CDR's and Red Book - Club CDFreaks

rockin · 12-10-2004

What is the difference between a yellow book CDR and red book CDR
will one only play in a computer and not a CD player

could someone explain the diffence in general terms without getting too technical

thanks, rockin
Online:

*madmax* · 12-10-2004

There is a good explanation of red and yellow book standards (along with green, orange and white) here

*RichMan* · 13-10-2004

A CD-R is not Red or Yellow book but Orange book. It may contain data that conforms to the Red or Yellow books though. Some high end CD audio players/recorders might only record to CD-Rs that have the proper bits set to indicate 'Audio CD-R' but I don't think they are so common. Home stereo CD players will usually only play CDs that conform to the Red book (even if they are actually Orange book CD-Rs). A PC CD-ROM drive will normally read either.

rockin · 13-10-2004

Richman, then how does one create a CDR than conforms to the Red Book, or Orange Book
does one consist of audio only and the other data only

thanks, rockin

*Never_Again* · 13-10-2004

Correct.

But you need not worry about conformity details. Pretty much any CD/DVD recording s/w will take care of them after letting you pick what kind of disc you want to create.

There is more good info in CD-R FAQ.

tanile · 09-11-2004

yeah, things have improved alot,
today people even do not know what is red or orange.
your recorders, sws... handle the compability issues.

JIG66666 · 13-01-2007

Sorry for raising this VERRRY old topic, but I have a question:
Can I find somewhere the Orange Book disc specifications, wishfully in all parts?

The reason is: as I know, the ATIP manufacturer information was established in these specifications, correct? So I just would like to have the complete manufacturers list and their ATIP codes.

Not very long time ago I found that document, but had imprudence to delete it. Now I want to find it again, but can't. Can someone help me?

olyteddy · 13-01-2007

WikiPedia probably has all that info and more.

JIG66666 · 13-01-2007

I also thought that way. But Wikipedia turned out to be useless.
Or maybe I was ignorant?

*_chef_* · 14-01-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIG66666

So I just would like to have the complete manufacturers list and their ATIP codes.

Sounds logical but never have seen such a list in the public, would be surprised it were released as such...

JIG66666 · 17-01-2007

Yesss!!! I've found it!

http://www.cdr-forum.de/download/cdr.pdf

*_chef_* · 17-01-2007

uh, nice find!

*Francksoy* · 17-01-2007

Quote:

Originally Posted by _chef_

uh, nice find!

Yep, really. Glad to have this document at hand now.

Thanks JIG66666

12-10-2004	#1 (permalink)
rockin New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8	CDR's and Red Book <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> What is the difference between a yellow book CDR and red book CDR will one only play in a computer and not a CD player could someone explain the diffence in general terms without getting too technical thanks, rockin Online:

12-10-2004	#2 (permalink)
madmax CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Scotland Posts: 1,474	Re: CDR's and Red Book There is a good explanation of red and yellow book standards (along with green, orange and white) here

13-10-2004	#3 (permalink)
RichMan CD Freaks Expert Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 575	Re: CDR's and Red Book A CD-R is not Red or Yellow book but Orange book. It may contain data that conforms to the Red or Yellow books though. Some high end CD audio players/recorders might only record to CD-Rs that have the proper bits set to indicate 'Audio CD-R' but I don't think they are so common. Home stereo CD players will usually only play CDs that conform to the Red book (even if they are actually Orange book CD-Rs). A PC CD-ROM drive will normally read either.

13-10-2004	#4 (permalink)
rockin New on Forum Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 8	Re: CDR's and Red Book Richman, then how does one create a CDR than conforms to the Red Book, or Orange Book does one consist of audio only and the other data only thanks, rockin

13-10-2004	#5 (permalink)
Never_Again CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 506	Re: CDR's and Red Book Correct. But you need not worry about conformity details. Pretty much any CD/DVD recording s/w will take care of them after letting you pick what kind of disc you want to create. There is more good info in CD-R FAQ.

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09-11-2004	#6 (permalink)
tanile New on Forum Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: TURKEY Posts: 2	Re: CDR's and Red Book yeah, things have improved alot, today people even do not know what is red or orange. your recorders, sws... handle the compability issues.

13-01-2007	#7 (permalink)
JIG66666 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minsk, Republic of Belarus Posts: 247	Re: CDR's and Red Book Sorry for raising this VERRRY old topic, but I have a question: Can I find somewhere the Orange Book disc specifications, wishfully in all parts? The reason is: as I know, the ATIP manufacturer information was established in these specifications, correct? So I just would like to have the complete manufacturers list and their ATIP codes. Not very long time ago I found that document, but had imprudence to delete it. Now I want to find it again, but can't. Can someone help me?

13-01-2007	#8 (permalink)
olyteddy CD Freaks Die Hard Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,045	Re: CDR's and Red Book WikiPedia probably has all that info and more.

13-01-2007	#9 (permalink)
JIG66666 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minsk, Republic of Belarus Posts: 247	Re: CDR's and Red Book I also thought that way. But Wikipedia turned out to be useless. Or maybe I was ignorant?

17-01-2007	#11 (permalink)
JIG66666 CD Freaks Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Minsk, Republic of Belarus Posts: 247	Re: CDR's and Red Book Yesss!!! I've found it! http://www.cdr-forum.de/download/cdr.pdf

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