Sims Superstar Safedisc 2.9 - Club CDFreaks

*iss* · 15-05-2003

just bought sims superstar for my wife and daughter. clony says it is safedisc 2.9 on the play disc. used alcohol (latest version ) to make a copy of the play disc using the safedisc 2 profile in alcohol the game seemed to copy fine. but if you try to play it using the back up copy once you click play you get a notice that says that the game has encountered a problem and will now close.( the game plays fine with the original disc though) I have never had a problem backing up games that were safedisc 2.8 but this is the first safedisc 2.9 game I have tried backing up.

any idea's?

Reader- toshiba 1612
Burner Lite On 48246S

Smabbage · 15-05-2003

With each new revision of SD 2.9 comes a new blacklist to counter programs like Alcohol etc. I had the same problem when I updated Harbinger. The exe looked on the system to see if Alcohol or Clone were installed and when it found them, Harbinger refused to load. Although, after looking at your post, you might have a program incompatibilty problem. When Harbinger refused to load it just kept telling me to put in the "play" disc. What you are encountering sounds more like a windows system error.

*iss* · 15-05-2003

if it was just a windows system error wouldnt that also keep the original retail disc from playing as well? the error is in the "sims exe." the original retail disc plays just fine. I have tried three times no to backup the disc with alcohol and none of the copies worked all do the same thing.

*iss* · 16-05-2003

ok here is the weird part. the copy of the game wont run in my kids machine from the DVD rom (toshiba 1502) but it does work from the lite on 32X burner. the same back up copy works fine in my wifes machine from the DVD rom ( toshiba 1612)

*Namoh* · 16-05-2003

Is it version: 2.90.040 or is it a new version?

*Lvsitano* · 16-05-2003

Quote:

ok here is the weird part. the copy of the game wont run in my kids machine from the DVD rom (toshiba 1502)

Most Toshiba drives are crap readers. You must run the game from the installation drive. If you want to run the game from the DVD drive you must install it first from the DVD drive.

maximino72 · 16-05-2003

I don't think that Toshiba drives are bad readers, it may be that the copy isn't perfect so in the Toshiba sdm 1502 it refuses to run... it's also true that securom protected games (4.8x) after patching with twinpeak aren't installed with the toshiba but it may be that they are too good readers (IMHO)

Greetings.

wakemonkeypimp · 16-05-2003

here is my suggestion....try reading/writing from your liteon...and see what happens...all at 8x...just for a hoot...

if that doesnt work then try a little of Alcohol's emulation????????

trial and error

*iss* · 16-05-2003

Namoh,

Clony just says safedisc 2.9 but yates shows safedisc 2.90.40

Vio man,

The game was installed from the DVD rom drive. and from the original retail discs.

wakemonkeypimp,

thanks for the suggestion I was considering just that. the burns I did before were at max and were an average of 29X according to what alcohol showed.

maybe its some glitch with the kids machine because the results are the opposite of what you would normally expect. it wont play from the DVD drive but it will play from the CD RW.

*Namoh* · 21-05-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by iss
Namoh,

Clony just says safedisc 2.9 but yates shows safedisc 2.90.40

All right. So it's the common used version.

*Shoebedobedoo* · 22-05-2003

Open Alcohol 120 and go to general>options>reading and set the starting advanced sector scanner after to 2 and default A.S.S jumper to 150. When you read the image, read from your dvd\cd-rom and select skip read errors, fast skip error blocks and advanced sector scanning. Burn the image RAO DAO. I backed this game with a Litey LTD 165H (as reader) and Polaroid BurnMAX48x with the settings I posted and my backups play in both drives flawlessly.

Shoey

**philamber** · 22-05-2003

Nice to know it worked for you Shoey but ASS isn't necessary for sd 2.9.

The errors in sd 2.9 aren't consecutive so ASS would never have activated during the dumping process.

*gene_simmons* · 28-05-2003

Hi Shoebedobedoo ,just a thought:have you done any working back-up without ASS activated?/gs.

Ochaye · 30-05-2003

Can someone please tell me what the HELL I am doing wrong.

I have a LG GCE-8160B and I have tried backing up Superstar with Alcohol 120% 1.4.3.518 every which way I have read on this site and the Alcohol site but I am not able to get a 1:1 running copy.

Is there a technique to backing this game up with my drive or am I just going nuts ?????

**philamber** · 30-05-2003

Probably neither. It's becoming increasingly apparent that not all writers recognised as 2 sheep efm burners can successfully copy sd 2.9 protected cds.

The great old favourite Lite-on Ltr-24102B does not appear able to do so (certainly it cannot do so with 5s5a firmware) and, in fact, I've yet to see a post of a successful copy of a sd 2.9 protected cd with a Lite-on < 40x.

It may simply be that your writer can't handle this new safedisc version.

*Shoebedobedoo* · 01-06-2003

Quote:

Hi Shoebedobedoo ,just a thought:have you done any working back-up without ASS activated?/gs.

The answer is yes m8. I backed up The Sims Superstar with an LG GCE 0824b(1 sheep burner) using Alcohol 120 1.4.3.518. I read the image with my LG (datatype Safedisc 2 profile) and burned RAO DAO at max and my backup plays in my burner like a charm.

Shoey

*gene_simmons* · 01-06-2003

2 Shoebedobedoo:keul!and my congrats./gs.

dragoneyez · 16-07-2003

Help! Please! I am using alcohol 1.4.3 ( Build 518 ) with LITE-ON LTR-48246S & OPTORITE DVD RW DD0203 and have been unsuccessful in getting a working copy when trying to burn and read with either unit. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas for me, I am new to using alcohol. I keep getting alot of errors like this
22:21:40 Disc read error at: 809
22:21:44 Disc read error at: 820
22:21:47 Disc read error at: 836
22:21:51 Disc read error at: 848
22:21:53 Disc read error at: 863
22:21:56 Disc read error at: 875
22:22:00 Disc read error at: 910
22:22:03 Disc read error at: 921
22:22:07 Disc read error at: 944
22:22:08 Disc read error at: 949
22:22:12 Disc read error at: 960
are these normal or what? Please help!

**philamber** · 16-07-2003

Yes, read errors between ~sector 800 and ~sector 10,500 are normal with safedisc protected cds. It's the major part of the protection.

To copy this game with your rig, read and write with your Litey either using the safedisc 2 datatype settings but with Bypass efm error unchecked or just use the safedisc 1 settings.

Note: if playing the back-up copy from a writer rather than an ordinary cd/dvd rom, Ignore media type must be enabled.

*Chriso* · 16-07-2003

iss,

Have you made sure that Bypass EFM Error is Disabled?

15-05-2003	#1 (permalink)
iss CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 975	Sims Superstar Safedisc 2.9 just bought sims superstar for my wife and daughter. clony says it is safedisc 2.9 on the play disc. used alcohol (latest version ) to make a copy of the play disc using the safedisc 2 profile in alcohol the game seemed to copy fine. but if you try to play it using the back up copy once you click play you get a notice that says that the game has encountered a problem and will now close.( the game plays fine with the original disc though) I have never had a problem backing up games that were safedisc 2.8 but this is the first safedisc 2.9 game I have tried backing up. any idea's? Reader- toshiba 1612 Burner Lite On 48246S

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Namoh CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Somewhere in space Posts: 6,286	Is it version: 2.90.040 or is it a new version? __________________ When you're little, what you really want is for grown-ups to make the world a safe place where dreams can come true and promises are never broken. And when you're little, it doesn't seem like a lot to ask. Women might be able to fake orgasms. But men can fake whole relationships. New rig: Antec P182 Super Mid Tower, Intel Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz @ 3.0Ghz, Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme, Kingston 4Gb 1066Mhz dual channel, MSI NX8800GTX OC Edition 768 MB, 4 x 500 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10, Asus DRW-1814BLT DVD-RW, NEC AD-7173S DVD-RW, NEC 3,5" diskdrive, Logitech X-540 speakers, Samsung TFT SyncMaster 245B, Creative X-Fi Xtreme Gamer, Be Quiet Dark Power Pro 850Watt, dual boot Windows XP SP2 and Windows Vista.

16-05-2003	#7 (permalink)
maximino72 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 362	Toshiba drives I don't think that Toshiba drives are bad readers, it may be that the copy isn't perfect so in the Toshiba sdm 1502 it refuses to run... it's also true that securom protected games (4.8x) after patching with twinpeak aren't installed with the toshiba but it may be that they are too good readers (IMHO) Greetings. __________________ Massimo

22-05-2003	#11 (permalink)
Shoebedobedoo CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: USA, Central Ohio Posts: 568	Alcohol 120 latest build conquers Safedisc 2.9.x Open Alcohol 120 and go to general>options>reading and set the starting advanced sector scanner after to 2 and default A.S.S jumper to 150. When you read the image, read from your dvd\cd-rom and select skip read errors, fast skip error blocks and advanced sector scanning. Burn the image RAO DAO. I backed this game with a Litey LTD 165H (as reader) and Polaroid BurnMAX48x with the settings I posted and my backups play in both drives flawlessly. Shoey __________________ Asus K8N Athlon 64 3200+ Corsair XMS 1 gig PC4000 ATI Radeon 9600 Pro XT (256 DDR) HD: Hitachi 80 gig SATA\150 DVD-ROM1: Lite-ON SOHD 167T BenQ 1640 Firmware BSMB(QSuite 2.1) Plextor PX-712SA TLA# 0105A Firmware 1.08

22-05-2003	#12 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,843	Nice to know it worked for you Shoey but ASS isn't necessary for sd 2.9. The errors in sd 2.9 aren't consecutive so ASS would never have activated during the dumping process. __________________ ¿?¤»~Hôw Çåñ ï mï§§ ¥ôü ïf ¥ôü wôñ'± gô åwå¥~»¤¿?

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15-05-2003	#2 (permalink)
Smabbage CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Lost in Arkansas Posts: 184	With each new revision of SD 2.9 comes a new blacklist to counter programs like Alcohol etc. I had the same problem when I updated Harbinger. The exe looked on the system to see if Alcohol or Clone were installed and when it found them, Harbinger refused to load. Although, after looking at your post, you might have a program incompatibilty problem. When Harbinger refused to load it just kept telling me to put in the "play" disc. What you are encountering sounds more like a windows system error.

15-05-2003	#3 (permalink)
iss CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 975	if it was just a windows system error wouldnt that also keep the original retail disc from playing as well? the error is in the "sims exe." the original retail disc plays just fine. I have tried three times no to backup the disc with alcohol and none of the copies worked all do the same thing.

16-05-2003	#4 (permalink)
iss CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 975	ok here is the weird part. the copy of the game wont run in my kids machine from the DVD rom (toshiba 1502) but it does work from the lite on 32X burner. the same back up copy works fine in my wifes machine from the DVD rom ( toshiba 1612)

16-05-2003	#8 (permalink)
wakemonkeypimp CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: pimpin in Tampa, Fl Posts: 407	here is my suggestion....try reading/writing from your liteon...and see what happens...all at 8x...just for a hoot... if that doesnt work then try a little of Alcohol's emulation???????? trial and error

16-05-2003	#9 (permalink)
iss CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 975	Namoh, Clony just says safedisc 2.9 but yates shows safedisc 2.90.40 Vio man, The game was installed from the DVD rom drive. and from the original retail discs. wakemonkeypimp, thanks for the suggestion I was considering just that. the burns I did before were at max and were an average of 29X according to what alcohol showed. maybe its some glitch with the kids machine because the results are the opposite of what you would normally expect. it wont play from the DVD drive but it will play from the CD RW.

28-05-2003	#13 (permalink)
gene_simmons CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Urdibuntu Posts: 995	Hi Shoebedobedoo ,just a thought:have you done any working back-up without ASS activated?/gs.

30-05-2003	#14 (permalink)
Ochaye New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6	I am Totally Stumped !!!!! Can someone please tell me what the HELL I am doing wrong. I have a LG GCE-8160B and I have tried backing up Superstar with Alcohol 120% 1.4.3.518 every which way I have read on this site and the Alcohol site but I am not able to get a 1:1 running copy. Is there a technique to backing this game up with my drive or am I just going nuts ?????

30-05-2003	#15 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,843	Probably neither. It's becoming increasingly apparent that not all writers recognised as 2 sheep efm burners can successfully copy sd 2.9 protected cds. The great old favourite Lite-on Ltr-24102B does not appear able to do so (certainly it cannot do so with 5s5a firmware) and, in fact, I've yet to see a post of a successful copy of a sd 2.9 protected cd with a Lite-on < 40x. It may simply be that your writer can't handle this new safedisc version. __________________ ¿?¤»~Hôw Çåñ ï mï§§ ¥ôü ïf ¥ôü wôñ'± gô åwå¥~»¤¿?

01-06-2003	#17 (permalink)
gene_simmons CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Urdibuntu Posts: 995	2 Shoebedobedoo:keul!and my congrats./gs.

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16-07-2003	#18 (permalink)
dragoneyez New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1	Help! Please! I am using alcohol 1.4.3 ( Build 518 ) with LITE-ON LTR-48246S & OPTORITE DVD RW DD0203 and have been unsuccessful in getting a working copy when trying to burn and read with either unit. Does anyone have any suggestions or ideas for me, I am new to using alcohol. I keep getting alot of errors like this 22:21:40 Disc read error at: 809 22:21:44 Disc read error at: 820 22:21:47 Disc read error at: 836 22:21:51 Disc read error at: 848 22:21:53 Disc read error at: 863 22:21:56 Disc read error at: 875 22:22:00 Disc read error at: 910 22:22:03 Disc read error at: 921 22:22:07 Disc read error at: 944 22:22:08 Disc read error at: 949 22:22:12 Disc read error at: 960 are these normal or what? Please help!

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philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,843	Yes, read errors between ~sector 800 and ~sector 10,500 are normal with safedisc protected cds. It's the major part of the protection. To copy this game with your rig, read and write with your Litey either using the safedisc 2 datatype settings but with Bypass efm error unchecked or just use the safedisc 1 settings. Note: if playing the back-up copy from a writer rather than an ordinary cd/dvd rom, Ignore media type must be enabled. __________________ ¿?¤»~Hôw Çåñ ï mï§§ ¥ôü ïf ¥ôü wôñ'± gô åwå¥~»¤¿?