Hi, I am trying to figure out the best way to backup my dual layer DVDs. I am currently using DVDFab Platinum's "Clone" feature. The DVDs are working great, However, I can't tell if the backups are perfect quality or not? Is there away to tell if they are perfect quality backups?

Is IMGburn a better way to make perfect quality dual layer backups?

Thanks

ImgBurn is the only program I would use to burn DL discs. Make sure you only use Verbatim +R DL.

You can run the discs through CDSpeed or DVDinfoPro (ImgBurn lets you export data to DVDinfoPro).

ImgBurn is my fave burning proggy the best " IMO" especially for DL burns...having said that, since purchasing and backing up a few DL's using Fab platinum, I've had great results...only Verb media for me as well ....

The problem I am having is with turning the DVD into an ISO file, and the layer break.

DVDFab platinum uses the original layer break with their clone feature, and claim to make a perfect copy.

With IMGburn, could you rip the DVD9 to a folder, then use DVDshrink to create the ISO image, then IMGburn to burn the DVD? Would this keep the original layer break?

DVDFab Platinum does make a great DL/ISO backup,why use shrink at all?avoid some steps no need to use it. If you want rip with Fab to HDD then IMGburn in build mode then burn with IMGBurn. that was my method before purchasing Platinum,and it worked great,still does AFAIK!...But DVDFab Platinum works great for me now so that's my preferred method....

My next DL burn will be using Fab Plat and see how it goes

I'll give Imgburn another pat on the back and agree that DVD Shrink should be left out of the equation. DVD Shrink will actually remove the original layer break information. Here is a guide for burning from a folder with Imgburn...

http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1780

CloneCD on the fly has worked best for me with everything i have tried. I just haven't tried Fab Plat yet.

On the fly with DL discs....I might just be crazy enough to give that a shot.

oh yeah

The problem is finding a movie deservant of a DL.

No kidding.

So, are recommending IMGburn for those that dont have DVDFab platinum? I have Platinum, but was just wondering which is best.

DVDFab's Clone feature

or

ISO file, and IMGBurn?

Imgburn isn't just for ISO's any more...

I wish I was qualified to answer questions about DVDFab and Clone for DL burning, but I've never used them...I've used Imgburn or DVD Decrypter for all of my DL burning.

I have mentioned to Fengtao about making Fab work for *On the Fly* copying but no-one wants it as there will be to many problems/questions etc..... You have to have the right reader/burner/media setup to do it. I told Fengtao i would beta test if needed and have never heard anymore about it. It's been a couple months.

Fengtao also said it would not be to hard to add to Fab. He may surprise us with an added update you never know about him

Could you explain to me how u make the ISO files? I have the original discs, I can use from the originial or rip to folder. But, I just do not understand the whole ISO files...Thats why I was hoping to here Platinum's Clone feature makes perfect copies.

As one of the best programs to do an ISO rip to your hard drive & then burn the MDS file with ImgBurn has not been mentioned, can somebody tell me if DvdFab HD Decrypter has an ISO read feature or is that what clone is? Also does it create the two files, one of them being the MDS file which contains the layer break info?

An ISO is just a nice convenient package...it contains all the necessary video files, but it put neatly into an image. Imgburn can now burn images or from folders that contain the VOB's, IFO's etc. via build mode.

Here are the guides I typically hand out...

For DL burning directly from a folder: http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1780
For making an ISO out of your folder: http://forum.imgburn.com/index.php?showtopic=1780

There are some other guides at the imgburn site that could come in handy, but since this thread is about DL burning I'll leave it at that.

DVDFab HD rips to a folder, there is no ISO read mode that I am aware of...it will let you convert your folder to an ISO after the rip is finished though and works much like Imgburn in build mode.

The one time I used it in this capacity I was only given an ISO file. It seemed slower than Imgburn at the conversion too, this is why I only tried it the one time. Revisions may have added an ISO read feature but I'm not sure. I really have no issues using Imgburn in build mode and burning directly to disc, so I don't see the need for the extra step of conversion.

Don't forget to use Paypal to LUK once in awhile as it is a free program but he does take donations I give him another $5 usd last night Total to LUK from me is $10 usd.

You will almost guarantee yourself a coaster by letting Shrink try and pick the layer break.

DL Verbs for me to!

Yes, ImgBurn all the way. And as Rolling56 said, donate to LIGHTNING UK!. I've donated I think $7 AUD. I think I might do it again soon.

I used to do all my DL backups with Diff.proggys and burn with IMGBurn, and still do occasionally, however since some fellow members suggested I try Fab Plat I've had great results. I still believe IMGBurn is the best burn engine as not only does it burn DVD but CD's as well....
LOCOENG wrote " The problem is finding a movie deservant of a DL.
Ghost Rider has great special effects and deserves one of my DL Verbs IMO....

Still waiting to see Ghost Rider....we shall see if it deserves a DL or not. I will typically use DVD-RB vs. a DL blank in the first place. I have found that it does such a good job with compression and bitrate that a DL isn't needed in most cases.

I followed the guide for IMGburn and did successfully make a dual layer copy. However, I just want to clear this up.

Lemme know if this is right.

For example, I used DVDFab to rip the whole movie to a folder. However, in the guide for IMGburn when in build mode, it says get the files from the Video_TS folder. I simply clicked the whole folder and it worked fine. Are you supposed to leave out the Audio_TS folder.

Also could someone explain to me what the MDS file is, and why you are supposed to use that instead of the actual ISO image when preparing to burn?

Thanks