With Alcohol 120% I made a perfect 1:1 copy of my new Iron Maiden "Dance of Death" CD. It is protected with Copy Controlled protection. I have liteon 40-12-48. I've found out, that if reading the CD from beginning there are about 17000 read errors, which would take days to pass...

S I set
-Skill reading errors
-Fast skip error blocks
-Advanced sector scanning

Before I started to make image in options->general->reading I set the Default A.S.S Jump Factor to 17000.

With this settings my copy came out 100% 1:1.

Alcohol 120% did it again!


For those of you who want to know how I found out those 17000 sectors. In image making wizard in Alcohol 120%, I double clicked on the first track on CD so the Sector viewer poped up. Then I manualy tried to read sector 1 then 2,100,1000,15000 all came out with unrecovered read error. Then I tried sector 17000 which was readable and if then I tried to read sector 0-15000 all were readable with no info on them.

Anyway this worked for me just fine.
With Nero I managed to copy the CD too, but when I listened the copy, there weren't the first 5 seconds of the first track.

hello

thank you for letting us know how you by passed the protection.

Did you try to copy it with EAC, Fuerio or CDex??
Those programs are really made for audio back-ups.

I wanted 1:1 copy, coz on the CD there is also a data session and I wanted it on copied CD too. I dunno if this is possible with EAC.

But one interesting thing about EAC. I tried the same cd on the computer with old Teac 55S, the EAC showed me only 12 data tracks so I couldn't do anything. Anyway, I've tried several times to insert CD into ROM device and sometimes the drive showed me only 1 session where audio tracks were "audio", so I ripped them into mp3 with EAC without any problem.

i had that problem also.....1 track..always beeing shown as data track

i solved that with fuerio

thanx again for the info

Hello! Well, it has a hidden file version.txt in the 'player' folder with 2 lines of text:

CDS200.0.4
4.0 build 10b

So I think it's cactus data shield. Well, my pioneer dvd-106 couldn't read it, but Teac cd W552E read it perfectly. It even played fine in WMP! I used EAC and it showed another track which was data! (Of course I didn't want that ripped)!!
I ripped it track by track using the default parametres, it gave copy quality 97% and it sounds fine till now!

You can't copy "1:1" CDS200 CDs. Some of the original data is erased at the factory while making the glass master. Different drive will recover more or less of it, according to their hardware error correction ability, but never all. What can't be recovered is more or less interpolated, according to the drive hardware, leading to more or less clicks in the final wavs.
It's all a matter of drive.

IRON MAIDEN Dance of death
no protection here
scanned with clony
made image with alcohol and nero also ripped to mp3 with audiograbber just to test.........
burned with the nero image
drives used liteon 40125s (zsop) and sony dru500ax (2.0f)

How did you solved that with feurio and with which version ?
I'm asking you because i have the same CD-Writer(yamaha 2100e) and reader(toshiba 1712) as you do , and i'm having difficulties copying "dance of death".

I dunno about fuerio, but in EAC if you see only data tracks, try Actions->TOC Alterations->Detect TOC Manually. It worked for me, I was able to rip all the tracks into mp3 without problem.

Just for info, on Iron Maiden CD the TOC is illegal on purpose, so that some drives don't see audio tracks on it instead they see data tracks long 10 seconds.

not possible

the copy protection is CDS200.0.4 4.0 build 10b

the most important for passing audio-copy-protection is the hardware!
best programs are EAC, Plextools and Feurio

Speedy

The JUdas...

you can't rip it??

Try to fisrt start Feurio..and then load the cd.......try the same with eac or cdex (or even burnatonce)

I finally managed to rip it with EAK by using the way Zurbum said (detect TOC manually).

I didn't know it was so easy
At first I kept putting the CD first and afterwards loading EAK or Feurio and the result was that i couldn't rip it.

Yes damiandimitri, Yamaha drives always show CDS200 Track01 as data but no other tracks; whereas some plextors are fooled and others are not such as the Plexwriter.

-The felt pen trick defeats the data shield (remeber that). That data shield is not on Session 1.

It is impossible to make a 1.1 backup of CDS200. The CIRC EFM (Hardware) errors will not copy, though they can be filled with dummy sectors...never copy them.

The SafeDisc technology also use can be copied with Clone or Alcohol and using the right hardware.

The illegle TOC which consists of an illegle Lead-In on Session 1 will either be read resulting in a BLANK track 01 or it will be ignored resulting in a valid Track 01 but it will NEVER copy the TOC as both.

Most drives will either ignore the data shield, resulting in Session 1 as AUDIO or they will be fooled by it resulting in Session 1 being written as DATA. No way to copy this process you have to rebuild it.

The subchannled errors shouldn't be a problem.

When I try to rip with EAC I get this error message:

"Exact Audio Copy couldn't detect a matching read command for this CD-ROM drive.

You should try to activate the autodetection of the read command in the drive options dialog.

If you have to select a specific read command, e.g. because autodetection hand the system, you should make sure to select the correct one !"

I have selected detect TOC manually, and The read command is set to autodetect. What could be the problem here? Thanks in advance.

Sounds like your CD-ROM drive is doing a poor job at handeling the errors.

If it's CDS200 try covering up the data session with a water based felt pen. You only need to make a few lines on the disc until data session is ignored, then you can erase it later with some water.

However the errors you are getting are either due to subchannel errors or the CIRC errors thus you may need to use another drive if all else fails.

hey i ripped iron maiden dance of death copy controlled with catus data shield with eac with my old lg 4120b which is a sheep one burner and my lg 52x cdrom.
i suppose if u could rip it can be copied also.
with my new lite-on any cactus data shield is a piece of cake
like the one in asian dub foundation
and the on in deep purple - bananas

i could even rip the newer cactus dat shield with easy cd-da extractor 6.2 with an average speed of 18x

I've ripped habibi nour el ain with freerip. It has CDS 200.0.4 4.0 build 10b. It makes perfect tracks except track one makes a quick wierd noise at startup. I ripped it using a epo DVD Drive.

The audio cd I am unable to copy is "Al Green - I can't stop" that is protected by Cactus CDS200.5.0.151 version.
What can I do?
I get random clicks & skips with every software and every device: (Pioneer dvd 106, Toshiba dvd 1612, Lite-On cdr 16102, Plextor 54 cdrom, and even with my good old Ultraplex 32 scsi).
Any tips or settings in Alcohol to obtain a good quality copy?

You should get rid of skips reading at low speed (4x).
The clicks, on the other hand, are hardware dependant. Either you play the CD in a hifi player and record it through the soundcard, either you try the deglitch freeware in order to process the clicked wav files, hoping it will remove the clicks.

I haven't tried Alcohol with this version, but there's some advise
about the issue in this thread. I’d say at least one of your plexies should be able to do the job.