REAL CD Cloning ?! - Club CDFreaks

Sam123456789 · 27-06-2002

Does exist commands to read -or better! write- the complete CD "groove" from the very begin to end?

Why afaik every writer and/or soft only uses standard Lead-In with simple inserted TOC?

Is there at all a chance to read (and save) the whole 4500 LEAD-IN sectors of a disc (1 minute, or roughly 9 megabytes) RAW inclusive Subchannels ?!?

CU, Sam

**FutureProof** · 27-06-2002

Check the MultiMedia Command Set - 3 (MMC-3) Standard

Sam123456789 · 28-06-2002

good info, but it seems this (MMC-3) 1363-D is still under development and not published yet.

And on the link you gave me they have 30 Megs of MMC.pdfs on their ftp, I have no clue which one of them is useful.

CU, Sam

**FutureProof** · 28-06-2002

MMC-1 and MMC-2 are also there

Sam123456789 · 29-06-2002

the file mmc3r00a.pdf was already t-10/1363-D -cool.
But as long as I'm no programmer, I can't use the commands.
I've heard a rumor a modified firmware for the Yamaha 400t was able to write some "more RAW" discs then others.

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Sam123456789 CD Freaks Expert Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 249	REAL CD Cloning ?! <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Does exist commands to read -or better! write- the complete CD "groove" from the very begin to end? Why afaik every writer and/or soft only uses standard Lead-In with simple inserted TOC? Is there at all a chance to read (and save) the whole 4500 LEAD-IN sectors of a disc (1 minute, or roughly 9 megabytes) RAW inclusive Subchannels ?!? CU, Sam

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FutureProof Senior Admin Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: True Blue Posts: 5,606	MMC-1 and MMC-2 are also there Last edited by FutureProof; 02-07-2002 at 02:04.

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28-06-2002	#3 (permalink)
Sam123456789 CD Freaks Expert Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 249	good info, but it seems this (MMC-3) 1363-D is still under development and not published yet. And on the link you gave me they have 30 Megs of MMC.pdfs on their ftp, I have no clue which one of them is useful. CU, Sam

29-06-2002	#5 (permalink)
Sam123456789 CD Freaks Expert Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 249	the file mmc3r00a.pdf was already t-10/1363-D -cool. But as long as I'm no programmer, I can't use the commands. I've heard a rumor a modified firmware for the Yamaha 400t was able to write some "more RAW" discs then others.