Hey all.
Years ago, when I had my first cd-writer (2X plextor), when I burned audio CD on quite-expensive (back then) kodak gold blanks, it played in almost all cd players i've tried - this includes home stereo cd-player units as well as car stereo cd-player units (especially the second one here is really important to me). Then I had HP8100i, which was very good as well. But then, as I had my acer and nowdays my 32Xcyberdrive (i know, i know... it was on big special), I really have trouble reading those audio Cd's. CDRW's are out of the question in car audio (unless you have brand new cdplayer unit. But in my 8 year old subaru, i have stock cd player, which has big problems reading burned cd's - and same symptoms are happening when i try to play those cd's in other old cd-players.

-I put the cd in.
-It takes ages (30 second, and sometimes more... even 5 minutes in my car, if at all) to "reckognize" the CD
then it hardly starts on first track - usually somewhere on the middle on the cd and in the middle of some track. It plays - it doesnt skip at all - if i dont touch next/prev track buttons it will play to the end of then cd without any problems at all.
-if I press nexp/prev track buttons, ralely it jumps to the specified track... usually it takes anouther 30 seconds to change the tracks.... usually goes to right track, but hardly to the beggning- usually several seconds into the track.

Please note that when I put original cd in, it plays it perfectly well.

Similar thing happens when i put those cd's into my PSX. Some standalone cd-players wont read the cd at all.

I hope someone will understand what i mean. My questions are:
-is it definitely the case of cd-player (i.e some just wont read burned cd's) if yes, can it be fixed ?
-is it the burner
-maby i should burn them somewhat differently (I tried slower speeds.... maby a little bit better, but still basically unworkable
-i know that media matters, and I tried several brands of cd... soem work better some worse... byt still far off
-is it worth trying those DA-blanks cd's (all tho they are 4x more xpensive than normal ones here)
-maby there's an option in nero or something
-does it matter which cd-recording software i use ?
-is there technical explanation to the things I'm experiencing.

Any opinions are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance,
Mops.

Definitely a bad CDR. By the way, how do behave your old Kodaks in those same players ?


It might contribute to the problem, if it doesn't like the CDR/speed combination itself.

The most important point : the media ! Which brands have you tried ? Mitsui ? Tayo Yuden ? Verbatim ? Ricoh ?
Sony, Tdk, Maxell, Basf, Philips, Fuji, Pioneer, Hp, Traxdata, Memorex, and many others are not brands, they can sell you anything under their names. Most of the time, CDRidentifier, Feurio, or EAC can tell you the manufacturer of the CDR (at least the manufacturer written into the ATIP).

No

No, exept speed, audiomaster (or varirec or whatever it's called), burnproof (if it takes place), and very hypothetically closing the disc (DAO/SAO burning).
2nd and 3rd options are only supported by the most recent drives.

In theory, no. I just wonder if they all use the same write commands.

Certainly, but there's no need to search very far, bad quality burnings, that's all.
Car players can reject any CDR, that's a common fact. But you said that the old Kodaks were accepted. I don't know the PSX behaviour, but if in addition, other CD players don't like them (Some standalone DVD players hate CDRs, that's not a CDR problem), it's the CDR that is bad.

mops,

Read the following link for a similar situation:

http://forum.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?threadid=52561

If Princo discs don't work for your players, then probably none of any CD-R brand would. You may want to buy a 5-pack Jensen CD-Rs at Circuit City to find out if they work.

Unfortunately I can cant tell how my old kodaks, and other brands I used perform, as my collection of almost 100 were stolen from my car along with my stereo system about 6 months ago. So far I tried Verbatims, Aopen, Mr. Data, even I found old imation 4X (lol), as well kodak gold (even psx didnt reckognize the cd)

As well I tried TDK (these so far are the best, but still way from perfect).

Please note that not all brands are aviable here, in New Zealand

The problem is that my results are incosistent
for example cheapes brand here -Mr. Data- first audio cd i burned on 32X cyberdrive works perfectly in the psx, doesnt work in my car, but then another mr.data i burned (at same, 4x speed) doesnt work at all anywhere....


I want to buy a cdwriter for my home (i'm using one at work now) soon, and originally i inteded to buy cheapest one, Bu if the burner will be unable to burn reliable audio cd's then i'm not buying burner at all - screw this !

What exacly make/model would you ppl recommend (and using which media?, primarlt i need the cd;'s to be read in my old car cd-player)

thanks again.

Kodak gold should do well, but bare in mind
only written on 2x or less, especially while you are having a relatively old car- cdplayer,

same goes for the PSX, the older models did have a very weak
laser, for instance mine is a 1200 model (very old) it should
be at a 45 degrees angle before even play the disk. and then it doesn't play disks written at 4x or higher.

nowadays the PSOne has a better laser installed, it should be no problem the play them.

Very high error rates were reported for 32x burning, try no more than 16x, and with high speed certified media.