Hi all

When I try to rip a DVD I dont get the option to change to any other TARGET FORMAT other than VIDEO CD or any other Sound option apart from STEREO. what do I have to do to change this?

I have the box, the serial number and the very short instuction leaflet.

In the about box when I have opened the program it says the serial number is there so I know I have a proper bought copy from Lidl here in the UK.

I can even tell you the bar code number on the box!

Can anyone help me with this?

Thanks
tel33

Thanks Pamm
I will let you know asap on my progress, it makes me wonder how they can get away with doing this? We bought the product in good faith and now that has gone, still if it works then I owe you!
Cheers
tel33

You know that what you're doing there is illegal, hm?
If your serial doesn't work properly, you shouldn't use another serial illegally, but contact the manufacturer. I wonder how much brains it takes to think of such instead of pirating software...

BTW, there is a "cut-down" version of MovieJack, it's called MovieJack VCD, clearly stated to be a low-cost VCD-only tool.
As always, first enable brain before doing anything else

Thanks for the info on the piracy bit well I consider that if I have bought a product and it does not do what it says it can do then its not fit for the purpose and therefore Trading Standards can deal with it.

It is not stated on the box that this is a cut down version anywhere and yes it does say VCD but VCD can come in differing formts as you well know. Its even more annoying that the disc mentions about the other formats so who is in the wrong here?

I admit that but what is most annoying is that if you go online and put in Moviejack2 as this is the program I bought then it comes up saying it can do all these wonderful things but it cant with the copy I have, sadly this is not my fault if the marketing dept cannot get its marketing correct.

Just to let you know I have tired it and it does not work so I am not better off but have paid for a sub-standard program which had I known when I went and bought it I would have put the money to a full version!!!!!

If you buy a car you dont expect it to only come with two wheels do you!!! So why should i expect to buy a program that does not do what it is alleged to do?

I would like an answer to that please without being deleted off the site.

By the way I tried to get in contact but cant find out how too as the English site is not up and running thats why I came on here!

Oh and another thing, the program is designed to rip DVD's correct? Well let me say why has the program been developed? If it is illegal to rip DVDs then this program is an accessory to the the fact yes?
Iam not doing anything illegal trying to get a program I bought to do what it says in the instructions!

I hope others agree on this as they must all be breaking the law too by using this program!

VCD comes in exactly two flavors, that's VCD Specs 1.1 and VCD specs 2.0, both available from Philips, the owner of the patent on this format. Period.

MovieJack VCD is much cheaper than the full-fledged version, that's because a number of things which require royalties to be paid by the manufacturer are disabled in this version. MovieJack VCD is intended to create VCDs, that's all. Regardless of all this, the other formats are mentioned because you can purchase an upgrade key to unlock the additional features.
Nonetheless, if a product doesn't suit your needs, you shouldn't steal another version, you should return it for a refund and buy the other version


Maybe check out the MovieJack website at http://www.moviejack.org/ to find what you're looking for


Yes, it has been designed to rip DVDs, but that doesn't imply anything about target formats. I never said anything about ripping DVDs being illegal in addition. Maybe you're getting a bit confused now
And ofcourse it's illegal to use a software with an illegal serial number if you didn't purchase such a serial before. To come back to your example with the car, you can't pay for a mini cooper and then steal a rolls royce because you're not satisfied with the size of the mini cooper.

Think about it.

I have thought about this hard and the fact still remains that the product instructions do not mention that you cannot use the facilites on the disc!

As far as I can see it does not state that you have to have an upgrade key, tell me where it is please?

It does not tell me its a cut down version, yes there are differing VCD formats so which one is it allowing me to use?

Where is the email address for me to contact you for information?

I did not request a crack or hack remember only an answer.

Yes if the serial number worked then all well and good but it did not so I have a product that is not what it claims to be.

I have not broken any law trying to get the software I bought working with another serial number that happened not to work anyway, I already have a serial number that in my opinion does not work too, would you like me to email it to you to prove that I own the product?

No I dont expect a Rolls Royce for a Mini, who does but what I expect is a program that I assumed, due to the instuctions on the disc itself, that I could use different formats.

I had to open the disk to use the program only find out that it is not what the websites around say! I cannot read the disc in the box when it is closed and especially not without a computer to read it from can I?

I have a case here for Trading Standards and as I sit only 6 feet away from them in my office I will be discussing this tommorow morning with them.

By the way do I not remember reading that a man invented Decess to copy his DVD films etc onto his hard drive etc?
Did this man not go to court and be let off?
Well just to let you know he is going back to court, surely reading other posts about Safedisk being removed then you lot sould end up in court too for producing the same kind off program!

Keep me informed about what they tell you. I'm really interested in their comments. And BTW, you don't need to insert the disc into your computer to read the printing on the cover, do you?
I know that you didn't ask for a serial, that's why I didn't edit or delete your posts, I only mentioned the facts. I'm only human as well, but to explain it once more, if the package reads "Mercedes 200C" you can't expect to have a 500SLK inside. And ofcourse you're not allowed to that that 500SLK legally just by mentioning that the other package didn't mention that it's not intended to have a 500SLK inside
Let's end this discussion for now and wait what the TS comments on this. BTW, the email address you're looking for is at the very bottom of the page I mentioned.

In consequence this would mean that if they succeeded with such, you and every other buyer they could spot would be sued as well. Next time better think twice before p*ing into your own closet

Ok no problem I will have a word with them it will be interesting what they say.

The email address I was after was the MovieJack english help address, not this forums one or your personal one.

I tired to find out info on my problem BEFORE I came on here for help but sadly could not find any and the email address on the program instructions mail@hotline-pro.de. just kept coming back as no good so I was forced on here for help, did not want to but it was a last resort.

I do not see the instructions on the front of the disk in binary and Pdf format can you?

Do you have a built in computer where you can put the CD in your mouth and read Pdf files?

When you go and buy a program, do you open it in the shop and play it first in your mouth?

No you dont, so your statement about having the instuctions on front of the disk is out of the window isn't it?

The packaging reads "Movie Jack" "The DVD Copier", nothing more, nothing less, I am not wrong and you know it, its the principle I am going on here about, I hope you can see that?

If you can't see it then I suggest you had better start p*ing in your own closet once they knock on your door and do you for creating software that breaks copyright laws!!!! If it was indeed you?

Mind you, I wonder if you have a few copies lying around of films you have that will break copyright law by being copied by you.

Please note:- The warnings are normally mentioned at the start of the DVD film about this, unless its a copy of course!! lol

We shall see! I am confident, thats why I only sit 6 feet away from them or should I say my Trading Standards collegues, if you get my drift!

P.S Like your smilies!

Would be interested to hear other peoples views?

Regards to you Dark_Schneider

One last thing, do you record off the Television or Radio onto Tape or DVD? Think about it before you go on a high and mighty crusade!!! Fellow copiers, we are not alone!!!! LOL

Geez, I'm too lazy to quote all this
1) The email address on your package is probably wrong, okay, but I pointed you to the moviejack website where you can find a contact email address at the bottom.

2) I didn't say anything about the top side of the cd nor do I prefer to eat CDs I was talking about the cover, the box the cd came in. If you don't have one, did you already check if your cd is a recordable one

3) They don't create software that breaks copyright laws, people break laws. It's just like with guns It's BTW completely okay in quite a number of countries to create personal backups of your stuff, as long as you keep them personal. No public broadcast, no sharing, no trading. And before you ask, my collection is about 1,100 audio cds and about 150 DVDs, among a ton of video tapes I use to record my daily dosis of tv while I'm at work. I usually do not watch TV live because I hate commercials. With a good VCR and a solid thumb on the fast forward button, you can save a lot of time while watching tv as well.
And just to annoy you: the cds and dvd I mentioned are 100% properly purchased originals Quite a part is second-handed though. But that doesn't matter. And guess why I prefer originals? I like cool artwork and thick booklets. (That should make you think, and you're right, I'm not into buying charts crap )

4) Yes I have some copies, personal backups in my responsibility, kept along with the originals because I don't want scratches on my expensive DVDs. My number 1 example is U.H.F., cult movie, I watch it rather frequently (given that I usually don't watch a movie more than once) , followed by spaceballs. It's even difficult here to get these DVDs, so I want to keep them in perfect shape for as long as possible.

5) I usually tape TV broadcasts of time-shifting purposes only. I rarely come across anything I want to see more than once. And in these cases I usually buy the DVD when it becomes affordable (e.g. Forrest Gump for 6.99). Most TV broadcasts here are useless for recording anyway because TV stations like to cut them so that they can put more commercials on schedule. And as if this wouldn't be bad enough, the syncs usually kill the rest

Hello everybody! I have just nipped in here from my own post -
"movie jack 2 vcd - could somebody please help me?"

Firstly to Dark_Schneider, thanks for the info. It makes me feel a little less dissapointed with what i bought, don't feel quiet so much like i wasted my money now, well as long as the updates arn't going to cost me.

I don't want to annoy any one here but i do understand what tell33 is talking about as i too bought this version, sorry tell33 but you are both wrong and right, your probably thinking 'what the hell is she on about, how can you be wrong and right at the same time??' Well here it is....In your defence the outer box DOES just say Movie Jack The DVD Ripper and does not mention anything about not being the full version or anything about a trial half version, or even anything about being able to buy an upgrade key, but on the other hand in Dark_Schneider's defence when you open the front flap of the box (which is not sealed down) and look at the screen shot it clearly shows 'Movie Jack 2 VCD Ripper'.

To us poor amatures though, no matter what it is called this implies that this is what we need copy DVD's to VCD's, we don't know that you are going to need to spend out more money to get a fuller version...we thought this was all you needed, at least i did.

To tell33.... if you want to contact somebody about your software go to www.hotline-pro.de click on english, select 'movie jack' from the product list, then click contact support, fill in all the details required, explain your problem and submit, this is what i have done but i am still waiting for a reply.

Overall it is a very misleading box completely inapropriate for what is inside, improvements could and shoul be made for this packaging, the size of the packaging which is 30cm x 23cm x 5cm to hold 1 disc and a leaflet the same size as the disc could be greatly reduced, the savings that could be made on the packagings could be passed on to the customer and the packaging should be more informative so that the customer knows exactly what they are buying.

I don't really care what kind of VCD it can produce as long as it is a good copy, i only bought it because my daughters and i are big Buffy/Angel fans and i have already shelled out £90.00 for each of the available seasons on dvd and the girls are getting a DVD player this christmas and there is NO WAY on this earth they are even going to be allowed to breath on my DVD's never mind borrow them at those prices, so i thought that by buying this ripper i would be able to save a lot of money, but unfortunatly even after registering it i still have no full version and am unable to use it, until that is the updates that Dark_Schneider told me about are available (read about it in my thread mentioned above).

As far as the legal side of producing this kind of softwere, the law as i understand is this... Anyone is entitled to invent, create, produce & copywright whatever they want and sell it to the public as long as they pay their taxes, it is even legal to purchase such a product and i THINK it is legal to use it for personal use BUT the illegality of it is when you use it to make pirate copies to sell for personal gain and profit.

Sorry if i have offended anyone.

Hi all it's me again

I had a word with my collegues in Trading Standards and they are taking the case up with Lidl the chain of supermarkets that sell the product, it does indeed break the trading discriptions act just as I thought it did.

So in all, I am right and so is "board now" in the fact the the packaging is misleading and Trading Standards agree otherwise they wont take the case up.

As to "board now" saying that the inside says its MovieJack 2 VCD, well sorry to say my copy came in cellophane so I could not open it to look inside if I wanted too anyway, thats in my defence.

Thanks "board now" for the info on the site, when I tired it it was down, as was the email address, I will contact them shortly probably with the same compliant as you.

Also I agree that the packaging is much too large for the prurpose of carrying a CD and a small piece of paper, shame on you people for wasting Earths resources!!!

As to reading the printing on the cover.

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"And BTW, you don't need to insert the disc into your computer to read the printing on the cover, do you?"
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You well know I was talking about reading the Instructions on the disk in pdf format, not the cover of the box, which I have already said is miselading, please make sure you understand by reading my posts a bit better.

Still at least I know I am right and my local Trading Standards officers agree with me too. Victory!!

On the apsect of copyright, here is an interesting site that tell you all about copyright theft.

http://www.fact-uk.org.uk/legislation%20fmset.htm

Regards to you Dark_Schneider and board now

If anyone else want to join in, it's good to talk

Good morning all.

I really didn't want to get into the copywright bit to be honest, 'cos lets face it all of us that go out and buy this product are buying it for one reason and one reason only...TO BE ABLE TO COPY DVD'S not to sit on your mantle and look pretty! I have already stated very openly why i wanted to copy my dvd's and there are many people out there who will use it for the same purpose, maybe thats why you (tell33) bought it, i don't know but there are people out there who buy it simply because the price of dvd's these days are ridiculously high so they hire a film to copy and there are others (the majority i suspect) who buy it to sell copies, but if you really do want to get in to it with trading standards be very careful and think long and hard before taking any action because if this does go further there will a lot of questions directed towards you personally as to why you bought a product that is purely intended for the copying of DVD's which the legality of is pretty much a grey area, you could find that you may end up being prosicuted for the intended use of this product.

I'm sorry to say but trading standards can not do a thing to Aldi's for selling this product, they are not the ones who designed the missleading packaging, it is the manufacturers who are a fault here. Have you been back to Aldi's since? I have, i have told them the problem with this product, simply to get this answer

'Thank you for bringing this to our attention, but we can not refund you your money, there is obviously a problem regarding the registration number with this product, but i'm affraid that you will have to contact the manufacturers about this (he pointed to the web address on the box), maybe they will give you another number to use.'


This is what i have already done as i said before. Last night i got a reply well a standard mail stating that maybe i put the code in wrong and mistook '0s for 'Os' so i have explained everything to them, the half product & missleading packaging ect, hopefully they can come up with something better than a standard mail this time, i have told them that i want exactly what i was lead to believe that i was buying.. A DVD COPIER. Well let's wait and see hey.

I have to admit, I haven't seen the UK package, as this was designed by the UK distribution partner and is completely in their responsibility. If they messed up, they should accept that
Please keep me informed how all that turns out, I'm pretty curious about all this. Maybe one of you got a scanner and could scan the package and the inside part of the mentioned front flap for me?

Can do so, will get a scanned picture off to you asap.

Regard
tel333

I can, but you won't get quiet the full picture as i only have an A4 scanner and the box slightly exeeds that size, just goes to show the lack of enviromental awareness. Where do i send it to though? Is it possible to get the pics onto the forum at all for all to see, this way everyone can see why we are up in arms about this and will understand our complaint better, hope so.

By the way mine wasn't cellophane wrapped, it just had sticker seals on each end of the box.

By the way, did any of you notice that the box just reads "MovieJack"? It's not Moviejack 2 nor MovieJack 3 on the box, right? MovieJack 2 VCD which you purchased is just an update to MovieJack, same features as the old MovieJack (just ripping to vcd, that is) but with improved features. I'm sorry I didn't notice that at all until a co-worker pointed it out to me, shame on me for that!
But this nulls and voids your argument with the Trading Standards as you're really expecting something wrong
No hard feelings, honestly. But facts are facts

Hi Dark

I agreed with your request for me not say anything anymore on this forum after you asking me in an email to "keep this private" till the whole procedures were gone through.

If you think you have got a case, as you obviously say you do in the post above, then may I suggest we take this further up on the forum and I carry on my case with Trading Standards?

Please stick to your agreed email statement

Regards
Tel33

Hi all,

Well i just got back from a lovely extended easter break to find what i can only seem to make out as we (tell & i) are being fed a load of rubbish somewhere along the line, sorry but as you say facts are facts!

Rebember the web address i gave earlier in this thread to complain to, the one tell could not get to? Remember i said that i got a standard reply about the code and that i mailed them again about finding out that we had bought a cut down version and the missleading packaging? Well guess what!!!! I got another reply, this time giving me another code to put in (which also doesn't work!) but you know what the really interesting thing was about thier mail was.....they stated that what we bought WAS A FULL VERSION!!!!
So now i am begining to wonder what in thee hell is going on here.

Please tell me cos i have no idea, what exactly is the difference between MOVIE JACK, MOVIE JACK 2 VCD, MOVIE JACK 2.07.002 and MOVIE JACK THE DVD RIPPER????

I have no idea either Board, if you wish to email me you can at tel33@tel33.freeserve.co.uk

I have agreed with Dark "To keep this private" I will however discuss this with you by personal email.
Regards
Tel33

I will e-mail you the replys i have received so you can see for yourself what both myself and the help line had to say about what we bought, but basically they are saying that we did buy a FULL version of movie jack 2 vcd.

As for keeping this all private, i have never been asked to do that at all by anybody, but then again i didn't threaten to go to trading standards (no sarcasm intended, but i know the way it may read), i think that was a polite way of saying shut up about trading standards.

These boards are for this purpose, to discuss, ask questions and to be informative about these products which is what i am doing.

But i would still like to know the difference between the different versions.

By the way - The best format to ripp DVDs to is VCD. Ripping to SVCD lasts too long and there are too many Players which got problems with SVCDs...