nero image file becomes larger than copied disc? - Club CDFreaks

chevysales · 20-02-2003

trying to burn an image file of an audio disc (awesome stones boot "itchy fingers-some girls outtakes) and the disc is 628mb approx. but when i burn the image file it is 720 mbs making it too large for disc.

i do choose the cddb info (thanx guys) when it pops up is adding the track names to image file not the correct way?

should i do image file without any disc info that cddb offers me?

wtf am i doing wrong when i follw all bero instructions to the point.

tia

chevysales · 20-02-2003

does anyone here have any idea why image file would not be the exact same size as the source?

i have done this with ecdc for over a year and i was always the same size. the same for plextools same size.

i can't understand why the image would go from lets say a 650mb audio disc but when an image is made of it thru nero it ends up about a 720mb image file?

help

*minix* · 20-02-2003

CD-Audio sectors have more bytes (with "information") than data CDRs (data CDs need space for error correction).
That's why data CDs are easier to read: one more error correction layer.

So, in a 650MB CDR there's space for more "data music" than 650MB.
For instance, 750MB audio = 70minutes 50seconds.

You only have to see the minutes. Forget about data capacity in audio CDs.

chevysales · 21-02-2003

min,

thanx for the reply

i understand that but the friggin' image file becomes to big to be burnt to a cd.

when in fact its a audio cd i am copying.

when i try to burn it it says not enough space on cd becasue the image is too big.

*minix* · 21-02-2003

Maybe there are more things apart from audio, hidden data tracks, CD-Extra...
maybe it's protected... dummy files...

I don't know with Nero, but Feurio or EAC will show the exact structure of CDR.
If it's a CD-Extra (audio+data), I think that Nero only shows audio tracks...

Why the image is bigger than it should?
I have no idea. It never happened to me...

chevysales · 21-02-2003

no these are discs i have copied in the past. i wouldn't miss that stuff

ok i just got it to work but by choosing my plextor and not the "image recorder".

what the heck is the image recoder for if not to be used to make an image to save or use?

anytime i use image recoder it will not allow me to burn it to disc saying not enough space on cdr disc for image to go?

thanx again

*minix* · 21-02-2003

Quote:

Originally posted by chevysales
what the heck is the image recoder for if not to be used to make an image to save or use?

I don't know... that's why I say that Nero is ugly and has a confusing interface.
There should be a button "Make an image" and another button "Burn an image" (there's one like the later), but...

Now, it seems that it's buggy in addition to confusing...

chevysales · 21-02-2003

well i will continue to search to find out what the heck is up with it while i continue playing with it to give it a chance.

definetly will look to fuerio for a try also.

there help is lacking cause most rite click context help says "no help topic" and they don't respond to emails they surely need a forum for users to users.

thanx for the help i appreciate it

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20-02-2003	#2 (permalink)
chevysales CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 170	does anyone here have any idea why image file would not be the exact same size as the source? i have done this with ecdc for over a year and i was always the same size. the same for plextools same size. i can't understand why the image would go from lets say a 650mb audio disc but when an image is made of it thru nero it ends up about a 720mb image file? help

20-02-2003	#3 (permalink)
minix CD Freaks Audio Expert Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 940	CD-Audio sectors have more bytes (with "information") than data CDRs (data CDs need space for error correction). That's why data CDs are easier to read: one more error correction layer. So, in a 650MB CDR there's space for more "data music" than 650MB. For instance, 750MB audio = 70minutes 50seconds. You only have to see the minutes. Forget about data capacity in audio CDs.

21-02-2003	#4 (permalink)
chevysales CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 170	min, thanx for the reply i understand that but the friggin' image file becomes to big to be burnt to a cd. when in fact its a audio cd i am copying. when i try to burn it it says not enough space on cd becasue the image is too big.

21-02-2003	#5 (permalink)
minix CD Freaks Audio Expert Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 940	Maybe there are more things apart from audio, hidden data tracks, CD-Extra... maybe it's protected... dummy files... I don't know with Nero, but Feurio or EAC will show the exact structure of CDR. If it's a CD-Extra (audio+data), I think that Nero only shows audio tracks... Why the image is bigger than it should? I have no idea. It never happened to me...

21-02-2003	#6 (permalink)
chevysales CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 170	no these are discs i have copied in the past. i wouldn't miss that stuff ok i just got it to work but by choosing my plextor and not the "image recorder". what the heck is the image recoder for if not to be used to make an image to save or use? anytime i use image recoder it will not allow me to burn it to disc saying not enough space on cdr disc for image to go? thanx again

21-02-2003	#8 (permalink)
chevysales CD Freaks Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 170	well i will continue to search to find out what the heck is up with it while i continue playing with it to give it a chance. definetly will look to fuerio for a try also. there help is lacking cause most rite click context help says "no help topic" and they don't respond to emails they surely need a forum for users to users. thanx for the help i appreciate it