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Old 07-07-2003   #1 (permalink)
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I use the Nero wizard to burn mp3's and the cds all have cd text on when played in my hi-fi.
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Old 07-07-2003   #2 (permalink)
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Can't burn CD-Text w Roxio or Nero

Help!

I have tried writing CD-Text onto CDs with both Nero (5 something) and Roxio (5 with latest patch from Roxio website). CDs finish without errors, but my CD changer (Sony CDP-450) won't read the CD-Text.

Is there a secret to this? Is there something wrong with the Burner? CD changer? I use Windows Professional 2000 and have tried 2 different 52/24/52 burners on 2 different PCs.
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What are you using to read the text?
Your player MUST be capable of reading CD-Text. Most are not.
On the PC, the media player MUST be capable of reading CD-Text. Windows Media Player and quite a few other media players including Winamp 2 cannot read CD-Text.
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CD-Text problems

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What are you using to read the text?
Your player MUST be capable of reading CD-Text. Most are not.
On the PC, the media player MUST be capable of reading CD-Text. Windows Media Player and quite a few other media players including Winamp 2 cannot read CD-Text.
The player is a Sony CDPCX450 which claims that it will read CD-Text. The original CDs do not have text, I'm retrieveing that online.

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What burner are you using?
Do other programs burn correctly?
Have you tried Feurio!?

It's the best software to burn CD-Text.

This is the list of supported drives:
http://www.feurio.com/English/cd_writer.shtml

If it claims that your drive supports CD-Text, it'll probably work.

Once burned, insert the CD in the burner and press the "CD-Text" button at the right of the CD-ROM selection in the Feurio CD-Manager in order to see if the CD contains CD-Text info.
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You could also try burnatonce which is superb for cd-text editing and writing. Incredibly simple to use too.
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The two burners I've been using lately identify themselves as:
CDWRITER IDE5224
52x24x52 CD-RW

Roxio thinks they are CD-Text capable.
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wow! "generic" drives !!

According to this:
http://www.goldenhawk.com/devices.htm
the 2nd drive might be an AOpen or Buslink rebadged Ricoh 52x, but if Feurio doesn't recognise it, then my post is useless (if it were the AOpen you would need the latest driver update to detect it correctly and burn CD-Text).

This is one of the reasons why I don't like rebadged drives.
In this case, I would try CDRWin and burnatonce if Feurio doesn't recognize it with the last driver update.

The AOpen drive would be easily identified:
http://www.cdr.cz/rekordery/aopen/crw5224.html
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The two burners I've been using lately identify themselves as:
CDWRITER IDE5224
52x24x52 CD-RW

Roxio thinks they are CD-Text capable.
Nero also recognizes them

Supposedly both write CD-Text, but My Sony CD-Text capable CD changer doesn't read the CD-Text.


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Thanks for responding to my post.


wow! "generic" drives !!

Yes, they are cheap, but the point is that if Roxio and Nero both recognize these burners and indicat that they are writing CD-Text, why don't they? Are the burners just crap? Or is it a software glitch or some obscure setting that I can change so this works?

Is it the Sony that is defective? Is there a way I can tell if CD-Text has been written to the CD?


According to this:
http://www.goldenhawk.com/devices.htm
the 2nd drive might be an AOpen or Buslink rebadged Ricoh 52x, but if Feurio doesn't recognise it, then my post is useless (if it were the AOpen you would need the latest driver update to detect it correctly and burn CD-Text).

I have the latest Roxio, and Roxio does recognize the drive and the Write CT-Text check box is enabled.


This is one of the reasons why I don't like rebadged drives.
In this case, I would try CDRWin and burnatonce if Feurio doesn't recognize it with the last driver update.

Not using Feurio, don't have Feurio.
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why don't they? Are the burners just crap? Or is it a software glitch or some obscure setting that I can change so this works?
Maybe Ahead and Roxio haven't tested those drives extensively, and they enable CD-Text for all drives by default or they decided to report "CD-Text capable" for drives with those names... ?


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Is it the Sony that is defective? Is there a way I can tell if CD-Text has been written to the CD?
Yes, you need software capable of reading CD-Text.
CD2WAV32 and press the CD-Text button.
If your drive is supported by Feurio, try the CD-Text button in CD-Manager that I explained before. If it's not supported, you should enable reading CD-Text in Feurio CD-Manager -> Program Parameters -> Special Parameters -> Special Parameters.


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I have the latest Roxio, and Roxio does recognize the drive and the Write CT-Text check box is enabled.
Roxio and Ahead are known to claim that they will write CD-Text, and then it doesn't work...


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Not using Feurio, don't have Feurio.
http://www.feurio.com/English/Download/index.shtml
The demo has no limit in time nor options.
It doesn't install any system driver, unlike Roxio or Nero, so it won't cause any harm.
You'll need the latest driver update if it's an AOpen 52x:

If the drive isn't detected, you can select the generic MMC driver. In this case, CD-Text isn't guaranteed to work, but it wouldn't be the first time that Nero don't write CD-Text and Feurio does it with the generic driver.

Oh, and you can also try EAC.
The burning engine isn't as good, but it should read CD-Text as well.
www.exactaudiocopy.de

Also
www.burnatonce.com

None of these programs install garbage.
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[quote]Originally posted by minix
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Maybe Ahead and Roxio haven't tested those drives extensively, and they enable CD-Text for all drives by default or they decided to report "CD-Text capable" for drives with those names... ?

That might explain it.


Yes, you need software capable of reading CD-Text.
CD2WAV32 and press the CD-Text button.
If your drive is supported by Feurio, try the CD-Text button in CD-Manager that I explained before. If it's not supported, you should enable reading CD-Text in Feurio CD-Manager -> Program Parameters -> Special Parameters -> Special Parameters.

Thanks - I'll give these a try.


Roxio and Ahead are known to claim that they will write CD-Text, and then it doesn't work...

My experience supports that theory.


If the drive isn't detected, you can select the generic MMC driver. In this case, CD-Text isn't guaranteed to work, but it wouldn't be the first time that Nero don't write CD-Text and Feurio does it with the generic driver.

Again, I'll try these and let you know.
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I use the Nero wizard to burn mp3's and the cds all have cd text on when played in my hi-fi.
Really? Which Nero? What burner?
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Nero 5.5.10.42 and Lite-on 16102B, older versions of nero also burned cd-text fine. They all have CD-Text on when i play them in my Kenwood Hi-Fi.
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Problem solved

For those who are interested, it was the AOpen burner that was at fault. I switched to another cheap burner and have no problems at all now with Roxio or Nero.

Thanks to those who tried to help.
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was it really an AOpen drive? then it should have burn CD-Text...
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It was sold as a Verbatim, but the label on the case says AOpen.
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check cd, driver, programs, capabilities of drive, player etc...
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feurio

hrm, feurio doesn't even recognize my LITE-ON 52246S, but nero does.

i have all current aspi installed, everything, so i don't know why it's doing that.
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Re: feurio

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hrm, feurio doesn't even recognize my LITE-ON 52246S, but nero does.
No problem: LiteOn 52x is recognized by Feurio in version 1.66.5.
You need the lastest driver update, as it's said here.

Feurio doesn't need ASPI layer in Windows XP (it can use the native interface).
ASPI 4.60 is recommended in Win98.
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