I have copied games using blindwrite, Disc Dump / Fireburner, and CloneCD. If I want to make more copies in the future of these games but no longer have the original CDs, can I make them from the copied CDs or do I need to burn new copies from the disc images?

thanks.

Sure you can copy a copy.

First, that would be illegal. You have to own the original to make only 1 copy.

But there's no especific answer for your question. It depends of the data type. If the games are protected by SecuROM 4.8x you can't make a copy from a copy, unless you're using the RPMS method.

If I'm not mistaken, you can't copy Safedisc 2.8.x "on the fly" because when one backs up from the original copy, you have to read the image file. All the tutorials I've viewed concerning Safedisc 2.8.x shows the dumping of the image(s) to your hd.
If you save the image file(bwa file(s) to your hd then yes, you can create a backup of the original cd (SecuROM 4.8& Safedisc 2.8.x)
I haven't tested "copy on the fly" but will give this a try just for the fun of it (Safedisc 2.8.x). 2 sheep burners will produce "perfect copies" of Safedisc 2.8.x, so you don't need the original cd after you successfully backed up the image. Simply save the image(s) to your hd, if you have enough space
What I consider a "perfect backup" is simply the cd(s) will play in ANY DVD/CD-Rom/CDRW/DVD burner without the need of "additional measures)= Hide CD-R

Shoebedobedoo

If anyone else on this forum is making ONLY LEGAL copies and NEVER makes an illegal copy. . .please post here so I can laugh at you.

Who cares if it's illegal? If I were worried about breaking the law, I wouldn't be copying these games and giving them to my friends. . .oops . . I mean. . . I wouldn't risk copying these CDs to use them to play the game JUST so that I don't scratch the original CD, which I've kept stored away in the original box with original manual. . . Yeah, right.

The moderators , admin and staff of cdfreaks do.

Illegal activities are forbidden on this forum. You knew that when you clicked on "I agree" , you knew that when you read the rules , and as a personal service , i'm telling you it one last final time.

We're trying to run a legitemate forum here so that you can return for more questions without your ip number being notified to the local authoroties because you bragged about your illegal warez like the first script kitty.

capiche ?

I understand your concern as a moderator but I found it HUMOROUS that a user of the forum would lecture me on illegal copying.

Your point is well taken and I shall refrain from posting messages regarding the illegal duplicaiton of games CDs on this forum. I'm probably the only one who's attempted such acts of lawlessness so your forum has nothing to fear, undoubtedly.

And i'm sure the University Of Kansas has absolutely nothing to worry about then.

Because you see , were this a server residing in the United States , the owner of this server was now obliged to tell the local authoroties about your statements.

I'm sure you're aware that university computer terminals are used all time to surf the web and visit sites that are not condoned by the university. If universities policed every IP address and monitored every terminal, they would need more employees than there are students. So you're correct, the University of Kansas has nothing to worry about.

I'm not sure I understand your last statement. So is this server in the US? If not, then you have no obligations to report and this is a non-issue.

There are rules , there are regulations and there is the law.

And you are right , at current time , there are no obligations.

Thread closed , going way too off topic and i am one of the causes of it i'll admit that first.

If you feel the need to discuss this further , pm me or open up a topic in the living room.

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>If I'm not mistaken, you can't copy Safedisc 2.8.x "on the fly"

Yes you can. A Lite-On 163/5 + ASUS burner will do it in CloneCD, Alcohol or DiscJuggler. DiscJuggler is the best SD2 copy app because it reads and writes the 'fake' pre-gap without emulating, like the others do.

FutureProof,
Can you explain the irregularity here? The Polaroid BurnMAX48 can't produce a working backup of The Sims Unleashed using CloneCD! From what I'm reading, certian burners(2 sheep) can beat Safedisc 2.8.x using CloneCD but others can't, like mine

Shoebedobedoo

"Shoebedobedoo" wrote:
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>...From what I'm reading, certain burners (2 sheep) can beat Safedisc 2.8.x using CloneCD but others can't, like mine:

...correct.

I'm happy to report, well, sorta happy anyways that CloneCD did successfully backup Safedisc 2.8.x with my Polaroid BurnMAX48. I found out the media I was using was bad, really bad. I had a chance to grab some Verbatims and CloneCD made me 1 happy fellow

Shoebedobedoo

man some pplcan be down right funny when they try to act non chalont ... did I spell it right?? being foreign and all my spelling sucks and dont get me started on my phrasing ... any way ....
Ops and admins do a good Job in giving us this free services and ppl try to act like they are elete so.. I say good Job guys I have learned a lot in here and would hate to see this all get trashed by script baby's

I disagree on two points here:

1) It is not illegal to make more than one copy of something that you own the original of for purposes of backing up what you have, if it is in any other format, I do not believe that because it comes on CD that it is any different. I.e. if I own an audio CD, I can make copies to put in each car and have one in each CD changer in the house. I cannot sell those copies. If I sell the original audio CD I have to either give the new owner all the backups I made or destroy them.

2) I may not be on correct legal footing here, however, I believe that I am still entitled to own copies of copyrighted information that I unwillingly gave up/lost the original through no fault of my own. Here is my example because it actually happened to me:

I owned and loved my Colecovision, therefore, when Coleco came out with the Adam computer, I saved up and bought one (go ahead and laugh ) . Well, shortly after I bought it, Coleco went out of business and I was only able to get a couple of Adam games on tape. Dragon's Lair was my favorite of them and I played it the entire first summer I owned it. Sometime after that, the tape drive on the Adam ate the game and Coleco was out by that time and there was no way to get another original DL tape new (never checked the used market, mostly because I couldn't drive and my parents never went to those sections of the flea markets in the area I lived at the time). Well, I had no idea how to backup the game on the Adam, I'm not saying there was not a way, however I could not find any way of backing up any of the tape games I still had, after I lost DL. Anyway, although it has been many years since I used my old Adam computer and lost DL, I feel that I still own it because I did not, willingly, give up ownership to it. It was destroyed by the tape drive through no fault of my own, although I will admit, I probably did not make sure the tape was fairly taut (sp?) prior to inserting it into the drive that fateful day. I don't know if the tape games are available for the Adam emulator, however, now I know it is possible to write a copy to another blank Adam tape, only there are no more Adam tapes made anymore. And now, I would feel entitled, if I still had my Adam setup, to write a new DL tape for my own personal collection. Being a dumb kid, even had I been able to back up the game at the time, I probably still would have played the original which would not have changed the outcome except that I would have at least had the backup to continue playing. Nowadays I know better, however, there is still a risk that an original could get damaged through no fault of your own, does that mean you automatically give up your ownership of that material? Legally, that maybe the case, but that does not sit well with me, especially when the material is very hard to impossible to replace (I don't know how hard it would have been to find another DL tape, and it is all moot now, I've moved on).

Now, if I willingly loan out and not get back or lose track of the original material and it is thrown away or otherwise "lost" due to my own negligence, then I would be required to destroy my copies because it was my fault that I no longer have the original copy.

Sorry to be so long, but I do believe that it should be legal to copy a copy, if a copy is all that you have left, in *some* circumstances.