Republic: The Revolution (Securom 4.84.84.0052) problems - Club CDFreaks

ProfessorX · 07-09-2003

Is anybody having trouble backing up their original of this one ? I've tried Alcohol (albeit v1.4.2) and Blindwrite (v4.5.2.72) without sucess, with a Liteon based burner (Uranus 52x24x52x).
Securom hasn't posed a problem up till now

However, from my limited testing, the blindwrite image, mounted with DT passes the cd check.

I've also tried running from a dvd drive with the same results. Looks like Securom is getting perfected (surprise, surprise)

*giovanni42104* · 07-09-2003

profess,

I used blindwrite not on that game but same protection to back up my games ... if you want you can message me on msn to help ya

msn messenger

just IM me or message me

giovanni40220@msn.com

i would like to know the burner model and what error your getting and some more info then iti s not doing right hehe

ProfessorX · 08-09-2003

the burner model is CDR-6S52 with firmware 6SG1 (clone of the LTR - 52246S).
I have just tried with blindwrite 4.5.7.92 with no change in the results.
Also, the Alcohol emulation failed (unlike DT, v3.33)

*giovanni42104* · 08-09-2003

hmmmmmmmmmm ... okay your burner if i am correct can do the latest securom ...

what does your verify screen look like ? cause i wonder if image is good at all at first ?

also when your in blindwread you just have autoplay checked ...and then burn at what speed ? max ? dao pw ?

also blindread do you extra subcodes and dont ...most of the time with higher protection you dont have too .. i do just incase ... also nibble and 1x to max ? how does the bwafile look ?

ProfessorX · 08-09-2003

well, the image must be pretty good 'cos the game ran with DT and RMPS emulation.
blindwrite autoplay was used, burned at 12x onto cdrw, dao pw.
I'll update the firmware and try again...

Have you (or anyone else) actually successfully backed up Republic then??

*giovanni42104* · 08-09-2003

well image cant be too good if you have to use rmps emulation to get it going ...

I dont have that game but I have several games with that copy protection that i have backuped ..

well I see there is till no verify screen ... do you have log of what it did ? and also where are you getting your bwa ? is it smooth ? well just message me via msn messenger ...

securom is not hard if you hav ethe right bwa and right settings in blindwrite ...specially if you have done all of them before ...what isthe error your getting is it in the install or playing the game

ProfessorX · 08-09-2003

ok, let me put it this way, I think that this version of Securom is different from it's predecessors. There is a significant cd check perfomed (disc one, check only done when playing).
You'll have to get hold of an original t o see exactly what I mean.

**philamber** · 08-09-2003

The very latest versions of securom have new blacklistings of alcohol's virtual drive and, possibly, RMPS emulation. This is expected to be overcome with the next alcohol release.

In the meantime, twinpeak copies are still reported to work as are plex premium blindwrite copies.

*giovanni42104* · 08-09-2003

phil ... .

your the man ..I jsut told him the same exact thing in message ..he message me on msn ..lol ..just was good to see you said same thing as me ..cause not sure if he really believed me or not ..plus gave him the bwa i use to make my back up ... hehhe

i told him to turn off virtual drives and take off clone cause of blacklisting hehhee

just glad to see that come up at right time ....

thanks again phil ..

he is going to see if he can get it working now ...

ProfessorX · 08-09-2003

success!!!
updated the firmware to 6SG5, and burned again with blindwrite. Works with Alcohol virtual drive present as well.

Phew, I was getting worried for a moment...

i'll try with Alcohol again in mo...

*giovanni42104* · 08-09-2003

woohoo good job professor

your welcome ..glad i could have helped ... remember protection is actually a four letter word lmao hehhe

ProfessorX · 08-09-2003

Alcohol burn ok as well now.
cheers giovanni

Parker · 08-09-2003

what about a nice plex premium to make a 1:1 backup of that damned securom 4.8x?
I have one and works nice

ProfessorX · 15-09-2003

arrgghhh...I tried to run the backup just now and I'm back to the same problem! Anyone else had this kind of problems???

*giovanni42104* · 15-09-2003

you made backup with autoplay correct ? blindwrite needs to be installed or autoplay client setup

PaoLon · 18-09-2003

lite 32x12x40
bwa build 4.5.7 latest (read 2x) = success

420 · 23-09-2003

I'm about to get to work on this one now but I doubt I'll have much luck. Got another SecuROM *new* 4.84.84.x game that I have tried to burn with everything and to no avail. Image works fine though when loaded in DT. :/

*giovanni42104* · 23-09-2003

what type of burner 420 ? what kind of cd roms do u have ?

ProfessorX · 23-09-2003

i'm not alone then....phew, but still

420 · 24-09-2003

giovanni42104-

Using an LG 8520B with the latest firmware to rip and burn m8. It works great for up to SD 2.8 and SecuROM 4.84.81.x but I have had no luck on SD 2.9 and SecuROM 4.84.84.x I'd like to think it's as simple as a blacklist on one of the apps I'm using but I can run the images off Daemon Tools v3.33 and the games work fine ... when burned to CD though, no luck.

The games I'm stuck on atm are:

- Republic: The Revolution - SecuROM 4.84.84.x
- The Temple of Elemental Evil - SecuROM 4.84.84.x
- Devastation - SafeDisc 2.9

and there's one other SD 2.9 title that I can't recall the title of.

btw ... Republic I can't even run off the original so I'm gonna have to work with ToEE and if I get a working method for that, will simply use the same for Republic.

**philamber** · 24-09-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by 420
btw ... Republic I can't even run off the original so I'm gonna have to work with ToEE and if I get a working method for that, will simply use the same for Republic.

If you can't run the game from the original, you've got no chance with a copy.

420 · 24-09-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by philamber
If you can't run the game from the original, you've got no chance with a copy.

hehe of course. In the case of that game, here's the deal ...

From the original and the Alcohol image, I get the first loading screen then it starts to go to full-screen and closes itself. With the other images (BW and TwinPeaked CCD image), it fails on the first screen. So I think that shows there's at least hope with Alcohol for me. (or maybe I'm just in denial)

Now as for ToEE ... if it runs off the image but not off a burned backup, what can I assume are the possibilities? Obviously not a blacklist on installed apps and can't be a blacklist on RMPS either the way I see it.

**philamber** · 24-09-2003

@ 420

Do you have ccd's virtual drive on your system? If so, it may well be the source of your problems.

It's blacklisted by all the most recent versions of securom and does not need to be active for the blacklist to work.

To get rid of it but keep ccd, just uninstall ccd and then do a custom re-install without the virtual drive component.

clemento · 24-09-2003

The version of Securom that is used on Republic has blacklisted Alcohol. They are saying a new release is due soon and the blacklist problem will be fixed

*giovanni42104* · 24-09-2003

blacklisted hahhah they said they would fix it wow i would be shocked if they did .... but stranger things have happened ...

07-09-2003	#1 (permalink)
ProfessorX CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 179	Republic: The Revolution (Securom 4.84.84.0052) problems Is anybody having trouble backing up their original of this one ? I've tried Alcohol (albeit v1.4.2) and Blindwrite (v4.5.2.72) without sucess, with a Liteon based burner (Uranus 52x24x52x). Securom hasn't posed a problem up till now However, from my limited testing, the blindwrite image, mounted with DT passes the cd check. I've also tried running from a dvd drive with the same results. Looks like Securom is getting perfected (surprise, surprise)

07-09-2003	#2 (permalink)
giovanni42104 Blindwrite Team member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,017	profess, I used blindwrite not on that game but same protection to back up my games ... if you want you can message me on msn to help ya msn messenger just IM me or message me giovanni40220@msn.com i would like to know the burner model and what error your getting and some more info then iti s not doing right hehe __________________ If you need further assistance or questions feel free to add me as contact and shoot me a message or email me on msn at giovanni40220@msn.com. Also if you look in profile i have other ways to get ahold of me...cheers system specs : motherboard - ga-7n400 pro 2 nforce2 chipset, 1.67 amd processor, 512 ddr ram, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 video card (using modified drivers 44.65), tdk IndiDVD 440n dvd burner (dvd burner firmware -1.05), memorex 52x24x52 2452J (cd burner, with firmware: 6WS6), plextor premium cd burner (firmare: 1.05), tdk 5200b cd burner (firmware: lastest)

08-09-2003	#3 (permalink)
ProfessorX CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 179	the burner model is CDR-6S52 with firmware 6SG1 (clone of the LTR - 52246S). I have just tried with blindwrite 4.5.7.92 with no change in the results. Also, the Alcohol emulation failed (unlike DT, v3.33) Last edited by ProfessorX; 08-09-2003 at 00:33.

08-09-2003	#4 (permalink)
giovanni42104 Blindwrite Team member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,017	hmmmmmmmmmm ... okay your burner if i am correct can do the latest securom ... what does your verify screen look like ? cause i wonder if image is good at all at first ? also when your in blindwread you just have autoplay checked ...and then burn at what speed ? max ? dao pw ? also blindread do you extra subcodes and dont ...most of the time with higher protection you dont have too .. i do just incase ... also nibble and 1x to max ? how does the bwafile look ? __________________ If you need further assistance or questions feel free to add me as contact and shoot me a message or email me on msn at giovanni40220@msn.com. Also if you look in profile i have other ways to get ahold of me...cheers system specs : motherboard - ga-7n400 pro 2 nforce2 chipset, 1.67 amd processor, 512 ddr ram, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 video card (using modified drivers 44.65), tdk IndiDVD 440n dvd burner (dvd burner firmware -1.05), memorex 52x24x52 2452J (cd burner, with firmware: 6WS6), plextor premium cd burner (firmare: 1.05), tdk 5200b cd burner (firmware: lastest)

08-09-2003	#6 (permalink)
giovanni42104 Blindwrite Team member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,017	well image cant be too good if you have to use rmps emulation to get it going ... I dont have that game but I have several games with that copy protection that i have backuped .. well I see there is till no verify screen ... do you have log of what it did ? and also where are you getting your bwa ? is it smooth ? well just message me via msn messenger ... securom is not hard if you hav ethe right bwa and right settings in blindwrite ...specially if you have done all of them before ...what isthe error your getting is it in the install or playing the game __________________ If you need further assistance or questions feel free to add me as contact and shoot me a message or email me on msn at giovanni40220@msn.com. Also if you look in profile i have other ways to get ahold of me...cheers system specs : motherboard - ga-7n400 pro 2 nforce2 chipset, 1.67 amd processor, 512 ddr ram, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 video card (using modified drivers 44.65), tdk IndiDVD 440n dvd burner (dvd burner firmware -1.05), memorex 52x24x52 2452J (cd burner, with firmware: 6WS6), plextor premium cd burner (firmare: 1.05), tdk 5200b cd burner (firmware: lastest)

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08-09-2003	#5 (permalink)
ProfessorX CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 179	well, the image must be pretty good 'cos the game ran with DT and RMPS emulation. blindwrite autoplay was used, burned at 12x onto cdrw, dao pw. I'll update the firmware and try again... Have you (or anyone else) actually successfully backed up Republic then??

08-09-2003	#7 (permalink)
ProfessorX CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 179	ok, let me put it this way, I think that this version of Securom is different from it's predecessors. There is a significant cd check perfomed (disc one, check only done when playing). You'll have to get hold of an original t o see exactly what I mean.

08-09-2003	#8 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,843	The very latest versions of securom have new blacklistings of alcohol's virtual drive and, possibly, RMPS emulation. This is expected to be overcome with the next alcohol release. In the meantime, twinpeak copies are still reported to work as are plex premium blindwrite copies. __________________ ¿?¤»~Hôw Çåñ ï mï§§ ¥ôü ïf ¥ôü wôñ'± gô åwå¥~»¤¿?

08-09-2003	#9 (permalink)
giovanni42104 Blindwrite Team member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,017	phil ... . your the man ..I jsut told him the same exact thing in message ..he message me on msn ..lol ..just was good to see you said same thing as me ..cause not sure if he really believed me or not ..plus gave him the bwa i use to make my back up ... hehhe i told him to turn off virtual drives and take off clone cause of blacklisting hehhee just glad to see that come up at right time .... thanks again phil .. he is going to see if he can get it working now ... __________________ If you need further assistance or questions feel free to add me as contact and shoot me a message or email me on msn at giovanni40220@msn.com. Also if you look in profile i have other ways to get ahold of me...cheers system specs : motherboard - ga-7n400 pro 2 nforce2 chipset, 1.67 amd processor, 512 ddr ram, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 video card (using modified drivers 44.65), tdk IndiDVD 440n dvd burner (dvd burner firmware -1.05), memorex 52x24x52 2452J (cd burner, with firmware: 6WS6), plextor premium cd burner (firmare: 1.05), tdk 5200b cd burner (firmware: lastest)

08-09-2003	#10 (permalink)
ProfessorX CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 179	success!!! updated the firmware to 6SG5, and burned again with blindwrite. Works with Alcohol virtual drive present as well. Phew, I was getting worried for a moment... i'll try with Alcohol again in mo...

08-09-2003	#11 (permalink)
giovanni42104 Blindwrite Team member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,017	woohoo good job professor your welcome ..glad i could have helped ... remember protection is actually a four letter word lmao hehhe __________________ If you need further assistance or questions feel free to add me as contact and shoot me a message or email me on msn at giovanni40220@msn.com. Also if you look in profile i have other ways to get ahold of me...cheers system specs : motherboard - ga-7n400 pro 2 nforce2 chipset, 1.67 amd processor, 512 ddr ram, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 video card (using modified drivers 44.65), tdk IndiDVD 440n dvd burner (dvd burner firmware -1.05), memorex 52x24x52 2452J (cd burner, with firmware: 6WS6), plextor premium cd burner (firmare: 1.05), tdk 5200b cd burner (firmware: lastest)

08-09-2003	#12 (permalink)
ProfessorX CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 179	Alcohol burn ok as well now. cheers giovanni

08-09-2003	#13 (permalink)
Parker CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 390	what about a nice plex premium to make a 1:1 backup of that damned securom 4.8x? I have one and works nice __________________ This is some of my little number of devices to test backups -Plexwriter 8/20 TLA#0403 -Plexwriter 8/2/20 TLA#0101 -Plexwriter Premium TLA #0000 -Plexwriter 12/10/32S TLA #0103 -ASUS CRW-5224A FW 1.1 -AOPEN CRW-5232 FW 1.05 -Ultraplex 40x -Ultraplex 32x -Plex 12/20 -Toshiba sdm-1401 SCSI -Toshiba sdm-1402 IDE -Toshiba sdm-1612 IDE -Plextor DVDR PX-716A TLA #0307 -Liteon ltd165h -LG GSA-4040b A303 -LG GSA-4082B A204

15-09-2003	#14 (permalink)
ProfessorX CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 179	arrgghhh...I tried to run the backup just now and I'm back to the same problem! Anyone else had this kind of problems???

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15-09-2003	#15 (permalink)
giovanni42104 Blindwrite Team member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,017	you made backup with autoplay correct ? blindwrite needs to be installed or autoplay client setup __________________ If you need further assistance or questions feel free to add me as contact and shoot me a message or email me on msn at giovanni40220@msn.com. Also if you look in profile i have other ways to get ahold of me...cheers system specs : motherboard - ga-7n400 pro 2 nforce2 chipset, 1.67 amd processor, 512 ddr ram, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 video card (using modified drivers 44.65), tdk IndiDVD 440n dvd burner (dvd burner firmware -1.05), memorex 52x24x52 2452J (cd burner, with firmware: 6WS6), plextor premium cd burner (firmare: 1.05), tdk 5200b cd burner (firmware: lastest)

18-09-2003	#16 (permalink)
PaoLon CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 49	lite 32x12x40 bwa build 4.5.7 latest (read 2x) = success

23-09-2003	#17 (permalink)
420 New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 26	I'm about to get to work on this one now but I doubt I'll have much luck. Got another SecuROM new 4.84.84.x game that I have tried to burn with everything and to no avail. Image works fine though when loaded in DT. :/

23-09-2003	#18 (permalink)
giovanni42104 Blindwrite Team member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,017	what type of burner 420 ? what kind of cd roms do u have ? __________________ If you need further assistance or questions feel free to add me as contact and shoot me a message or email me on msn at giovanni40220@msn.com. Also if you look in profile i have other ways to get ahold of me...cheers system specs : motherboard - ga-7n400 pro 2 nforce2 chipset, 1.67 amd processor, 512 ddr ram, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 video card (using modified drivers 44.65), tdk IndiDVD 440n dvd burner (dvd burner firmware -1.05), memorex 52x24x52 2452J (cd burner, with firmware: 6WS6), plextor premium cd burner (firmare: 1.05), tdk 5200b cd burner (firmware: lastest)

23-09-2003	#19 (permalink)
ProfessorX CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: UK Posts: 179	i'm not alone then....phew, but still

24-09-2003	#20 (permalink)
420 New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 26	giovanni42104- Using an LG 8520B with the latest firmware to rip and burn m8. It works great for up to SD 2.8 and SecuROM 4.84.81.x but I have had no luck on SD 2.9 and SecuROM 4.84.84.x I'd like to think it's as simple as a blacklist on one of the apps I'm using but I can run the images off Daemon Tools v3.33 and the games work fine ... when burned to CD though, no luck. The games I'm stuck on atm are: - Republic: The Revolution - SecuROM 4.84.84.x - The Temple of Elemental Evil - SecuROM 4.84.84.x - Devastation - SafeDisc 2.9 and there's one other SD 2.9 title that I can't recall the title of. btw ... Republic I can't even run off the original so I'm gonna have to work with ToEE and if I get a working method for that, will simply use the same for Republic.

24-09-2003	#23 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,843	@ 420 Do you have ccd's virtual drive on your system? If so, it may well be the source of your problems. It's blacklisted by all the most recent versions of securom and does not need to be active for the blacklist to work. To get rid of it but keep ccd, just uninstall ccd and then do a custom re-install without the virtual drive component. __________________ ¿?¤»~Hôw Çåñ ï mï§§ ¥ôü ïf ¥ôü wôñ'± gô åwå¥~»¤¿?

24-09-2003	#24 (permalink)
clemento New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 24	The version of Securom that is used on Republic has blacklisted Alcohol. They are saying a new release is due soon and the blacklist problem will be fixed

24-09-2003	#25 (permalink)
giovanni42104 Blindwrite Team member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,017	blacklisted hahhah they said they would fix it wow i would be shocked if they did .... but stranger things have happened ... __________________ If you need further assistance or questions feel free to add me as contact and shoot me a message or email me on msn at giovanni40220@msn.com. Also if you look in profile i have other ways to get ahold of me...cheers system specs : motherboard - ga-7n400 pro 2 nforce2 chipset, 1.67 amd processor, 512 ddr ram, nvidia geforce 4 mx 440 video card (using modified drivers 44.65), tdk IndiDVD 440n dvd burner (dvd burner firmware -1.05), memorex 52x24x52 2452J (cd burner, with firmware: 6WS6), plextor premium cd burner (firmare: 1.05), tdk 5200b cd burner (firmware: lastest)

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