[quote=digitallica]Perhaps it's over for THAT program. However, I have a feeling there are others out there that are working. But, if you post them on a public forum then yes, the days will be over.

digitallica-
None taken. I really do appreciate your solutions - it's just that we always know that realtime recording will be there when we need it. There have been tons of "Use tunebite" or "Use MuvAudio" replys, and we know that they are legit options. I guess what I meant was that there is no point in rehashing the solutions we've got - we know Tunebite works, so instead of keep talking about it, let's work on something new. Make sense?

Everybody-
Any progress on the Qplayer or other fronts? I really like the idea of using the WMP .dll file to trick some of the other programs. I think that's where our success will lie (since it's something that would hard for them to fix) - actually using the DRM itself to unlock the songs (iOpener style).

Keep working on the Quintessential Player front - it worked for me a few months ago and that was only by accident, so I bet with a little tweaking it could work again. And, the old version is still available! http://quinnware.com/

[quote=toasters]Thats because there are always people in the crowd that spoil it for all of us. And it's also why alot of forums are closed to afew friends. I have a protected wma someone sent me so I am working on it on & off.

I promise to keep it to myself, if anyone wants to pm me what progy is working now!

Sorry guys, what I was saying is that if someone had a progy they could pm me and I would keep my trap shut. Not that I had one, but that I need one!

Sorry again, If I find a progy I know who to pm!

P.S. I feel like a ass now, lol!

oh sure you show up and want to get the fixes sent to you. you work for riaa by chance? give me a break.

I love it! LOL

The way I'm understating DRM, is that there is a check against a list of authorized applications eg: wmp 10 that are able to play the file, it also checks to make sure license is valid. (if this is incorrect let me know)

Has anyone tried using a hex editor to change the application name of Virtuosa, MMJB etc, to something else to get around the drm application check?

Dont be a ass, I read were others had posted the same and figured it couldnt hurt.

If only it were that easy...everything is encrypted many times over. this stuff is created by some real smart people, no first time cracker is going to be able to get it figured it out.

check out emusic.com ................. right now theyre giving u 100 songs free, then its either 19.99 a month for 90 mp3s a month, 14.99 a month for 65 mp3s, and 9.99 for 40 downloads a month......its just a suggestion

seriously, if one average joe can get their hands on software to decode drm songs, then it will be bound to hit the internet sometime... no matter how private the groups are, there will be one that releases it to the wild...

hackers/crackers strive on notoriety and the quicker they release programs that hack programs, the bigger reputation they get...

but there also might be those that already know how to bypass drm that really, REALLY don't like sharing...

i just hope the one that finally breaks the protection is the sharer... cause in the end, sharing is caring...

I agree with others that talk of TuneBite and MuvAudio is a waste of time. Yes they work, but it's already been offered at length. So please stop suggesting these programs unless you have a NEW DEVELOPMENT in how to improve their process (new version, non-realtime, digital-to-digital conversion, etc.).

Lets strive to find the next real-time digital-to-digital conversion.

To the guy who said "the days of MMJB are over" I disagree. We said the same thing at the fall of Virtuosa, then the fall of Acoustica, and now the fall of MMJB. Is there a way? Almost definatly. The hard part is discovering it.

Keep hoping Buddy, while I am converting 6 albums every night 100% digital.

Also, keep posting things like "Let's do this... let's do that" (very useful info)

Latest News: "MuvAudio" has removed version 9.6 & 9.7 from their website and is back to version 9.55

Just wondering if they got a call from Micro$oft !?!?

well til the next find let's just talk some more spam... it gives me something to read everyday in hopes that some brilliant 12 year old hacker will come up with the next solution! :P

Why would they have gotten a call from Microsoft? I was under the impression that it is perfectly legal to use such programs... correct me if I'm wrong, but why would Microsoft have anything to do with a perfectly legal tool that is just exercising your fair use rights?

DRM is all about making money no one cares if we have rights everyone is falling for the infested crap and none want to have any say I guess. Oh well maybe someday I dunno if your exercising your rights using that recorder cause I thought that DRM Crap was for no rights to access inless they tell you.

Like I said "I am just wondering........."

The real question is "Why are the 2 latest " MuvAudio" versions removed?"

It looks to me that somebody got pi$$ed.

Think about it.

Evidently they aren't too scared. I just went someplace to get the 0.9.7 Beta and the following popped up.

MuvAudio has entered private beta testing for v1.0. It is expected to be released by the end of June. It will include new features using a complete digital/digital conversion method for the ultimate in sound quality. Keep your eye on www.muvaudio.com for news relating to your favorite real-time recording solution.

Thank you,

Renzska

Go to muvaudio.com to enter your email address to be notified of the release of MuvAudio V1.0.

In the meantime, you can download also download MuvAudio v0.9.5505 from our download page at muvaudio.com.

From reading the Forum on the Muv site it looks like the developer is simply going to use the virtual audio cable to get the digital copy.

sometimes you can make Evil work on your side

BILLY could but he's tricky

wtf is that supposed to mean? I must have tried at least 20 different conversion programs, but I believe they all had features programmed in to prevent drm file converting. No luck here yet guys.

edit> even with the digital audio cable, unless they come up with some sort of array or recording, such as creating virtual audio cards and then recording 3 or so songs at a time, its still not worth real time recording.

Even with virtuosa I was only able to get about 10,000 - 12,000 files converted in my spare time.

Now lets look at it this way

10,000 x 3 (avg min. per song) = 30,000 min.

30,000 / 60 (min. per hour) = 500

500 / 24 (hours per day) = 21 (rounded) days of nothing but recording.

3 min. per song is a HUGE understatement as well. Now if they had it even with lets say, 5 virtual cards going at one time, it would still nearly take 5 days. Which is still 5 times more than it took me on mmjb with my low end system.

It looks like muv is going to be able to do multiple streams, but it still isn't worth it in my opinion.

How much music can you actually listen to per day????

Your post looks more like some geek is obsessed with numbers.

I thought this forum is about "how to burn protected WMA files" and not "who converts the most songs in the shortest amount of time"

In your particular case I'd recommend "OCD" treatment.

if you get it cool
if not sorry
i thought it was clear

You obviously don't know what pissed means... if I were pissed would I have used all periods instead of exclamation marks?

Yes, you said you were just wondering. I'm only helping to clear that up for you.

Think about it