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Old 07-12-2007   #1 (permalink)
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? “28 Days Later” Problems

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I finally got 28 Days Later today and as usual I tried to make a copy of just the movie, deleted scenes, and alternate endings for primary use. Unfortunately, it is proving a lot harder than most other movies.

The main movie is fine, but the deleted scenes and alternate endings are strange. Most of them are in title two as separate chapters, and one more is in title five as chapter four.

In CloneDVD it works fine, but it has poor compression and I cannot set the extras to compress more than the main title. In DVDShrink however, title two is listed as separate chapters and it is not even right (chapter nine is empty and chapter two won’t play).


I was really hoping to watch 28 Days and 28 Weeks tonight, but it’ll likely have to wait until the weekend now.


I couldn’t find any other threads about this movie here; does that mean that nobody else had this problem?

I appreciate any tips. Thanks.
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Blank the unwanted stuff in VobBlanker - or even still image it in DVD Shrink.

What's stopping you watching the DVDs? The player is unlikely to eat them.

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Blank the unwanted stuff in VobBlanker - or even still image it in DVD Shrink.
Blank them? How does that differ from just not including unwanted stuff? Also, that does not make Shrink see the titles correctly (chapter two and nine would still be messed up).

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What's stopping you watching the DVDs? The player is unlikely to eat them.
Well nothing I guess. Then again, there are a bunch of shows on tonight.
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There are guides to blanking them on the site. Basically, you select the material you do not want, press Blank and Apply. And back in the main screen, press Process. It is very simple really. Try it.

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I’ll try that, but I don’t see how it would make Shrink be able to see the two titles correctly.
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you could give DVDFab Platinum (30 day trial fully functional) a try it has customized mode & other feaures. Post your Qs if you have any in the dvdfab forum

btw what ripper did you use?
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It makes DVD Shrink see the titles correctly because the fundamental structure of the DVD is not altered - just the material you have omitted.

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you could give DVDFab Platinum (30 day trial fully functional) a try it has customized mode & other feaures. Post your Qs if you have any in the dvdfab forum

btw what ripper did you use?
Does DVDFab do a good quality transcode?

I did not use a ripper (yet), I was trying to use Shrink, but it could not see the DVD correctly.


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It makes DVD Shrink see the titles correctly because the fundamental structure of the DVD is not altered - just the material you have omitted.
But if Shrink couldn’t see the titles correctly right off of the disc, then how is it supposed to see them correctly when VobBlanker does not alter them?
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If your not using a ripper I don't understand how you could be able to see the DVD correctly or work with it? DvdShrink isn't updated anymore, I suggest you try HDDvdFab then do as Blutach suggested. I usually just use DvdShrink after ripping to get the movie only. If you don't remove the copy protection I don't see how you could ever get good results.
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If your not using a ripper I don't understand how you could be able to see the DVD correctly or work with it? DvdShrink isn't updated anymore, I suggest you try HDDvdFab then do as Blutach suggested. I usually just use DvdShrink after ripping to get the movie only. If you don't remove the copy protection I don't see how you could ever get good results.
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Video DVD (or CD) label: T28DAYS_LATER169
Media is CSS protected!
Video Standard: NTSC
Media is locked to region(s): 1!

Found & removed RCE protection!
DVD structure appears to be correct.
Structural copy protection not found.
Autorun not found on Video DVD.
Bad sector protection not found.
Emulating RPC-2 drive with region 1!
It doesn’t seem to have any detectable bad VOBUs, bad sectors, bad structure, false IFOs, etc.
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I SOLVED IT!

I used a trick that I have used before (but for some reason did not think to use here). I simply ripped the extras to the hd with CloneDVD (which is able to see the titles correctly), then used Shrink to combine the main title from the DVD, with the extras on the hd, so that Shrink did the compression.

After CloneDVD processed the extras, it made changes to the structure (well, technically it created new ones) that Shrink could correctly interpret (for the most part, it displayed the chapters that were removed from title 5 as empty).
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I have that movie and will have to put it in for testing later.
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I have that movie and will have to put it in for testing later.
Sounds good. I was wondering if anyone else was having trouble since I could not find any threads about it (although it is five-years-old, and the copy I got is brand-spanking-new). I may end up having to send a copy of the IFOs to SlySoft for examination.
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Sounds good. I was wondering if anyone else was having trouble since I could not find any threads about it (although it is five-years-old, and the copy I got is brand-spanking-new). I may end up having to send a copy of the IFOs to SlySoft for examination.
My original has been played once i think so it should be in great shape. I'll get around to it here pretty soon.

It's region 1 by the way. Putting it in now.

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Is this what you get with AnyDVD and Shrink when first loading it up?
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Close but not quite. I’ve got this:
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Close but not quite. I’ve got this:
Weird must not be the same as mine. I bought this 3 1/2 yrs ago.
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Weird must not be the same as mine. I bought this 3 1/2 yrs ago.
Yeah, that’s what I figured. This one is new (UPC 024543088172/50). Here’s the details:
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Yeah, that’s what I figured. This one is new (UPC 024543088172/50). Here’s the details:
Mine is the same but no /50 as far as the UPC goes. I don't have CloneDVD2 installed at this time.
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Mine is the same but no /50 as far as the UPC goes. I don't have CloneDVD2 installed at this time.
The 50 is at the top of the UPC to the right.

Your titleset seems to match mine more or less. Try playing that last Title 2 (continued) in Shrink. It is seen as empty, so that second alternate ending is unavilable in Shrink.

Speaking of which, I downloaded AVI copies of the extras for 28 Days Later a year or two ago then I compared them to the ones on the disc yesterday. They all matched except for one: the AVI file labeled “Hospital Dream” is not on my disc, but is fairly similar (many—but not all—shots in common with) the title labeled “Alternative Theatrical Ending” in the disc menu. “Hospital Dream” starts with him being pushed down the hall on a gurney, while “Alternative Theatrical Ending” starts with the text “…what if” then shows a car and a guy in a house while it rains. It has most (not all) of the stuff from “Hospital Dream”, and includes stuff that the latter does not have. “Alternate Theatrical Ending” is 4:24 while “Hospital Dream” is 4:28.

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The 50 is at the top of the UPC to the right.

Your titleset seems to match mine more or less. Try playing that last Title 2 (continued) in Shrink. It is seen as empty, so that second alternate ending is unavilable in Shrink.

Speaking of which, I downloaded AVI copies of the extras for 28 Days Later a year or two ago then I compared them to the ones on the disc yesterday. They all matched except for one: the AVI file labeled “Hospital Dream” is not on my disc, but is fairly similar (many—but not all—shots in common with) the title labeled “Alternative Theatrical Ending” in the disc menu. “Hospital Dream” starts with him being pushed down the hall on a gurney, while “Alternative Theatrical Ending” starts with the text “…what if” then shows a car and a guy in a house while it rains. It has most (not all) of the stuff from “Hospital Dream”, and includes stuff that the latter does not have. “Alternate Theatrical Ending” is 4:24 while “Hospital Dream” is 4:28.

What does yours have?
My UPC has 00. Not sure about the rest. I bought it for my wife cause she likes scary movies. I don't think we have the exact same disc.

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The last title 2 cont is empty on mime yes.
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My UPC has 00. Not sure about the rest. I bought it for my wife cause she likes scary movies. I don't think we have the exact same disc.

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The last title 2 cont is empty on mime yes.

Yup, they’re different pressings (mine says widescreen special edition), and I think that they changed that second alternate ending (I’m betting that yours is the 4:28 “Hospital Dream” version that doesn’t start with the text “…what if”.
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Yup, they’re different pressings (mine says widescreen special edition), and I think that they changed that second alternate ending (I’m betting that yours is the 4:28 “Hospital Dream” version that doesn’t start with the text “…what if”.
Starts with a bunch of violence with a chimp viewing monitors.
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Starts with a bunch of violence with a chimp viewing monitors.
The movie or the second alternate ending?
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The movie or the second alternate ending?
Well i opened title 1 with Shrink and that's what i saw. Let me stick it in a set top player.

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Yep the same thing. Chimp tired to a bed watching violence on a bunch of TV's
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Well i opened title 1 with Shrink and that's what i saw. Let me stick it in a set top player.

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Yep the same thing. Chimp tired to a bed watching violence on a bunch of TV's
Title one is fine, it’s title 2 chapter nine (the last chapter of 2) that Shrink cannot see.
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