I urge people to hold off on buying Tunebite and wait for Muvaudio. Its next release will blow away Tunebite.

Heck, the current version of MuvAudio blows away Tunebite. And it's freeware to boot. I can't understand why ANYONE is using Tunebite at this point, except because they foolishly paid for it and think that because of that, they have to continue to use it...

I second that! I switched from using tunebite to using Muvaudio. It's free and it is WAY better!

altavista baby!?


oops i had a typo

Okay, is this thread How to burn or crack protected WMA files, or is it about realtime recording? I'm growing very tired of the muvaudio and tunebite crap. Back to making the songs we legally buy capable of being put onto a cd, guys! FOCUS!

Sorry, but the answer IS that "crap". That is, unless you want to discuss cracking DRM, which is illegal, may violate this board's TOS, *and* has already been blocked more than once by M$, RIAA, etc. over the life of this all-too-long thread.

But then, most of this thread is NOT about songs you "legally buy", such as purchased CDs and songs you paid 99c or so to download; most of those can be burned directly or with DRM burn rights (even on the mini-files of many copy-protected CDs), and if you don't know how to do that, all I can say is RTFM. Rather, it's about recording "rented" music from subscription services, which is NOT your music at all. I think it's illegal, but nonetheless the "analog loophole" of realtime recording can't be closed.

Why don't you stop flaming people who are telling you the truth, just because you can't seem to handle it?

Moderators, IMHO it's WAY past time to close this thread. It's down to just (a) hack talk and (b) flaming those who discourage hack talk.

Well, just a second there, I still have a question or 2 before you close the thread
I curently use Tunebite, and tried to use Muvaudio too, but I don't see the big difference that is posted here, and after all, at least at the moment Tunebite is working perfectly for my needs and I have technical support too, if I'm too dummy and need assistance

Ups..didn't ask the question I wanted after all...Can anyone here, Muvaudio fans, tell which are these big differences or better yet advantages of Muvaudio ?

Those of us beta testing are sworn to secrecy at the moment. The current version provides better quality audio than Tunebite, but frankly the comparison will be moot with the next MuvAudio release. There will be absolutely no reason why anyone would want to ever run Tunebite again after that.

The new version shouldn't be too far off.

You're the first person to say that. If you don't like it then you know not to click this link in the future.

This thread benefits many people or else it wouldn't be as long as it is.

Even moderators post in this thread so I doubt it will be closed just because you don't like it

It's coming in the end of June. I also beta test

yes please don't close this thread... day in and day out i check this particular thread (hasn't been directly bookmarked so i got the long way) in hopes that the drm is cracked... :P

The DRM will always be cracked even if I have to bind a microphone to my speakers and I will still crack it
But another problem came to my mind:

- MuvAudio-
It's a free software, ok. It uses the Microsoft Framework Service, so it is quite simple application the uses the resources of the Windows OS, and it should be almost bug-free from this reason, as Tunebite was developed in the classical way of programming. Anyway, the interface looks very nice, and has nice features too.
For the moment you have the posibility to donate via PayPal for this software, not compulsory, of course.
In the software market, such cute applications, which also work well, are intended to be sold to bigger companies, from the developers that originally made them, and this companies have the resources to spread them on the market.
So, with this new release that is coming, I can't stop thinking about seeing a shareware license on this MuvAudio if it will be so spectacular.
I hope you don't mind me saying, but I can't what big-differences can be between this one and Tunebite, for example. Maybe I'm too narrow-minded
Can't wait to see the new release though

They are going to be using a program to get digital copies of your music without losing any quality.

Just go the the MUV Audio web site on the news page....it basically explains it all.

I am glad to see that more and more people finally understand.
Read my previous posts and you'll be all set.

What the " MuvAudio" guys are trying to do is exactly what I described in this forum earlier. MuvAudio is embedding a "virtual cable" in its program.

I suggested already weeks ago that all you need to get 100% digital music is "Muvaudio" and a sound card with "digital wire" capabilities. (like the Audiotrak Maya MK44). This card has a patented feature called "DirectWire" and this does it all.

Yeah, but I used the trial version and I noticed absolutely no difference between using Virtual Audio Cable and not using it.

I agree.

Tunebite is now upto v1.3.0.0 and it has wma encoder and fix's..

The only thing Tunebite has over Muvaudio right now is that Tunebite no longer cuts off the first 1-2 seconds of each song and Muvaudio still does. However, in late June the new release of Muvaudio will be out and it will also fix that bug. There is one more thing to add to the Muvaudio side - you will get a digital copy

Keep your eyes out for that.

I thought that tunebite gave you digital as well. Like, it converts from digital to analog then back to digital.hmmm. when I tried Muvaudio, it didnt cut any seconds off, it just sounded like fingernails on a blackboard(expression meaning it sounded like crap). It might just be my soundcard though. Well, I know that I am excited over Tunebite allowing conversions straight to WMAs, because you can burn alot more wmas on a cd than wavs. My car cd player will play wav and wma, but not mp3. So I was having to use musicmatch to convert the mp3 into wav. This is so awesome. I can now save cd space AND play my music on cd. Thank you tunebite!!!

It probably didn't cut off the first second because you weren't using a playlist. You probably did it manually or only had one song.

You could've just installed the MP3 encoder in Tunebite and loaded the files into WMP to burn and it would've converted it all and you could've burned a lot more songs than what you were previously doing.

I have been following this thread for a while and all of the things listed in this thread I have tried but didn't work. The Tunebite seesm to work well, especially the new version with no pauses etc.

I would like to say that the concerns about a true digital copy are unfounded, no picking on you toasters..just using you as an example here.

I used to to design and test computer codecs probably most of you have one of my old companies products on your computer now. Those of you using Tunebite will have a copy that is just as good as the original in most cases. Understand that the the digital to analog to digital conversion all happens inside of the codec and never actually leaves it. Most codecs are about the size of a pinky figernail and have great noise sheilding, etc It might not be apparent to most but current codecs can produce sound quality on par or even better than the most expensive home systems.

Those of you that have chose to use a Line Out to Line In strategy will not fair as well since you are opening yourselves up for some noise.

With the exception of the old ISA computers I can't see why the newer computers cannot reproduce the songs almost perfectly with today's equipment. I used to have a 20,000 Audio Precision instrument at my disposal and trust me plenty of tests were done. If there was any difference at all even the most decerning ear couldn't pick it up.

So far Tunebite and MuvAudio seem to be the best bet. Good Luck.

No, what you said is unfounded.

The creator of Muvaudio herself said it is a complete digital copy.

Do a little bit of research on Virtual Audio Cable

I can totally agree. It's true that when you say completly digital transformation, one can think that there will be no quality loss compared to digital-analog-digital system. But after all, considering that both processes take place on the same sound card the difference in quality can be detected only with dedicated tools that analyze it, and not in any case by human ear, except, of course, if we have among us really gifted people that can listen to special frequencies

Ahhh...and one more thing...I posted a reasonable question, at least in my opinion , what do the beta-testers from MuvAudio think? will this software have a shareware license after the new release or not ?