Celine Dion - Club CDFreaks

serpentuk · 31-03-2002

I found out today that the New Celine dion Album cant be played on the pc...i wasnt upset as i dont like her but you know are all cd's going to be like that and can you still copy them?

RangerDulann · 01-04-2002

If it's up to the record industry all cds are going to be protected like that. Cock suckers!

I've read in some other thread that a few (Toshiba?) DVD-rom players can handle these protected cds.
You can also copy it with CloneCD and then play it.

**Da_Taxman** · 01-04-2002

must you use such harsh language?
How would you feel it when it was your money the people were stealing? I'd try to protect my money as well.

But so far there hasn't been a protections that could not be circumvented...for backup purposes of course.

Where LiteOn is known for its capabilities to backup SafeDisc protected games, Plextor is known for its capabilities to backup protected audio cds. You can read more in the Plextor and CloneCD forums. Feurio and ExactAudioCopy are very capable programs as well.

The purpose of the companies is not to make it impossible (they too know that it is impossible), but to make it as hard as possible. When they can prevent the average Joe to make illegal copies, they can limit the damage considerably....

RangerDulann · 01-04-2002

My problem with the record industry is that you have to pay more and more for a product that you can do less with.

And the protection schemes used can cause trouble:
-There have been reports that protected audio cds can't be played in certain cd-walkmans, car stereo systems, even some DVD-players.

You buy it, you own it. It's the same as if a car manufacturer would tell me: "You are allowed to drive your car in France, but not in Spain."
If I buy a cd, I want to play it in my car, my pc, my walkman, my stereo. And if I feel like it, I'll use it as a frisbee.

By the way, I always buy my cds in the store. And if find a protected one, its going straight back.

*dansmug* · 01-04-2002

Bizzness is taking over politics. Too bad people (mostly) don't react, but what could we expect. Almost everyone has been made braindead by the media.

suomynona · 18-06-2002

What kind of protection is used on Celine's A NEw Day Has Come album? I can 'backup' amost everything, but this CD just won't let me. The led keep flashing but nothing works so far. CloneCD can't even scan the CD! Is my drive gone to h*ll or what is going on here?

suomynona
-don't take the short way to heaven

spunkser21 · 18-06-2002

Copy protection is a funny thing.

Some people, companies, goverment bodies say that the use of copy protection reduces piracy. Then quite often these same people state how piracy is increasing and increasing and how losses are getting higher and higher, despite making more money than ever before

Well which is it then? Does copy protection reduce piracy, increase piracy or do nothing at all?

Bloody confusing if you ask me....

**Da_Taxman** · 18-06-2002

Quote:

Originally posted by suomynona
What kind of protection is used on Celine's A NEw Day Has Come album? I can 'backup' amost everything, but this CD just won't let me. The led keep flashing but nothing works so far. CloneCD can't even scan the CD! Is my drive gone to h*ll or what is going on here?

suomynona
-don't take the short way to heaven

Well, it appears you have used the search to come up with this thread, the answer to your question has been stated before on this forum and could have been found using the same search:
http://forum.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?threadid=44380

It is Key2Audio protection.

*Upp3rd0G* · 18-06-2002

Read the sticky thread which is found at the top of the threadlisting of this forum! With the information in there you can determine which protection is used yourself. You should always determine the protection yourself, you can't always rely on other people's findings, because protections differ from continent to continent, from country to country, from cd-pressing batch to cd-pressing batch! There are also some usefull tips for backing up your protected audio cd.

Billious · 21-06-2002

Celine Dion? Surely the name is protection enough why not make it illegal to sell? Rant against souless muzac over . . .

Oh and if a CD comes with copy protection shouldn't there be a warning somewhere about possible problems with playing it on certain systems e.g. PC CD-ROM's?

suomynona · 22-06-2002

Celion Dion's CD is no longer a problem. So, my Samsung can't read the CD, but the LiteOn can :-) I've setup CloneCD to read from the LiteOn and burn it with the Samsung

Used reader/writer combo:
LiteOn LTN526 (Revision YH0J)
SamSung SW-216B (Revision Q001)

I've used the settings from this link:
http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware...ey2audio.shtml

Used software:
ClonyXXL (version 2.0.0.6)
CloneCD (version 4.0.1.6)

31-03-2002	#1 (permalink)
serpentuk CD Freaks Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 143	Celine Dion <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> I found out today that the New Celine dion Album cant be played on the pc...i wasnt upset as i dont like her but you know are all cd's going to be like that and can you still copy them?

01-04-2002	#3 (permalink)
Da_Taxman Senior (non-technical) Admin Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Eindhoven, The Netherlands Posts: 13,434	must you use such harsh language? How would you feel it when it was your money the people were stealing? I'd try to protect my money as well. But so far there hasn't been a protections that could not be circumvented...for backup purposes of course. Where LiteOn is known for its capabilities to backup SafeDisc protected games, Plextor is known for its capabilities to backup protected audio cds. You can read more in the Plextor and CloneCD forums. Feurio and ExactAudioCopy are very capable programs as well. The purpose of the companies is not to make it impossible (they too know that it is impossible), but to make it as hard as possible. When they can prevent the average Joe to make illegal copies, they can limit the damage considerably.... __________________ By registering to our forum you accepted our rules and policies (Dutch), so respect CD Freaks by respecting these rules and policies; Please read these helpful tips and links for all (newbies and oldtimers) Please describe your problem as clear as possible in your topic title, so that others can see what it is about and are more inclined to help if it is something they know something about; I do not provide technical support over E-mail or Private Message (emails with such requests will be bounced); Please post your questions as clear as possible, so others can help you get a correct answer sooner; Please use our search, you might get an answer to your question sooner that way; For any forum related issues you can contact me through PM; I don't dislike newbies, just lazy people who expect others to do their work for them.

18-06-2002	#9 (permalink)
Upp3rd0G CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: NL Posts: 2,108	Read the sticky thread which is found at the top of the threadlisting of this forum! With the information in there you can determine which protection is used yourself. You should always determine the protection yourself, you can't always rely on other people's findings, because protections differ from continent to continent, from country to country, from cd-pressing batch to cd-pressing batch! There are also some usefull tips for backing up your protected audio cd. __________________ You can help us to help you even better. You can help fund our research Please read the rules Please detail your problem... What info do U provide? Try our Search... function Please read this for more info on audio copy protections

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01-04-2002	#2 (permalink)
RangerDulann CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 53	If it's up to the record industry all cds are going to be protected like that. Cock suckers! I've read in some other thread that a few (Toshiba?) DVD-rom players can handle these protected cds. You can also copy it with CloneCD and then play it.

01-04-2002	#4 (permalink)
RangerDulann CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 53	My problem with the record industry is that you have to pay more and more for a product that you can do less with. And the protection schemes used can cause trouble: -There have been reports that protected audio cds can't be played in certain cd-walkmans, car stereo systems, even some DVD-players. You buy it, you own it. It's the same as if a car manufacturer would tell me: "You are allowed to drive your car in France, but not in Spain." If I buy a cd, I want to play it in my car, my pc, my walkman, my stereo. And if I feel like it, I'll use it as a frisbee. By the way, I always buy my cds in the store. And if find a protected one, its going straight back.

01-04-2002	#5 (permalink)
dansmug Lord of the Strings Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: België Posts: 2,267	Bizzness is taking over politics. Too bad people (mostly) don't react, but what could we expect. Almost everyone has been made braindead by the media.

18-06-2002	#6 (permalink)
suomynona New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA/Europe for work Posts: 28	What kind of protection is used on Celine's A NEw Day Has Come album? I can 'backup' amost everything, but this CD just won't let me. The led keep flashing but nothing works so far. CloneCD can't even scan the CD! Is my drive gone to h*ll or what is going on here? suomynona -don't take the short way to heaven

18-06-2002	#7 (permalink)
spunkser21 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: UK Posts: 107	Copy protection is a funny thing. Some people, companies, goverment bodies say that the use of copy protection reduces piracy. Then quite often these same people state how piracy is increasing and increasing and how losses are getting higher and higher, despite making more money than ever before Well which is it then? Does copy protection reduce piracy, increase piracy or do nothing at all? Bloody confusing if you ask me....

21-06-2002	#10 (permalink)
Billious New on Forum Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Gloucester, UK Posts: 3	Celine Dion? Surely the name is protection enough why not make it illegal to sell? Rant against souless muzac over . . . Oh and if a CD comes with copy protection shouldn't there be a warning somewhere about possible problems with playing it on certain systems e.g. PC CD-ROM's?

22-06-2002	#11 (permalink)
suomynona New on Forum Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: USA/Europe for work Posts: 28	Celion Dion's CD is no longer a problem. So, my Samsung can't read the CD, but the LiteOn can :-) I've setup CloneCD to read from the LiteOn and burn it with the Samsung Used reader/writer combo: LiteOn LTN526 (Revision YH0J) SamSung SW-216B (Revision Q001) I've used the settings from this link: http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware...ey2audio.shtml Used software: ClonyXXL (version 2.0.0.6) CloneCD (version 4.0.1.6)