Safedisc backup with Alcohol - Club CDFreaks

blammo585 · 24-01-2004

I'm having a problem getting a working backup of Nascar Thunder 2003 with Alcohol. The game has Safedisc 2.8.?? so I used the Safedisc 2/3 setting of Alcohol. The disc seems to copy fine, but when I insert the backup CD a message pops up asking me to reinsert the CD and restart the application (or something to that effect). I'm using version 1.4.8 of Alcohol, and my burner is a Lite-On 32x. I tried BlindWrite 5.??? and the backup worked as far as playing the game, but I uninstalled the original and tried reinstalling using the backup and it would get to 8% and a message would pop up asking me if I was sure I wanted to abort set up...even though I hadn't hit anything. It did that every time. What am I doing wrong? Can Alcohol or BlindWrite backup this game and use it for installing, too?

*CD 1986* · 24-01-2004

Backup with a lite-on 32x cd-rw should work, so try this:

- firstly, have you enabled hide cd-r media in the alcohol emulation tab? You will need this if you are playing the backup from a burner

- secondly, try reading and writing the image at 4x speed instead of Max. Also, use the safedisc profile rather than the safedisc 2/3, since the latter is used in conjuction with burners that do not support correct EFM writing. The lite-on 32x should write EFM correctly.

This should work, but if not post back your results

blammo585 · 24-01-2004

I backed-up the game using the Safedisc setting instead of Safedisc 2/3. This time the backup worked for running the game, with the installation from the original CD. However I tried installing the game using the backup and still end up with the same problem. This time it gets to 6% and asks me to put in Disc 2. There is no Disc 2. Am I to assume this game can be backed up to run the game as long as the install is done with the original CD, or is it some way possible to get the backup to play and install just as well as the original?

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 24-01-2004

Make a backup of the CD as a normal CD with Nero or something. people have had trouble installing games from a SecuROM disc(me being one of them), so make 2 copies for the disc, one for installing and one for playing.

*CD 1986* · 25-01-2004

@ blammo585

thats strange, you shouldnt need 2 copies for a safedisc backup. What cd-r media are you using? Also, what ide drivers do you have installed because they can cause games not to work (especially nvidia).

blammo585 · 25-01-2004

I've been using a Lite-On CD-RW. I figured I'd use CD-RW until I got a working copy.

*$CyBeRwIz$* · 26-01-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by CD 1986
@ blammo585

thats strange, you shouldnt need 2 copies for a safedisc backup. What cd-r media are you using? Also, what ide drivers do you have installed because they can cause games not to work (especially nvidia).

No you shouldn't need to, but since it has happened with SecuROM games he could give it a shot. It could also be a bad image.

24-01-2004	#1 (permalink)
blammo585 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4	Safedisc backup with Alcohol <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I'm having a problem getting a working backup of Nascar Thunder 2003 with Alcohol. The game has Safedisc 2.8.?? so I used the Safedisc 2/3 setting of Alcohol. The disc seems to copy fine, but when I insert the backup CD a message pops up asking me to reinsert the CD and restart the application (or something to that effect). I'm using version 1.4.8 of Alcohol, and my burner is a Lite-On 32x. I tried BlindWrite 5.??? and the backup worked as far as playing the game, but I uninstalled the original and tried reinstalling using the backup and it would get to 8% and a message would pop up asking me if I was sure I wanted to abort set up...even though I hadn't hit anything. It did that every time. What am I doing wrong? Can Alcohol or BlindWrite backup this game and use it for installing, too?

24-01-2004	#3 (permalink)
blammo585 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4	Retried burning with Alcohol I backed-up the game using the Safedisc setting instead of Safedisc 2/3. This time the backup worked for running the game, with the installation from the original CD. However I tried installing the game using the backup and still end up with the same problem. This time it gets to 6% and asks me to put in Disc 2. There is no Disc 2. Am I to assume this game can be backed up to run the game as long as the install is done with the original CD, or is it some way possible to get the backup to play and install just as well as the original?

24-01-2004	#4 (permalink)
$CyBeRwIz$ CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: True Blue, aka Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,254	Make a backup of the CD as a normal CD with Nero or something. people have had trouble installing games from a SecuROM disc(me being one of them), so make 2 copies for the disc, one for installing and one for playing. __________________ Author of The CD Freaks Offline Help doing version 2 code rewrites. Enjoy version 1. Version 1 is now released! You can get it here. In it you can learn about SafeDisc, SecuROM and heaps of other protections and learn on how to defeat them. Also you can take a look at some of my various tutorials in it and some frequently asked questions asked. Plus heaps more! Enjoy!

25-01-2004	#6 (permalink)
blammo585 New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 4	Media Type I've been using a Lite-On CD-RW. I figured I'd use CD-RW until I got a working copy.

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24-01-2004	#2 (permalink)
CD 1986 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: UK Posts: 801	Backup with a lite-on 32x cd-rw should work, so try this: - firstly, have you enabled hide cd-r media in the alcohol emulation tab? You will need this if you are playing the backup from a burner - secondly, try reading and writing the image at 4x speed instead of Max. Also, use the safedisc profile rather than the safedisc 2/3, since the latter is used in conjuction with burners that do not support correct EFM writing. The lite-on 32x should write EFM correctly. This should work, but if not post back your results

25-01-2004	#5 (permalink)
CD 1986 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: UK Posts: 801	@ blammo585 thats strange, you shouldnt need 2 copies for a safedisc backup. What cd-r media are you using? Also, what ide drivers do you have installed because they can cause games not to work (especially nvidia).