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Burning Software Discuss, Ps2 Argh! at International Chat: Software related forum; I bought a BTC DVD +/- rw drive (4x version) and also got a magic 3.1 chip in my PS2. In the shop the backup worked fine on my PS2, but every backup I have done so far fails. I tried some 'bulkpaq' brand -r disks at 4x but it


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Old 13-11-2003   #1 (permalink)
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Ps2 Argh!

I bought a BTC DVD +/- rw drive (4x version) and also got a magic 3.1 chip in my PS2.

In the shop the backup worked fine on my PS2, but every backup I have done so far fails.

I tried some 'bulkpaq' brand -r disks at 4x but it didn't like that, just got a message telling me to insert some PS media.

I then tried another brand (not sure of name) which seemed to auto select 1x at on -r again but this got as far as the Playstation second logo and then stopped.

The chip definately works, but could someone please answer the following?

1) What brand / media should I use? (anyone know any disks that definately work)

2) What speed should I write at?

3) What software should I use? (have tried several including Nero and DVDdecryptor)

Thanks

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I have a CDr and DVDrw so I tend to copy image to HD first then write it on the DVDrw drive.
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1. Ritek, Taiyo Yuden, Mitsubishi Chem.

2. Whatever the media is certified at.

3. DVDDecrypter and DiscJuggler work fine for me.

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1. Ritek, Taiyo Yuden, Mitsubishi Chem.

2. Whatever the media is certified at.

3. DVDDecrypter and DiscJuggler work fine for me.

Good Luck,

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Would that be any Ritek disk? (sorry, new to this). I ordered some today on line, can't remember the brand but they use the Ritek dye, would this be right?

Do I need to use DiscJuggler AND DVDDecrypter together or just one or the other?

Thanks for the help
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lalaland,

I just did a post and you might want to read it. It has great links to help you backup your ps2 games.


http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....threadid=79375



i just use dvd decrypter by itself if you choose to use that program.
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I tried your post and the link with the advice, but it didn't seem to work, so I suspect my media is upsetting the PS2.
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Well it might be media. I know both methods , dvd decrypter and stomp recordnow max 4.5 both work. I have not tried alcohol 120 yet but i have heard it works.

I use the first two methods all the time plus most of my friends use it too . So I would see if i could get different media and try that. I use memorex and tdk both of them are -r. Ask friends to donate a dvd for a good cause.

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kinda confused when you said it works in shop did they use different discs and use same software ? if they did then yes it would be your brand of discs. Can you explain what shop did just for my curiousity.
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Well it might be media. I know both methods , dvd decrypter and stomp recordnow max 4.5 both work. I have not tried alcohol 120 yet but i have heard it works.

I use the first two methods all the time plus most of my friends use it too . So I would see if i could get different media and try that. I use memorex and tdk both of them are -r. Ask friends to donate a dvd for a good cause.

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kinda confused when you said it works in shop did they use different discs and use same software ? if they did then yes it would be your brand of discs. Can you explain what shop did just for my curiousity.
The shop fitted the chip and then produced a DVD-r which worked fine.

The guy in the shop said it was a Ritek one (which according to him is a type of DVD, not a brand??). He told me the best type were Ritek and also that PS2s preffer - media instead of + (lucky as I can do both).
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well ps2 do like -r media better when backing up ps2 games . That is what your wanting to do correct or did i miss read ? cause what i read it sounds like they just made a movie with the dvd and played it . Is that what your wanting to do ? If so that is different directions.

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The guy in the shop had a DVDr copy of tomb raider (not sure what version) that played no problems. I can easily back up movies, but I don't want to do that.

I want to back up my games so I can store the originals safely out of the way.

I am using -r media, but the PS2 isn't recognising it. I was told I need to use Ritech dyed media, but I can't find any for sale locally so I have ordered some off the net.

If I am doing everything correctly, which I think I am, then it's down to the disks I am using. I am copying the image to my HD and then burning at 4x each time.

Isn't there any cracks need applying at all? and would I be better writing at 1x or something?
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Okay just had to make sure you wanted to backup your games. The procedure from above work fine. Also i would just try different media. It does work I use memorex and tdk , -r media .
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Just found a shop near me that does Datasafe disks for cheap and according to a few links on the web these are good for the PS2 (as are Verbatim and TDK, but I can't find any in my area at all!).

I shall try these and let you know what happens.....
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I'd stick with G03 (2x) and G04(4x) Riteks. The older ones aren't very good. You can order them in bulk from Rima.com . Good luck.

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The only ones that I could find at the local store were O1ne disks which are listed here They use the Ritek dye aparantly so I am hoping this will work.

I also read on another guide I found that writing a 1x is best too.

I am setting a test going and will post back shortly.
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Well I tried this at x1 and x4 but still no luck!!!

WTF can I do?

I have some DVR3069-10: Datasafe Ritek (1x/2x) DVD-R coming at some time over the next couple of days from BigPockets and the guy in support there reccond I had a chance with those.

We shall see.

Anyone got any advice??

I just tried a backup of Lord of the rings 2 DVD (movie) and that played fine in the PS2, why won't my backup games work?
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Ok, I got some TDK DVD-r from Tesco and tried them, but it didn't seem to work.

Again I just get the red screen.

These DVDs also have a purple bottom.

This is more and more annoying!
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Just borrowed a mates backup DVD of a different game that works on his PS2 to try mine out. Same thing happens, red screen and no load!!!

He insists it used to play on his PS2 before he sold it and that he had a mesiah2 chip in it. I have the magic 3.1 but I don't think this should make a difference on the media it needs should it?

Why won't mine work and is it time to head back to the shop that fitted it???
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that is what i would do or get another chip put in .
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The guy in the shop said it didn't come with a warranty but the woman on the phone said it did for 12 months, should be fun...

It worked in the shop on his copy, just wondering if a wires loose or something.

But it does play backup DVD movies, so something's working ins't it?
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Right, update:

I took the PS2 back to the modding shop and he told me (after keeping it over night) that the laser wasn't strong enough to play copied DVD-r games. He offered me a new laser for £45 pounds, but warned that it could burn out the PS2 in a month or three as he reckons PS2s have always had very poor lasers and a fault in every model that they are trying to remove at Sony but never manage to do so.

I can play CDr games, DVDr movies, but not DVDr games. How annoying is that.

Well the end of it is that I can't play the games I backed up, so my originals aren't safe after all

I'm thinking of selling this PS2 and then buying a pre-modded one from somewhere else, see if I have any luck this time...
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Man that is odd never heard that before but I am sure it can happen.
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SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I called another store today and told them what the first shop said, they said it was very unlikely. Anyway, I sold my PS2 to my mate for £80 (still works, just not playing DVDr) and bought myself a brand new PS2 which came chipped from the shop at the same time! They also do their own warranty for any reason for the first three months as they have invalidated the new machine warranty with the mod.

Anyway, this PS2 has the Messiah2 chip in it not the magic 3.1 like my last one and it plays the backups I made before!

So I wasn't doing anything wrong at all, it was my chip in the last machine which my mate is going to get replaced with a messiah2 chip anyway.

Thanks for all the advice and help, this is a happy ending...

(do you think I am ok surfing on broadband while my DVD burner is writing another disk from HD image? will it still play ok?)
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that is great news LALA . I am glad it got worked out. My friend has the magic 3.1 chip and i have messiah. We both have no issues but I am glad yours in working . Yes you can surf while burning . I do it all the time. Cheers .


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Also just for record and my curiousity. What program did you decide to use just incase other people read this and wonder what program works.
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I am using DVD Decryptor and burning a 2.4x on Datasafe Media 2xspeed DVDr (ritech dye). They state on the front that they are intended for use on Data, Video and Consoles.

I will be using Nero shortly, but got to add another DVD rom drive as at moment only have CDrw and DVDrw +/-

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