Fifa 2003 failure with Alcohol - Club CDFreaks

CCDKing · 11-11-2002

I can't seem to copy Fifa 2003 disc 2 with alcohol 120%, used safedisc 2 setting, read at max speed, burned at 12x, what am I doing wrong?

CCDKing · 11-11-2002

Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am using Liteon LTR-40125W@48x and latest version of alcohol. I can't the error: "Cannot locate CD ROM"

jmazzamj · 11-11-2002

I have been able to Clone Fifa 2003 (Ita version,SafeDisc 2.80.10) using Cd Mate,no luck with Clone Cd,I didn't try with alcohol,but a friend of mine with an Lg 16x (Safe ok) hasn't been able to.

Did you read with the LiteOn?Haven't you got another reader?

Bye

CCDKing · 11-11-2002

I read with the Liteon, my CDROM is an LG piece of junk.

jmazzamj · 11-11-2002

Try out another sofwtare as Cd Mate.
I think latest Blinsuite is able to clone 2.80.10 too.

Try it out and post your experience.

Bye

Orinoco · 11-11-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by jmazzamj
I think latest Blinsuite is able to clone 2.80.10 too.

Not So, check out philamber's post

Vladi68 · 11-11-2002

Well, I cloned Fifa2003 CD2 with newest Alcohol software.
I used my LiteOn 52246S as reader and writer, no problems...

XpProf · 11-11-2002

Safedisc 2 cd's must be readed at 4x....

XpProf

jmazzamj · 11-11-2002

They must not.
Generally,when I make image,I use to read them at 4x,but if i'm in a hurry I read them at max speed creating workin back-ups...

For example Gordon always reads his images at full speed,but for Fifa 2003 he made an exeption:read a 8x.

Bye

**FutureProof** · 12-11-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by XpProf
Safedisc 2 cd's must be readed at 4x....

XpProf

Read speed for SD is not an issue.

CCDKing · 12-11-2002

Well, I am the CCDKing, not the alcoholking, however that may change on my 18th b'day.

Am I supposed to use Safedisc 2 write settings with Alcohol because I have some feeling that it is amplifying weak sectors, which shouldn't be done by a liteon or Coasters will occur, any input?

jmazzamj · 12-11-2002

It does not amplify,just don't select EFM when writing.
With a LiteOn,even if you amplify weak sectors,you won't get a coaster,CCDKing.

Bye

**philamber** · 12-11-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by jmazzamj
With a LiteOn,even if you amplify weak sectors,you won't get a coaster

Actually, most people do get coasters if they use AWS with Liteys. As it happens, I don't and apparently you don't. However, for example, FutureProof will get a coaster if he uses AWS with any of his Liteys.

Fr4nz · 12-11-2002

So the answer for you, CCDking, is: you have to disable bypass EFM error in order to have a working backup with your litey!

jmazzamj · 12-11-2002

I never used AWS with ,y LiteOn and I didn't know about this,sorry.
I read on cdrinfo and those guys don't get coasters when using AWS.

Bye

**FutureProof** · 12-11-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by CCDKing
I can't seem to copy Fifa 2003 disc 2 with alcohol 120%, used safedisc 2 setting, read at max speed, burned at 12x, what am I doing wrong?

Maybe a setting? Has DMA fallen over? There are reports of it working for SD2.8x so I'm confident you can do it. Tried changing media type?

**philamber** · 12-11-2002

You might also try installing and running the game from your LG "piece of junk" cdrom. (The game is hotwired to only run from the drive from which it was installed, unless you hack the registry to alter the install path.)

Weshy · 17-11-2002

Alrighty I'm a bit confused about 2 options in Alcohol, these being Bypass EFM error and Rectify Sub-channel Data. I have a Lite-on 48125W. I was under the impression that for lite-on drives under Alcohol, Bypass EFM Error is ticked (so that it does not amplify weak sectors) and Rectify Sub-channel Data is unticked (so that it does not regenerate sub channel data)?

Weshy.

**philamber** · 17-11-2002

Nope. Bypass efm error is alcohol's equivalent of clonecd's AWS. If you're using a Litey, leave it unchecked.

Rectify sub-channel data, if checked, will result in a dao16 write rather than a dao96 write that would be used if unchecked (it shouldn't make any difference either way for safedisc protected cds).

Weshy · 17-11-2002

Oh I see. Thanks for clearing that up.

Well I made a successful backup of The Thing (Securom v4.77) with Bypass EFM encoding enabled in Alcohol. I suppose I was lucky!

Next time I'll leave it off.

Weshy.

**FutureProof** · 18-11-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Weshy
Well I made a successful backup of The Thing (Securom v4.77) with Bypass EFM encoding enabled in Alcohol.

Nothing to 'bypass' so NP at all

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11-11-2002	#2 (permalink)
CCDKing CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 377	Sorry, I forgot to mention that I am using Liteon LTR-40125W@48x and latest version of alcohol. I can't the error: "Cannot locate CD ROM"

11-11-2002	#3 (permalink)
jmazzamj CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 218	I have been able to Clone Fifa 2003 (Ita version,SafeDisc 2.80.10) using Cd Mate,no luck with Clone Cd,I didn't try with alcohol,but a friend of mine with an Lg 16x (Safe ok) hasn't been able to. Did you read with the LiteOn?Haven't you got another reader? Bye

11-11-2002	#4 (permalink)
CCDKing CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 377	I read with the Liteon, my CDROM is an LG piece of junk.

11-11-2002	#5 (permalink)
jmazzamj CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 218	Try out another sofwtare as Cd Mate. I think latest Blinsuite is able to clone 2.80.10 too. Try it out and post your experience. Bye

11-11-2002	#7 (permalink)
Vladi68 New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 28	Well, I cloned Fifa2003 CD2 with newest Alcohol software. I used my LiteOn 52246S as reader and writer, no problems...

11-11-2002	#9 (permalink)
jmazzamj CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 218	They must not. Generally,when I make image,I use to read them at 4x,but if i'm in a hurry I read them at max speed creating workin back-ups... For example Gordon always reads his images at full speed,but for Fifa 2003 he made an exeption:read a 8x. Bye

12-11-2002	#11 (permalink)
CCDKing CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 377	Well, I am the CCDKing, not the alcoholking, however that may change on my 18th b'day. Am I supposed to use Safedisc 2 write settings with Alcohol because I have some feeling that it is amplifying weak sectors, which shouldn't be done by a liteon or Coasters will occur, any input?

12-11-2002	#12 (permalink)
jmazzamj CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 218	It does not amplify,just don't select EFM when writing. With a LiteOn,even if you amplify weak sectors,you won't get a coaster,CCDKing. Bye

12-11-2002	#14 (permalink)
Fr4nz CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 209	So the answer for you, CCDking, is: you have to disable bypass EFM error in order to have a working backup with your litey!

12-11-2002	#15 (permalink)
jmazzamj CD Freaks Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 218	I never used AWS with ,y LiteOn and I didn't know about this,sorry. I read on cdrinfo and those guys don't get coasters when using AWS. Bye

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12-11-2002	#17 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,736	You might also try installing and running the game from your LG "piece of junk" cdrom. (The game is hotwired to only run from the drive from which it was installed, unless you hack the registry to alter the install path.)

17-11-2002	#18 (permalink)
Weshy CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Land Down Under Posts: 76	Alrighty I'm a bit confused about 2 options in Alcohol, these being Bypass EFM error and Rectify Sub-channel Data. I have a Lite-on 48125W. I was under the impression that for lite-on drives under Alcohol, Bypass EFM Error is ticked (so that it does not amplify weak sectors) and Rectify Sub-channel Data is unticked (so that it does not regenerate sub channel data)? Weshy.

17-11-2002	#19 (permalink)
philamber Legal Senior Admin Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: True Blue Posts: 6,736	Nope. Bypass efm error is alcohol's equivalent of clonecd's AWS. If you're using a Litey, leave it unchecked. Rectify sub-channel data, if checked, will result in a dao16 write rather than a dao96 write that would be used if unchecked (it shouldn't make any difference either way for safedisc protected cds).

17-11-2002	#20 (permalink)
Weshy CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Land Down Under Posts: 76	Oh I see. Thanks for clearing that up. Well I made a successful backup of The Thing (Securom v4.77) with Bypass EFM encoding enabled in Alcohol. I suppose I was lucky! Next time I'll leave it off. Weshy.