OK these are my drives that I can use to read or burn.

Toshiba xm6702b cd drive
Toshiba sd-m1502 dvd drive
Plextor 24/10/40A
Lite-On 32x12x40S

I am using BW 4.2.1 since others have reported this version the best but I need success on the Toshi DVD drive as this is what is in my other system used for gaming.

Can someone give me some help that has gotten it to work on toshis using Clone, BW, TwinPeak etc.

I gotta get this working! HELP!

sorry i dont think its possible, the toshies just cant read the twin sectors properly.
cheers

well for the past 5 hours all i've been doing is trying to back up this game instead of playing it.
well if the origional cds can be used in the toshis then someday we should be able to make backups and play them in the toshis.

Well here is what I did to at least make a play copy.

read in my tosh dvd drive
make bwa from tosh dvd drive.
burned with lite-on onto a cdrw

it let me play after about 4 minutes of spinning the cd. I thought the thing was going to crash my system but at least it played.
used 4.2.1

I also tried CCD and TwinPeak but didn't even come close to working.

here it is, a step-by-step tutorial for backing up ut2003. blindread/blindwrite latest version is needed. a demo can be downloaded at www.blindread.com. being a newbie, i spent several nights after work trying to backup the 3 disk set i bought for $48. not to mention the 15 cdr's i wasted with various software and configurations (boy was my girl pissed since they were hers, i ran out). my son, 3 yrs old, who believe it or not began playing unreal at 2, cannot get of my pc !!! after i noticed several scratches on the original disk 1 which is needed everytime to begin the game, so here we go:

Read Portion: Extract the contents of the cd into an image. (orange arrow from cdrom to disk). When blindread begins follow and apply the following check marks.

1. make make sure you click on general settings, test cd layer access, and that the vso driver is used. if prompted to restart do so, if not go back to main menu.

1.5 next select dump image from cdrom.

2. select your writer from the drop down list

3. check the box with extract subcodes only!!!

4. leave the default location for the image file which would be in the vso/blindread directory. IMPORTANT!!! also leave the default name of the disc as the image name ex: UT2003_CD1.

5. make sure #1 NIBBLE is selected ***

6. check the box with adapt speed.

7. i wrote and read at 4x, thats the speed i recommend.

8. check the box with eject disk if you wish

at this point, it will begin to make the image. errors will occur at the end of the process, around 15 seconds remaining, dont be alarmed, its ok.

NEXT STEP IS TO MAKE A .BWA FILE

1. start bwabuilder application. (cannot be lauched thru the desktop icon, but rather by clicking start/all programs/blindwrite suite/physical cd characteristic dumper).

2. make sure the drive with the disk is selected, set for 4x, and the default 324800.

3. click start mesure, when complete if not given the option to save, click on file and save bwa.

4. !!!URGENT!!! when the process is complete, you will be given the opportunity to save the file, BE SURE TO NAME It THE SAME AS THE IMAGE ex: UT2003_CD1 and no extension because the application will give it the .bwa. ALSO IMPORTANT, the file has to be saved in the same directory where you save the image.

WRITE PROCESS, YOUR ALMOST DONE!!!

1. lauch blindwrite, turquios colored arrow pointing from HD to cdrom

2. click start cd writing wizard

3. be sure you writer is selected, on the information tab, blindwrite will give you information about you drive (max read speed, max write speed, etc) the application will not allow you alter any information under that tab.

4. click on advance. !!!URGENT!!! uncheck all the boxes except DAO pw-it should be the only one with a check mark next to it.

5. i am not sure if your drives characteristics matched mine. the max read, write, and suggested speed were at 48, the buffer size was set at 2048, with rewrite at 10. i would suggest going along with the default settings that blindwrite suggests!!!

6. locate the image. and click start, it will verify the image, simply click next when finish.

7. last step, make sure DAO pw mode is selected, at 4x, and that the box next to USE BWA FILE IF AVAILABLE IS CHECKED!!!!!!!!!! along with the other two boxes. CLICK GO. YOUR DONE.

Also, it is recommended that you run your copy from a cdrom or cdreader-not on writers. Dont ask me why, i read that on the net and for some reason, it's true. I tried running it on my writer and it would not start up, just spin. You might try to use insektor v3 from gameworld.

I hope this tutorial helped, I wish I could have came across something similar when I was trying to backup my disks. It could have same me alot of hours!!! If you need any additional tips or advice, feel free to email me at ppedrog321@cs.com

I think you misunderstood my origional question. The question is not how to make a backup of UT2003 but how to get the backup to both INSTALL and PLAY from a toshiba drive. Toshibas are known for being the best buy it looks like they don't like twin sectors.

The backups I made were installable cds from my burner but not installable from my toshiba. The game would eventually start to play in my toshiba but I couldn't get the game to install from it.

Tried everything, including twinpeaks .2 and that didn't work.

Thanks for your response but that is what I have done in the beginning.

Are you installing the game and running it from a toshiba drive. If you are I will try your settings, but they look like what I have done to begin with.

Have you tried the latest BW? Otherwise it's still no-go for installing from Plex, Tosh and ASUS

toshiba 6602b failed to install installed from my liteon then switched over into the toshiba 6602b and it worked after it was reading for about 4minutes...then i ejected the cd re installed the cd back into the toshiba and loaded in about 20 seconds....


I know that the toshiba cant install the game i just said i made a copy of hitman2 and the only way that it plays was install with liteon play on Toshiba for now it isnt possible to install on toshiba!!!! u got to wait like all of us!

RUNNING THE GAME IS NOT THE PROBLEM!!!!

INSTALLING THE GAME IS THE PROBLEM FOR TOSHIBAS!!!

Why the shouting? Everyone knows what your problem is and if you'd read fp's post you'd have seen that there probably isn't a good solution available at the moment (other than to make a non-bwa copy for installation purposes only as is, in fact, recommended by the blindwrite team anyway).

use the lite-on

i think he should read PEBKAC in futureproofs signature.

@jackal2001Pay attention. We know this. I'll say it againand follow slayerking's advice

Yes I tried the latest version of blindwrite (still a no go).

so it isn't possible to make 1:1 copy of UT using CCD 3x and lite-on for both reading and writing ? am i write ? the only way out - use BW ?
thanx and sorry, if the question is outdated

I don't think any prog will make a 1:1 copy, even bw.
it fools it.

Just and only BW at this stage

yeah, thanx, i have backed it up with BW already - nice job , guys !

I made a working back with a litey 32x and it plays fine in both of my toshiba dvd's and in a toshiba cd rom

jackal2001:

look around toshiba's website, a friend of mine has a tosh drive (cant rmember the model number) but he calimed he upgraded his firmware and when he upgraded it he was able to play securom images that use twin setors, so try and upgrade ur firms. better yet, ask markgray72 what firm he uses and what tosh models he used, he prolly has one of the good firmwares.

if there is no new firmware for ur drive or the firmware on there doesnt help with twin sectors, then the only way u can use a securom copied cd to install and play form the same cd is to use the autoplay function in blindwrite 4.2.7.

get blindwrite 4.2.7
go into blindwrite config and make sure autoplay is on
make sure u got a image made and a bwa file for it, and just burn it with blindwrite.
what autoplay does is it takes in the values from the bwa file, and stores it somewhere on the cd, well it's more complicated than that but im really simplifying things down, and it leaves the data in tact, when u install the game the game will install perfectly, when u run the game it emulates (haha i can see all those peeps cringe at that word, it really isnt that bad) the physical properties of the original disc by using the bwa data stored on the cd, as a result the cd verifys. its better to use emulation instead of the normal method in ur case as the data is left in tact and the picky toshiba will not report a crc error when u install. the only downside to this is u must have blindwrite installed on the machine u run it on. lapinou is making a small program that has the autoplay alone for free later on, so u wont need to install blindwrite on every machine u want to play it on u can use that autoplay standalone thingy instead. i burned ut2k3, lotr and nolf2 with the autoplay method and tested installation also it works perfectly, and authentication is as fast as originals.

also if u want to use the twin sector method on ur next cd then just disable autoplay form the bw configuration and it will use the old method.

blindwrite does NOT do a 1:1 of securom, plain and simple. when u buy hitman 2 it does not fail on install nor is there a bunch of twin sectors slapped on there. also when u buy ut2k3, it does not have stuff hidden on the cd that calls for autoplay whenever it runs. a true 1:1 of a securom game is when the copy not only contains the data from the store boguht, but it also has the actual physical properties that the store bought has. you should be able to take bwabuilder and make a CORRECT bwa file off a burnt cdr for it to be even close to 1:1 and a smooth curve is not correct, it should look like somethign that u would download from futureproof's bwa download sticky. all blindwrite does is fool the protection into thikning that this is a store bought game, by using either autoplay or twin sectors. and yes before someone says it, we prolly will not see cdrs with actual physical properties on the cd identical to the store boughts themselves for a long time. i am very aware of this and i know when the day comes when we can make/buy media of that type then im going for it. just use the autoplay method jackal and dont worry about it.

thanks fo the info but there is no firmware updates for my toshibas.

I wish they would get away from this autoplay junk and concentrate on a 1:1 solution.

It is easier to make a copy with no protection and use the no cd crack than go through all this, wasting cds, time, money, etc.

not really, it's pretty easy to do, but yeah it could be easier.
btw, cracks suck.

Hi,

I also CANNOT install but i didn't try with 4.2.7

Is this VERY NEW in this 4.2.7 ? (not in 4.2.6 ?)

My mistake,


it was version 4.2.5


It is working since 4.2.6 also on my Tosh (it was Friday 13th. 2002 when it starts to work )

hehe spooky :P

Hey mf666.

Which Tosh are you running? I have a Tosh 1612 (FW 1004). Had problems with earlier Blindwrite Suite versions and Securom NEW. Maybe it's time to give it another shot with version 4.2.8.28?

I successfully installed Hitman2 from my Tosh 1712, and it runs from it, same disc.

Used BW 4.2.5 (4.2.8-9 do NOT work)

WinXP
Blindwrite 4.2.5
Plex 24/10/40a

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