MOHAA: SpearHead - Club CDFreaks

*kamikazee* · 14-11-2002

Emulated and copied safedisc v2.80.010
Lite_on 163D DVD reader
Lite 48125W writer
Image took 32 minutes to make
took only 3.30 minutes to write
used all alcohol defaults

**philamber** · 14-11-2002

Nice to know.
Could you try making a copy using your writer as reader?

I suspect it would only take a few minutes to make the image and it should still work (alcohol's safedisc dumping with Lite-on dvds is as slow as treacle owing to a known bug that will be fixed when the programmer has the time given all the other things he's working on).

*kamikazee* · 15-11-2002

Sure Hold on a few.

OK done
Lite-On 48125W reader/writer
5.27 minutes to make the image
2.52 minutes to write the image
and it works.

mhthomas · 17-11-2002

what alcohol program are you using?

The burner, or the emulator, or both?

*kamikazee* · 17-11-2002

As my first post says I copied it successfully and I have emulated it on my computer using alcohol 120

mhthomas · 17-11-2002

thanks, you da man
good posting

**FutureProof** · 18-11-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by kamikazee
As my first post says I copied it successfully and I have emulated it on my computer using alcohol 120

If you copied it successfully, why are you emulating?!

*kamikazee* · 18-11-2002

I run a game server for the kids and I have 4 computers in the house. I emulate on the server, I like to click and start.

**FutureProof** · 18-11-2002

I've got four 'worker' PCs and one for 'storage' where the images are run from at times. I gotta get into this server thing.

Copy Lord · 22-11-2002

I made a working copy of this using:

The setup in my signature on PC # 1, latest OFFICIAL CloneCD.

The only 2 PCs I have to test it on have the same DVD drive in them. (Toshiba SD-M1502)

Is there anyone else out there that has been able to make a working backup without any problem? (Someone with a drive other than the ones I list) Thanks!

Dazzler · 11-12-2002

Alcohol 1.3.5 build 1125
Reader Toshiba SD-M1612 (FW 1004)
Writer LiteOn LTR-48125W (VS08)

Alcohol is slow as hell reading Safedisc with Toshi's, reading the image to disc took about 22 min's. Burned at 8x. Works like a charm in the Toshiba with no emulation or anything. Just plain installing and running. The game checks the CD around 15-20 sec's everytime, but I can live with that. Thumbs up to Alcohol for safedisc 2.8+, though the Safedisc readtimes really needs improvement. But on the other hand I prefer accuracy over speed any time.

**philamber** · 11-12-2002

@ Dazzler

Try using your writer as your reader when using alcohol to read safedisc cds. It's often dog slow when reading safedisc cds from a dvd but usually quite ok with a writer.

For example, typically, it would take about 35 min to read a sd 2 cd with my Ltd-163 but only about 7 min with my Ltr-24102b.

Your LiteOn LTR-48125W would probably do it in about 5 to 6 min.

Dazzler · 11-12-2002

Thanks philamber.

I'll try it out. After reading about LiteOn writers problems regarding reading newest Securom protections, I don't really use it as a reader anymore. But for now it might be better for reading Safedisc CD's with Alcohol.

cirus 1978 · 12-12-2002

I succesfully copied MOHAA Spearhead with my old Plex 1610 using Alcohol's SD2 default settings. I used Alcohol 1.3.3 build 1030. With CloneCD, SD 2.8 didn't worked, but I didn't used the latest CloneCd version. Conflict desert storm (SD 2.7) did work using the default settings in Clone CD !

Bloodstar007 · 17-12-2002

plextor drives usually dont have a problem with safedisc 2.7 and below, not trying to put you down i saw you were new on the forum and just wanted to fill you in.

Off-topic: @kamikazee
Hmm... I like the putting the image on the server, I hadn't thought of that!

14-11-2002	#1 (permalink)
kamikazee Blindwrite Team Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,074	MOHAA: SpearHead <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Emulated and copied safedisc v2.80.010 Lite_on 163D DVD reader Lite 48125W writer Image took 32 minutes to make took only 3.30 minutes to write used all alcohol defaults

15-11-2002	#3 (permalink)
kamikazee Blindwrite Team Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,074	Sure Hold on a few. OK done Lite-On 48125W reader/writer 5.27 minutes to make the image 2.52 minutes to write the image and it works. Last edited by kamikazee; 15-11-2002 at 20:53.

17-11-2002	#4 (permalink)
mhthomas New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3	noob what alcohol program are you using? The burner, or the emulator, or both?

17-11-2002	#6 (permalink)
mhthomas New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3	i got it now thanks, you da man good posting

22-11-2002	#10 (permalink)
Copy Lord CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: New Jersey, U.S.A. Posts: 140	Spearhead I made a working copy of this using: The setup in my signature on PC # 1, latest OFFICIAL CloneCD. The only 2 PCs I have to test it on have the same DVD drive in them. (Toshiba SD-M1502) Is there anyone else out there that has been able to make a working backup without any problem? (Someone with a drive other than the ones I list) Thanks! __________________ Bleh. PC # 1: Toshiba SD-M1712 / NEC 3550A PC # 2: Toshiba SD-M1502 / Lite-On SOHW 1633S DVD +/- RW

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14-11-2002	#2 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,722	Nice to know. Could you try making a copy using your writer as reader? I suspect it would only take a few minutes to make the image and it should still work (alcohol's safedisc dumping with Lite-on dvds is as slow as treacle owing to a known bug that will be fixed when the programmer has the time given all the other things he's working on).

17-11-2002	#5 (permalink)
kamikazee Blindwrite Team Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,074	As my first post says I copied it successfully and I have emulated it on my computer using alcohol 120

18-11-2002	#8 (permalink)
kamikazee Blindwrite Team Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,074	I run a game server for the kids and I have 4 computers in the house. I emulate on the server, I like to click and start.

18-11-2002	#9 (permalink)
FutureProof Senior Admin Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: True Blue Posts: 5,606	I've got four 'worker' PCs and one for 'storage' where the images are run from at times. I gotta get into this server thing.

11-12-2002	#11 (permalink)
Dazzler CD Freaks Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 229	No problems here Alcohol 1.3.5 build 1125 Reader Toshiba SD-M1612 (FW 1004) Writer LiteOn LTR-48125W (VS08) Alcohol is slow as hell reading Safedisc with Toshi's, reading the image to disc took about 22 min's. Burned at 8x. Works like a charm in the Toshiba with no emulation or anything. Just plain installing and running. The game checks the CD around 15-20 sec's everytime, but I can live with that. Thumbs up to Alcohol for safedisc 2.8+, though the Safedisc readtimes really needs improvement. But on the other hand I prefer accuracy over speed any time.

11-12-2002	#12 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,722	@ Dazzler Try using your writer as your reader when using alcohol to read safedisc cds. It's often dog slow when reading safedisc cds from a dvd but usually quite ok with a writer. For example, typically, it would take about 35 min to read a sd 2 cd with my Ltd-163 but only about 7 min with my Ltr-24102b. Your LiteOn LTR-48125W would probably do it in about 5 to 6 min. __________________ ¿?¤»~Hôw Çåñ ï mï§§ ¥ôü ïf ¥ôü wôñ'± gô åwå¥~»¤¿?

11-12-2002	#13 (permalink)
Dazzler CD Freaks Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 229	Thanks philamber. I'll try it out. After reading about LiteOn writers problems regarding reading newest Securom protections, I don't really use it as a reader anymore. But for now it might be better for reading Safedisc CD's with Alcohol.

12-12-2002	#14 (permalink)
cirus 1978 New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 16	succesfully copied MOHAA Spearhead with PX-161040A I succesfully copied MOHAA Spearhead with my old Plex 1610 using Alcohol's SD2 default settings. I used Alcohol 1.3.3 build 1030. With CloneCD, SD 2.8 didn't worked, but I didn't used the latest CloneCd version. Conflict desert storm (SD 2.7) did work using the default settings in Clone CD !

17-12-2002	#15 (permalink)
Bloodstar007 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Massachusets, USA Posts: 451	plextor drives usually dont have a problem with safedisc 2.7 and below, not trying to put you down i saw you were new on the forum and just wanted to fill you in. Off-topic: @kamikazee Hmm... I like the putting the image on the server, I hadn't thought of that! __________________ "Not all who wander are lost." -J.R.R. Tolkien

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