Am I Hurting Audio Quality? - Club CDFreaks

whatspiracy · 03-12-2005

What I've been doing for the past 2 days is this:

I've been making CD images of my new CDs using alcohol 120% (Reading @ 1x). I then mount the images using Daemon Tools & use EAC to create WavPack files (high, 6x extra encoding) off of the virtual drive. I was curious if I'd get better quality audio using EAC to make the .wv's straight off the disc, or if it doesn't matter.

dnd12 · 04-12-2005

AFAIK, EAC is the only software to read the disc twice to ensure accuracy - you won't be getting this feature with any other software

Yes, it would be better to use EAC

*eltranquil* · 04-12-2005

I agree with dnd12, EAC is probably the best choice for audio ripping. If you are using a Plextor drive, PlexTools is an excellent alternative.

Btw, reading at 1x is really an overkill

, you don't need to do that. Can you give some details on the drives used for the process?

One last remark: if your originals are in mint condition, or with only some light scratches, your rips with Alcohol will be probably 100% perfect, even if it does not pay particular attention to accuracy.

Regards,

ET

*_chef_* · 04-12-2005

Reading/ripping at 1x will only cost you much time with no effort.

*Matth* · 04-12-2005

I'd read really crabby ones at 1x - at least I used to, as the drive I had always hung up if I tried to use the automatic speed reduction in EAC.

Amazing how many errors that need retry at higher speed, come through ok at 1x - but unless it is visibly degraded, (scratches, marks etc.) I wouldn't start with 1x.

NRen2k5 · 07-12-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatspiracy

What I've been doing for the past 2 days is this:

I've been making CD images of my new CDs using alcohol 120% (Reading @ 1x). I then mount the images using Daemon Tools & use EAC to create WavPack files (high, 6x extra encoding) off of the virtual drive. I was curious if I'd get better quality audio using EAC to make the .wv's straight off the disc, or if it doesn't matter.

You'd get better quality, I'd say.

I think your disc-image method doesn't really accomplish anything; it just depends on Alcohol120% (a multi-purpose CD copier) rather than EAC (a specialized CD ripper) for the copying of the actual disc, so I'd have to say it's not quite as good as just using EAC. And it certainly takes more of your time and effort.

whatspiracy · 08-12-2005

I just wanted an image copy on my PC along with .wv files. It's just faster for me to make the .img then to make the .wvs from there, then it donned on me that this might not be the best idea.

*Matth* · 08-12-2005

EAC can make a WAV/CUE image - I believe you can mount that with daemon tools

ChangFest · 08-12-2005

Yes you can mount only .wav images with Daemon tools. Also if you want to use just album images you can imbed the .cue sheet with a single album file (.wav, .wv, .flac, etc) and just load the audio file. Works well with foobar2000.

dreamliner77 · 23-12-2005

Ripping to an image and then using EAC is a huge waste of time. Basically you're just using EAC as a wav splitter at the point. EAC can only detect and/or correct errors from the PHYSICAL cd. Do yourself a favor and just rip with EAC.

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whatspiracy New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 7	Am I Hurting Audio Quality? <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> What I've been doing for the past 2 days is this: I've been making CD images of my new CDs using alcohol 120% (Reading @ 1x). I then mount the images using Daemon Tools & use EAC to create WavPack files (high, 6x extra encoding) off of the virtual drive. I was curious if I'd get better quality audio using EAC to make the .wv's straight off the disc, or if it doesn't matter.

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dnd12 New on Forum Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 17	Re: Am I Hurting Audio Quality? AFAIK, EAC is the only software to read the disc twice to ensure accuracy - you won't be getting this feature with any other software Yes, it would be better to use EAC

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eltranquil CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 4,531	Re: Am I Hurting Audio Quality? I agree with dnd12, EAC is probably the best choice for audio ripping. If you are using a Plextor drive, PlexTools is an excellent alternative. Btw, reading at 1x is really an overkill , you don't need to do that. Can you give some details on the drives used for the process? One last remark: if your originals are in mint condition, or with only some light scratches, your rips with Alcohol will be probably 100% perfect, even if it does not pay particular attention to accuracy. Regards, ET

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Matth CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,515	Re: Am I Hurting Audio Quality? I'd read really crabby ones at 1x - at least I used to, as the drive I had always hung up if I tried to use the automatic speed reduction in EAC. Amazing how many errors that need retry at higher speed, come through ok at 1x - but unless it is visibly degraded, (scratches, marks etc.) I wouldn't start with 1x.

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whatspiracy New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 7	Re: Am I Hurting Audio Quality? I just wanted an image copy on my PC along with .wv files. It's just faster for me to make the .img then to make the .wvs from there, then it donned on me that this might not be the best idea.

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Matth CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 1,515	Re: Am I Hurting Audio Quality? EAC can make a WAV/CUE image - I believe you can mount that with daemon tools

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ChangFest CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 54	Re: Am I Hurting Audio Quality? Yes you can mount only .wav images with Daemon tools. Also if you want to use just album images you can imbed the .cue sheet with a single album file (.wav, .wv, .flac, etc) and just load the audio file. Works well with foobar2000.

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dreamliner77 CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 394	Re: Am I Hurting Audio Quality? Ripping to an image and then using EAC is a huge waste of time. Basically you're just using EAC as a wav splitter at the point. EAC can only detect and/or correct errors from the PHYSICAL cd. Do yourself a favor and just rip with EAC.

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