalibEr/wheelman

I already did all variations: ISO, ISO/UDF and UDF on both dvd-r and dvd-rw.
But those are only file systems, and not recording modes...it is of no importance for the drive if it burns ISO or UDF...

Is it possible that you just have some conflicting software?
There is no reason, really no reason, to burn a dvd-rw in packet mode...

BTW, the MMC4 files, at least the ones I have, are kinda b0rked. You should have a look at MMC2 for example if you need to use the GET STREAMING or SET STREAMING command...
Mine doesn't. That was a bug up to Nero 5.5.9.something, but has been fixed long time ago (and replaced by the bug that file sizes over 4 GB were misdetected)

The ISO you speak about is just a disc image! It is NOT the file format inside the image! You can easily make ISO files that contain an ISO/UDF bridge/Rockridge file system with mkisofs and still use the file name extension ISO

Hi ..
Thnks for your replay.

I know what ISO is I wrote the program XisoManager which build an XBOX ISO file format, and extrat it.

The only reson for asking this was when choosing ISO file on NERO it asked for CD-R end ejecting the disc. so i thought maby NERO check to see the file format, and decided wich type of media it will burn it to. (a programmer can do it , u know )

I downloaded the demo version of NERO 6, and it's not showing all the burning devices on the combo. I tryed everything, and sometime it shows me only the TEAC CD-R/RW burner. and sometimes it shows also the PIONEER A03 burner.

So i thought maby it does that from the same reson i mantioned above .

Maby i mistaken, i don't know, but all i know, until now i couldent burn a DVD-RW with nero.

All my DVD-R/RW where burned using primo DVD which worked flawlessly. so what ever the reson is, i would love to fix it.

Thnx
XcalibEr/wheelman

Nero should ask you whether it is a CD or DVD

Then there must be some kind of conflict.

Can you try it on a clean windows, without chipset drivers?

That was a fast reply

Why would u think that the Chipset drivers has anything to do with this problem?

This specific computer has NVIDIA chip set, and before replacing the board it has VIA chipset, and had the same problem.

What is wrong with MMC4 T10 Docs? until now i was working only with it! NOW by u'r advice, i've started to read MMC2.

Can u write down (in short) the steps to burn a DVD image.

Thank you again for u'r kind help, and for u'r time.

XcalibEr/wheelman

The IDE interface of the Pioneer A03 is really bad. On some KT7A boards, it won't run at all with VIA drivers installed. Even on a former iBX440 chipset, my A03 only worked in PIO mode. The drive behaved randomly with DMA mode...
For example, the description of the SET STREAMING command lacks the description of the data block you attach...it just is not in the file, at least not in the file I have

I did not yet program the burning on my own, so I can't provide you the command sequences.

But as long as you can't do it in Nero either, you have weird conflicts and should try to find the reason for those conflicts, instead of wasting time by looking for bugs in your own code which might not even be present...

I was checking for bugs, until i found out the think with nero, and you helped me CLEAR THAT UP.

I just finished reinstall (Upgrade really) windows XP (cose that blaster worm), and tommorow i'll check if it fixed the problem. if not, i'll check for FirmWare upgrades for the DVD-R. and play with the IDE settings. (any recomandations?).

If any of that wount help, i'll just move the DVD-R to another PC i have and in which i just finished to install brand new XP, hot from the Oven .

After that i'll be back with report.

Thnx

XcalibEr/wheelman

well,
after reading this post i am a little scared.
today nerocmd did not burn either on dvd+r nor dvd-rw, you con see the code at

this is the important line
nerocmd --write --real --drivename %burndevice% --tao --iso %cdname% --speedtest --close_session --underrun_prot --import_iso_only --disable_eject --verify

--media_type media_dvd_any name.ext --error_log brennen2.txt

and the answer is:

NeroAPI reports: Track-at-once writing is not supported on this media.

what is wrong?

best regrets
Cristian Dvorak

btw, how do i change my profile name?

That's the same error code that i get on my program while trying to burn DVD-RW, i don't get it on DVD-R.

In most of the cases i don't even see my device at the Nero Devices ComboBox , while trying to burn with Nero 6.

If anyone does have expirience in programming DVD-R/RW using SCSI MMC4/2 ,please contact me via email.



XcalibEr/wheelman

xcaliber@xtreemwarez.com