No joy-BF'42-Secret Weapons of WW2 - Club CDFreaks

danny5 · 01-10-2003

I have not been able to make a working backup of Battlefield 1942-Secret Weapons of WW2. This game is protected with Safedisc.

I have the latest version of Alcohol 120%.

Readers used: Toshiba DVD SD-M1612, Asus 1610a

CDRW: Asus1610a

I tried 8x to read, and 16x and 8x to burn. Copy failed in both the Toshiba and the Asus.

Is the Safedisc getting too good, my hardware too old, or can't Alcohol 120% not able to handle this copy protection?

BTW, I used the Safedisc2 settings in 120% to read and write.

I have been able to backup all BF'42 CD's previously, so I assume that Safedisc is getting tougher to beat.

Thanks...

Lazer · 01-10-2003

According to here:

http://forum.alcohol-software.com/in...showtopic=2196

Your Asus burner should be Ok for correct EFM encoding.

If you used the default Safedisc 2 settings 'Bypass Efm Error' will be ticked under the recording options.

Have you tried unticking it and re-burning?

Lazer.

danny5 · 01-10-2003

No, I have not tried deselecting 'Bypass Efm Error', is that what I was supposed to do? I will read your link, thanks.

Lazer · 01-10-2003

Yes indeedy.

If you use a 2 sheep burner then unselecting 'Bypass EFM Error' is more likely to work.

You'll notice on the Alcohol support forums that Robbo (the guy that wrote it) recommends using the Safedisk 1 option for 2 sheep burners.

The only difference is that by default - under recording options - Bypass EFM error is unticked using that, but ticked in the default Safedisk 2 options.

Lazer.

danny5 · 01-10-2003

Lazer,

Thanks for the clarification in this matter. I will give it a try when I get home tonight. If it dont work, I will post again..

You have been most helpful.

I am grateful..

nothing32 · 01-10-2003

Backup of BF1942 Secret Weapons of WW2 on Celeron1200 ASUS TuSL2-C with LITEON LTC - 48161H (firmware wasnt the newest one), using CCD 4202, on reading: full speed, writing: full speed (48x on actually Verbatim 40x media),
playing solely on AMD2400+ (I own both the computers myself, the old Celeron only for browsing and some working, the AMD for playing) with Toshiba SD-M 1612 drive inside (no burner, no burning software).
Both PCs under Win98SE.
Only Battlefield 1942 was installed on play-PC, no other Addon except Secret Weapons (thus no Rise Rome or something I didn't bother yet).
No Mainboard drivers are installed on the surfworkandbackup-PC.
All Mainboard (SIS, it's Elitegroup K7S5APro 5.0) drivers are installed on the play-PC.

Result: Copy is working without any "help", 100%, also after reboot.

CloneCD setting was "Copy protected CD".

nothing32 · 01-10-2003

exactly the same with SC4 Rush Hour (but I updated the LiteOn Firmware in the meantime). That's it for my games at the moment. I guess I am a 100% satisfied LiteOn customer

Jay Sea · 23-10-2003

Burning sd2.9040 with the liteon combo drive (LTC-48161H), which firmware is best?
and also. Can clonecd work for sd2.9 with this drive?!?!?!

**FutureProof** · 24-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Sea
Can clonecd work for sd2.9 with this drive?!?!?!

He used CloneCD 4.2.0.2, SD 2.90.040 and his LITEON combo, so I'd say "yes"! But Alcohol will work as well.

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

I've got both the 52327s and 48161H just bought it because of Generals Zero Hour, but both burners give a total miss on sd2.9040 (that's on disc 1) using CCD, BW and alcohol.
When running there will be a tmp error. Or if hide media is not on it will tell you to insert the correct disc (as usual).
unknown pattern 9b6d, 15fa and maybe 3045 are causing the trouble.

Btw. I also have a new clean machine on which I don't have any burning software and I read with a normal dvd-rom and the original is even a no go.

Can you explain that?

one other thing... is it normal for the drive not to give a red led if it is burning a disc? Other models from Lite-on do this, but this one doesn't

**philamber** · 24-10-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Jay Sea
Btw. I also have a new clean machine on which I don't have any burning software and I read with a normal dvd-rom and the original is even a no go.

If the original doesn't work, you can hardly expect your copies to do so.

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

I dove a little deaper in to this:
The weak sectors:
390 had pattern 15FA. This sector came out to be bad on the backup.
714 had pattern 3045. This result is: sector 713+714+715+716 are bad on the backup.

I used different firmware and results are the same: KH0M and KH0N (the first came with the drive)

conclusion: Backup won't run aka. tmp error

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

Quote:

If the original doesn't work, you can hardly expect your copies to do so.

I know, but on my laptop the original does work.
The original is not faulty... that's the strange part.

**FutureProof** · 24-10-2003

Bioware committed a monumental cockup when they blacklisted LITEON burners in a Neverwinter Nights patch. Maybe you should visit the official game forum to see what's happening

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

cannot find a forum on that anywhere

**FutureProof** · 24-10-2003

Anything here

http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/inde...e_forum&d=6471

http://www.bfcentral.com/

Jay Sea · 24-10-2003

My trouble was with Generals Zero Hour

nothing32 · 26-10-2003

is it normal for the drive not to give a red led if it is burning a disc? Yes.

I bought BF 1942 Road to Rome in the meantime. It's somewhat Safedisc between 2.5x and 2.9x, maybe 2.8, and I cannot copy that one - it gives a crash on verification. I can copy 2.5x, 2.9x with CCD (under Win98SE). According to www.cdfreaks.com, you can copy SD 3.1 with Alcohol by unchecking weak sector enhancing.

I play the SD 2.9x-Copy on a PC without burner or burning software installed, under Win98SE.

01-10-2003	#1 (permalink)
danny5 CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 92	No joy-BF'42-Secret Weapons of WW2 <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I have not been able to make a working backup of Battlefield 1942-Secret Weapons of WW2. This game is protected with Safedisc. I have the latest version of Alcohol 120%. Readers used: Toshiba DVD SD-M1612, Asus 1610a CDRW: Asus1610a I tried 8x to read, and 16x and 8x to burn. Copy failed in both the Toshiba and the Asus. Is the Safedisc getting too good, my hardware too old, or can't Alcohol 120% not able to handle this copy protection? BTW, I used the Safedisc2 settings in 120% to read and write. I have been able to backup all BF'42 CD's previously, so I assume that Safedisc is getting tougher to beat. Thanks... Last edited by danny5; 01-10-2003 at 16:36.

23-10-2003	#8 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	Burning sd2.9040 with the liteon combo drive (LTC-48161H), which firmware is best? and also. Can clonecd work for sd2.9 with this drive?!?!?! __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#10 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	I've got both the 52327s and 48161H just bought it because of Generals Zero Hour, but both burners give a total miss on sd2.9040 (that's on disc 1) using CCD, BW and alcohol. When running there will be a tmp error. Or if hide media is not on it will tell you to insert the correct disc (as usual). unknown pattern 9b6d, 15fa and maybe 3045 are causing the trouble. Btw. I also have a new clean machine on which I don't have any burning software and I read with a normal dvd-rom and the original is even a no go. Can you explain that? one other thing... is it normal for the drive not to give a red led if it is burning a disc? Other models from Lite-on do this, but this one doesn't __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#12 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	I dove a little deaper in to this: The weak sectors: 390 had pattern 15FA. This sector came out to be bad on the backup. 714 had pattern 3045. This result is: sector 713+714+715+716 are bad on the backup. I used different firmware and results are the same: KH0M and KH0N (the first came with the drive) conclusion: Backup won't run aka. tmp error __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#14 (permalink)
FutureProof Senior Admin Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: True Blue Posts: 5,606	Bioware committed a monumental cockup when they blacklisted LITEON burners in a Neverwinter Nights patch. Maybe you should visit the official game forum to see what's happening __________________ :ÐowN AsS ± ßû(r)NêR: Try our Search function > Words on Netiquette 24, 32, 40 & 52X Liteons, 16, 40, 48 & 52X ASUS', Ricoh MP7163A, Acer 1610A CD writers; Toshiba SD-M1402, Hitachi GD-7500 & Liteon LTD-163D DVD-ROMs; Toshiba SD-R1202 DVD-ROM/CD writer combo; NEC CloneDrive; Matshita DVD RAM/-R/-RW UJ-810 PEBKAC: Click here when asked AXDA3000DKV4D Atlhon 3000+ Model 10 Barton; Twin, Dual-Channeled Corsair CMX512-2700C2 @ 2-3-3-6-T1; GA-7N400 Pro F12; crappy vid card; Twin (base) WD2500JD drives There are two secrets to success: 1) Don't tell everyone everything There are 10 types of people who understand binary: those who do and those who don't Who Are YOU?

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01-10-2003	#2 (permalink)
Lazer CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 138	According to here: http://forum.alcohol-software.com/in...showtopic=2196 Your Asus burner should be Ok for correct EFM encoding. If you used the default Safedisc 2 settings 'Bypass Efm Error' will be ticked under the recording options. Have you tried unticking it and re-burning? Lazer.

01-10-2003	#3 (permalink)
danny5 CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 92	No, I have not tried deselecting 'Bypass Efm Error', is that what I was supposed to do? I will read your link, thanks.

01-10-2003	#4 (permalink)
Lazer CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 138	Yes indeedy. If you use a 2 sheep burner then unselecting 'Bypass EFM Error' is more likely to work. You'll notice on the Alcohol support forums that Robbo (the guy that wrote it) recommends using the Safedisk 1 option for 2 sheep burners. The only difference is that by default - under recording options - Bypass EFM error is unticked using that, but ticked in the default Safedisk 2 options. Lazer.

01-10-2003	#5 (permalink)
danny5 CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Posts: 92	Lazer, Thanks for the clarification in this matter. I will give it a try when I get home tonight. If it dont work, I will post again.. You have been most helpful. I am grateful..

01-10-2003	#6 (permalink)
nothing32 New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 18	Backup of BF1942 Secret Weapons of WW2 on Celeron1200 ASUS TuSL2-C with LITEON LTC - 48161H (firmware wasnt the newest one), using CCD 4202, on reading: full speed, writing: full speed (48x on actually Verbatim 40x media), playing solely on AMD2400+ (I own both the computers myself, the old Celeron only for browsing and some working, the AMD for playing) with Toshiba SD-M 1612 drive inside (no burner, no burning software). Both PCs under Win98SE. Only Battlefield 1942 was installed on play-PC, no other Addon except Secret Weapons (thus no Rise Rome or something I didn't bother yet). No Mainboard drivers are installed on the surfworkandbackup-PC. All Mainboard (SIS, it's Elitegroup K7S5APro 5.0) drivers are installed on the play-PC. Result: Copy is working without any "help", 100%, also after reboot. CloneCD setting was "Copy protected CD".

01-10-2003	#7 (permalink)
nothing32 New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 18	exactly the same with SC4 Rush Hour (but I updated the LiteOn Firmware in the meantime). That's it for my games at the moment. I guess I am a 100% satisfied LiteOn customer

24-10-2003	#15 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	cannot find a forum on that anywhere __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

24-10-2003	#16 (permalink)
FutureProof Senior Admin Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: True Blue Posts: 5,606	Anything here http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/inde...e_forum&d=6471 http://www.bfcentral.com/ __________________ :ÐowN AsS ± ßû(r)NêR: Try our Search function > Words on Netiquette 24, 32, 40 & 52X Liteons, 16, 40, 48 & 52X ASUS', Ricoh MP7163A, Acer 1610A CD writers; Toshiba SD-M1402, Hitachi GD-7500 & Liteon LTD-163D DVD-ROMs; Toshiba SD-R1202 DVD-ROM/CD writer combo; NEC CloneDrive; Matshita DVD RAM/-R/-RW UJ-810 PEBKAC: Click here when asked AXDA3000DKV4D Atlhon 3000+ Model 10 Barton; Twin, Dual-Channeled Corsair CMX512-2700C2 @ 2-3-3-6-T1; GA-7N400 Pro F12; crappy vid card; Twin (base) WD2500JD drives There are two secrets to success: 1) Don't tell everyone everything There are 10 types of people who understand binary: those who do and those who don't Who Are YOU?

24-10-2003	#17 (permalink)
Jay Sea CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Holland Posts: 261	My trouble was with Generals Zero Hour __________________ Lite-On to rule the world, even more with it's OC capabilities. Jay Sea at your service... Lite-On LTR 40125S @ 48125W Lite-On LTR 52246S Lite-On LTR 52327S Lite-On LTC 48161H Lite-On LDW 811S

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26-10-2003	#18 (permalink)
nothing32 New on Forum Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 18	is it normal for the drive not to give a red led if it is burning a disc? Yes. I bought BF 1942 Road to Rome in the meantime. It's somewhat Safedisc between 2.5x and 2.9x, maybe 2.8, and I cannot copy that one - it gives a crash on verification. I can copy 2.5x, 2.9x with CCD (under Win98SE). According to www.cdfreaks.com, you can copy SD 3.1 with Alcohol by unchecking weak sector enhancing. I play the SD 2.9x-Copy on a PC without burner or burning software installed, under Win98SE.