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Old 16-02-2005   #151 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

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Old 16-02-2005   #152 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

I've tried playing it in Napster, and it works fine.. I'll try WMP once I get home from work.
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Old 16-02-2005   #153 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

That would suck if it were the case..... I hope they havent shut out my winamp method. I use it to transfer my (bought and paid for) napster files to my old non-wma9-supporting player.
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Old 16-02-2005   #154 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

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That would suck if it were the case..... I hope they havent shut out my winamp method. I use it to transfer my (bought and paid for) napster files to my old non-wma9-supporting player.
I have also noticed that most of Eminem's Encore CD has recently changed from being all downloadable to almost every song a "Must Buy". I downloaded all of it less than a week ago, and I checked back yesterday and only a few songs are downloadable. Hopefully Napster isn't starting to change a lot of the music over...

Is it confirmed that there is a way to re-encode the files in Winamp at faster than 1x speed? I have been using output stacker/lame encoder and it's been working great (thanks warlock). I have converted nearly 3 GB to MP3. However, if there is a way to speed up the process, I would love to know about it. Thanks.
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Old 16-02-2005   #155 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

If you're using the LAME encoder, you don't need Output Stacker.

You can speed things up by using multiple instances of Winamp.

Both of these have already been mentioned earlier in the thread.
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Old 16-02-2005   #156 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

Looks like i'm not the only one with the same problem.. someone else in another blog on the same subject has the same "Acquiring License" issue:

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the process was working fine yesterday, then I tried it today and when I play the downloaded tracks in winamp I get a message that it is trying to Acquire License and then nothing happens? any ideas?
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Old 16-02-2005   #157 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

Everyone should take a look at Replay Music 2.0

http://www.replay-music.com/index.php

This will work with napster, real rhapsody, etc. It will even tag the songs! Works like a charm! It is quite steep though in price but comes with a free trial (25 trial downloads). Check it out...

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Old 16-02-2005   #158 (permalink)
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I tried downloading a new song just now, and winamp just freezes at "Acquiring License" before giving up.

Seems like the new licenses no longer allow winamp to play the songs.. bummer

I also noticed some songs that were previously downloadable are now "buy only". Anyone else noticed that?
I just downloaded a new song and it seems to work fine still...

@ZeroSignal - I had the same problem as ganryu... when I don't use Output Stacker and just use the Lame encoder it freezes up my Winamp. Can anybody tell me where to get the latest version of the Lame encoder?
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Old 16-02-2005   #159 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

The link for the lame encoder is in my post on the previous page.
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Old 16-02-2005   #160 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

Sorry, but I meant for the 3.97 Alpha 7 lame_enc.dll file, not the Winamp plugin.

Ganryu where did you get yours? I can usually find this stuff but for some reason i'm having a tough time today.

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Ah. Downloaded 3.97 alpha 7 to replace 3.96, works great now. Thanks!

By the way, this page seems to be hosting output stacker -> http://blog.kordix.com/marv/archives/000400.html

Not sure why you'd need it though
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

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Old 16-02-2005   #162 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

I found out that out_lame 1.63 (with the latest lame_enc.dll) still crashes for me, but only if I load multiple winamp instances at the same time.

I've given up trying to get it to work, and decided to use output stacker instead. It doesn't seem like just the lame plugin alone is faster (or significantly faster) than real time anyways, and I just turn the winamp volume down... Not a big deal.
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

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Sorry, but I meant for the 3.97 Alpha 7 lame_enc.dll file, not the Winamp plugin.

Ganryu where did you get yours? I can usually find this stuff but for some reason i'm having a tough time today.
Google's your best friend

I just googled for "3.97 Alpha 7", and I got this as a first link: http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.html
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Old 16-02-2005   #164 (permalink)
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Google's your best friend

I just googled for "3.97 Alpha 7", and I got this as a first link: http://www.rarewares.org/mp3.html
Hmm... still doesn't work without Output Stacker, evern with one instance of Winamp... oh well. Thanks anyway.
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Old 16-02-2005   #165 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

Anybody see the Napster CTO's reply? He seems to think the method involves looping the sound...did anyone tell him this performs bit-level copying, resulting in a transcode rather than an audio loop?
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Old 17-02-2005   #166 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

For people that are using multiple copies of winamp:

Instead of using output_ds for the first plugin, you can also use output_null (a plugin from the winamp site) and it then plays, but silently. Works just fine for me.
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Old 17-02-2005   #167 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details.php?id=28451

(Null Output Plugin page)
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Old 17-02-2005   #168 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

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I appreciate your passion for owning a "real" copy of the music. ... But to me, the real issue is about ownership. If you download a song, then you ought to have the same rights to it as someone purchasing a CD. You ought to be able to burn it to whatever you want, whenever you want. Basically you get screwed for not buying a hard copy. When you download a song, you don’t get the full rights to the music, which isn’t fair.

The same applies to Audible.com (I download a lot of books). I convert those using Goldwave, but the principle is still the same. If you pay for it, you should get full usage.
It’s a shame that honest people like myself, who never pirate anything have to resort to these tactics to make our copy fully usable.
But it gets worse. I bought the Velvet Revolver CD (the real deal factory copy) from Best Buy for $12.99. And when I tried to rip it, it turns out that it is 'unrippable' and only has premade tracks on it in, you guessed it, WMA format. So if you have an IPod, you're out of luck w/o resorting to crazy means to make them mp3. To make matters worse, I was on Itunes and saw the velvet revolver cd for $9.99. So basically I paid too much money for a cd with music I can't use on my Ipod.

Talk about getting screwed. So much for having all the rights to the music by buying a cd! Now we have to worry about picking and choosing which format to purchase music in depending on whether we want to load wma files onto a compatible portable player, or use an IPod.

There has to be a better way for the music industry to deal with the digital music age...
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Old 17-02-2005   #169 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

Well this is annoying. First time I ever thought of trying Napster out and guess what? I can't sign up because I live in New Zealand. If someone could contact me (PM) and sign me up for a 14 day free trial I'll be very thankful, it appears you can sign in if you already have an account so I would be able to take it from there.
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Old 17-02-2005   #170 (permalink)
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

Now lets say you got all these wav files piling up, what is the best way to make some fresh new MP3s outta these (other than winamp, it's busy making wav's ) some great freeware?
thanks everyone on advance
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

I've noticed Dietmar's Output Stacker has been removed from the WinAmp plug-ins page, and it's been a pain to find it elsewhere (using Google). I finally found it using Yahoo.

The link was found on www.tech-recipes.com and it was posted by AlextheBeast. Thanks Alex!

New download link for output stacker:
http://marv.kordix.com/Output_Stacker.exe

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Old 17-02-2005   #172 (permalink)
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SOLUTION: VIRTUOSA 128 kbps encoding

Guys - you're absolutely missing this. The easiest, and FASTEST WAY to do this (time is of the essence since you have 14 days free trial of napster and 14 days free trial of Virtuosa) is to do the following:

1) DOWNLOAD EVERYTHING YOU CAN OFF NAPSTER.
2) DOWNLOAD VIRTUOSA.
3) SET VIRTUOSA WMA-->MP3 TO 128 Kbps, 44.1 kHz MP3 encoding.
4) DEPENDING ON YOUR SYSTEM, ENCODE 50-100 SONGS AT A TIME.

This is lightyears ahead of the realtime/streaming recording to wav/mp3, and the output quality will be substantially better. If you try and encode at 192, it will not work. 160 occasionally works, but 128 is a LOCK. It's money!

My system is like 2.6ghz, 1028ram, etc., and I was able to add 400+ wma tracks, go to sleep, and let virtuosa do its thing. When I woke up, I had 400+ mp3s, free and clear of DRM.

Forget about everything else: I've tried everything else, from unfuck to the recording software - all of which worked, but absolutely nothing works as easily and quickly as Virtuosa.

VIRTUOSA DOWNLOAD

NAPSTER TRIAL LINK

GET TO IT!!!
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Re: SOLUTION: VIRTUOSA 128 kbps encoding

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This is lightyears ahead of the realtime/streaming recording to wav/mp3, and the output quality will be substantially better. If you try and encode at 192, it will not work.
Not sure that I can agree... Why will 192 and 160 not work? You're forced to use CBR encoding? Is any kind of bandpass filtering being done? What do the filenames turn out like? Is the tagging done for you? What encoding technology is being used? Franhaufer? Xing? Lame? There are significant differences... Seems like the Winamp method is still using a bit-level copy. Either way, you're forced into transcoding... And with the out_lame plugin, at least I know what is happing as far as the encoding scheme. Plus, I'm a registered Napster member, too, so time isn't as crucial for me.
Sorry, but the details on Virtuosa seem too hidden to me (so far). I have yet to fully try it myself, though, so I could be mistaken. Seems like the LAME encoding will be higher quality in the end, though, which is what I want, even if it requires extra time. All depends on your end goals, though.
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Old 17-02-2005   #174 (permalink)
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Virtuosa sounds promising: http://www.virtuosa.com/faq.htm#mp3convert
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The bottom line is that Virtuosa supports both the most popular (Lame) and the highest quality (Fraunhofer) mp3 encoders. Make sure you downloaded the latest version of Virtuosa on http://www.virtuosa.com and look for the "mp3 upgrade" link in the File menu.
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Re: How to burn or crack protected WMA files?

I don't see "MP3 Upgrade" under the file menu. Also, 3 questions below in the FAQ mentioned above it states this:

DRM problem: secure Wma file unable to convert.

"I am trying to convert WMA files to MP3 format. I was able to do that with the trial version of Virtuosa but now I get an error message that says: "Virtuosa cannot convert or copy the existing song... the source file has been secured!""

The wma (Digital Rights Management => drm) protected file you bought legally is copy-protected, that is why you are not allowed to convert it. Otherwise it would allow users to distribute protected files freely (wma/drm) by converting them into mp3, which is an unsecure file format.

This is not Virtuosa’s fault at all, but it is due to the way wma/drm works. You will not find any player/jukebox on the market allowing that, because of the agreements with the DRM technology providers and the music content providers. A previous version of Virtuosa did allow this, but it was due to a bug and we had to correct it in order respect our agreements.

Does this proggy work or not? And must you add your own codec to try to attempt wma to mp3 conversion?

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