Hello all. Until today, I was simply a lurker/reader. However, with the new problems that I am having, its frustrating to the point where I feel it necessary to post and ask.

I was running AnyDVD 5.6.3.1 with no issues. After having successfully performing an "open disc" on 40 year old virgin, AnyDVD popped up its notification that a new version was available. Wanting to have the latest and greatest, after shutting down AnyDVD and Shrink, I downloaded the newest AnyDVD version, installed it then rebooted.

AnyDVD ran at startup (as always) and appeared to have loaded just fine. I opened up DVD Shrink to finish the backup I had started on right before the upgrade of AnyDVD. I went to "Open Disc" in DVD Shrink, only to get an "Invalid DVD navigation structure".. Ohhkay. From what I can read, this is due to Sony's Accros protection -- but AnyDVD is supposed to take care of this, right...

Hours later, 5.7.2.1 was released due to "a corrupted Porteguese language file." So I tried this version as well... still no go.

I tried copying the VIDEO_TS directory from the DVD to the hard drive then using Shrink to open up that directory. No go. It errors out.

I tried using DVD Decrypter to rip the DVD then was going to use DVD Shrink to reauthor and then finally Nero to burn. DVD Decrypter ripped the DVD without any errors displayed. When I tried to load in the rip with DVD Shrink, again, "Invalid DVD nagivation structure"..

Opteron 280 - 2GB RAM - 7800GTX 512MB - NEC ND3550A DVD-RW - Windows XP Home -- is my setup, incase it helps any.

The machine is Prime, Memtest86 and SuperPi stable and up until this issue, have successfully made 70+ DVD backups.

shrink is a very outdated program and can no longer handle some dvds regardless of whether the protection has been removed or not.

I assure you that anydvd is doing its job. I'd also recommend that you download the free trial of clonedvd from www.slysoft.com I've never had a problem with this program.

if you'd still like to use shrink (which is understandable) the structure needs to be ironed out a bit. If you run the files through VOBBlanker (no need to blank anything, just select input folder, select output folder, and hit process) it should take care of it and then you can open the files in dvd shrink with these problematic titles.

Another thing to try is to fall back onto anydvd 5.6.3.1 and see if shrink works ok with your dvd ?

I must admit i know shrink is not updated anymore and is out of date but it is my favourite choice where and if i can use it....

reverting back isn't going to help. slysoft is aware of the issue and even though its not their problem, with each new update they're working to use anydvd to make dvds work with a program that is out of date (shrink).

probably because so many people like to stick with the old programs that they know.

you can continue to use shrink if you want to run the files through VobBlanker as I described above.

Its not this i think, its because shrink does things that no other program i can find does and to the quality and simplicity it does (believe me i have searched). People always say try CloneDVD, which is defenitely an excellent program. But as far as i can see CloneDVD does not allow you to cut off the exact place of the start and end credits to save on compression. There are numerous times that i have not needed to compress a backup at all using DVDshrink just by cutting off the required amount of end and start credits. Which i would have needed to loose picture quality for the entire movie if i left them in as i would have needed to compress the entire movie.

Nero Recode does offer this feature, but it is a major step backwards from the quality and simplicity of the last version of DVDshrink IMO.

(i hope you didnt mind me posting this on your thread but i just wanted to add my quick opinion)

clonedvd does allow you to cut within chapters. in the preview screen there is a little scissors icon that allows this. so you can get rid of intros or cut of credits to reduce compression.

the only thing that shrink has that i wish clonedvd did is its capacity for mixed compression.

I'm not arguing for one or the other. I have both.

unfortunately though, dvd shrink had to get shut down, and at some point people are going to have to deal with the fact that it no longer works. it's deficiencies are already glaringly obvious, and I salute the folks over at slysoft for even attempting to make dvd shrink salvageable for a little while longer through changes to anydvd.

All I know is. The backup was going as planned and as well as any other of the 70+ that I have done using DVD Shrink before I upgraded to 5.7.1.1

Remember, I was starting the backup on 40 Year Old Virgin when AnyDVD popped up its notification that an update was available. So I halted the backup process, ensured any temp dvd files were deleted.. downloaded 5.7.1.1, installed it, then went to finish where I left off.

But now DVD Shrink gives this error.

Perhaps Im paranoid, but, I'm beginning to think SlySoft 'broke' AnyDVD so that it will only work flawlessly with CloneDVD. Far fetched? I wouldn't count on it. Considering, it's a sure fire way of ensuring people purchase CloneDVD.

It IS SlySoft's "problem" to ensure their program is compatible with the latest versions of all other available software. I assure you with a few Fair Trade Act laws spewed, this would be apparent.

Regardless. I just purchased AnyDVD and CloneDVD despite the problems as a sign of good faith.. though I can tell you, I think CloneDVD stinks compared to DVD Shrink. The simplicity of DVD Shrink (not overly simplistic, but, extremely simple to understand) is there. CloneDVD at first glance is "simple" but, too simple. Too simple meaning, the "extra features" if any, aren't as easily comprehensable as they are in DVD Shrink.

Either way. I'm hopeful someone still has 5.6.3.1 so that I can revert back to that and give things a try. IF it works, then I would expect any future version of AnyDVD to work as well. New copyright schemes means simply, -additional- procedures/functions in AnyDVD... "additional".. not "new".. which ARE placed there to add new features to circumvein the -new- copyright protections. There really is no reason why it should hinder DVD Shrink useless.

Again, if anyone has 5.6.3.1, please send the setup/installation program to jakeharding@removeme.gmail.com -- I would greatly appreciate it.

Ok, my mistake

I am lucky in that i have never come across this problem before then !

i guess that's your opinion. if you think so poorly of slysoft that they would stoop to making anydvd solely compatible with clonedvd, no one has forced you to buy either program. there are free alternatives to both.

have you tried the vobblanker solution?

I wish you luck in finding the older version of anydvd.

Emailed to you 5.6.3.1 and 5.6.1.1

Regards

Dave

edit: I dont think slysoft would do that (incompatible with shrink) as they are a pretty good bunch, always on the ball and they dont have to iron out problems with shrink but they always seem to give it a go and usually succeed

Keep in mind that Slysoft only sell on CloneDVD2 - they dont write or own it - it belongs to Elby.

James from Slysoft has explained before that AnyDVD tries to be very specific on how it removes protection and leave the original DVD structure as intact as it can. There have been a few updates that have had knock on effects to older discs (I seem to remember something about the Star Wars discs that wouldn't backup after an update). As soon as these problems become apparent Slysoft issue an update.

I would imagine that there is a huge customer base out there for people who do not use CloneDVD2 (Shrink, 1-Click, and dare I say it X Copy) who look for AnyDVD to just remove the protection. So to make it only compatabile with CloneDVD2 would just loose them sales.

Whilst i have never had a problem like this with anydvd and shrink, i also have dvdfab platinum and css free from dvdidle and at least 10% of the time i had to use vobblanker to make the files compatible for shrink to read..

I hope you are ready for the influx of spam posting your email address here - the spam bots will most likely already be in action - I would ask a mod to edit your post and remove your email address!!

Hello,
It would help that user with problems @ beginning of thread. If he read the replies he got on the other forum. They answered his problem some time ago. There's no need to revert back to earlier versions. Just get the latest 5.7.2.1.
There was a problem with 5.7.1.1. Which is why 5.7.2.1. came out so soon after. See this post. Hope I've entered this correctly.

Ehh, crud. Meant to add the traditional "removeme" to it, just skipped my mind.

As for the loss of sales for conducting such business tactics, negative. AnyDVD is the chosen protectional removal program/tool. It's no secret. But, again, I was just going out on a limb. I would certainly hope this would not be the case... though, I've yet to receive a response to my latest support ticket submission. We'll see what becomes of all of this. I truly hope I'm wrong... infact, I want SlySoft to prove me wrong.

I'll contact a moderator.. but, yes, can a moderator please edit my email address to include "removeme" somewhere there? TIA!

the only problem with 5.7.1.1 was a corrupt language pack...

Hello,
reasonsnotrules, I do not know about these things, but thought if 1 file was corrupt. That might cause problems in the smooth running of the program.
Anyway being connected to the internet + antivirus and who knows what. Surely that could cause problems?

Sorry read the thread, v5.7.2.1 did not solve it for him, and neither for me.
I still canot back it up, and as for the conspiracy that it onlyu works with clone, well you can forget that, i use clonedvd and cannot backup with that copy.
Anyway anyone can send me the old version on anydvd that works for this DVD? second time i run into this, the other was bewitched.

Hi
section4, I believe soulsurvivor is referring to a thread in a different forum. Not CDFreaks. The post reference to differences in 5.7.2.1 / 5.7.1.1 is valid in so much that 5.7.1.1. did have a corrupt file. For me all versions of AnyDVD since 5.6.1.1 & including 5.7.2.1. have worked for that particular DVD.
"Region 2 UK"
See your PM.

Having the same error since upgrading from AnyDVD 5.6.3.1 to 5.7.2.1 when ripping using Nero 6. Occurs with newer movies like Brothers Grimm and Cinderella Man. Region 1 USA.