ScubaPete or anyone else: *ahem, clears throat* "Extreme noobness here"...I just picked up a LiteOn 811S (HSOK Firmware) the other day, and succesfully burned a fine backup of Runaway Jury as a test disc using DVD Decrypter & DVDShrink. Yahoo!

My question is this: my 2 year old LiteOn CDRW that I just removed to make room for the DVDRW came with a bundled version of Nero 5.5 - 5.5.7.2 to be exact. I have grown to use and enjoy this software quite well. Having read the posts in this thread, I thought "Great!" I can use this version of Nero to burn DVD's with, right? Wrong!

My bundled version of Nero does not have the drop down choice of CD or DVD that is mentioned many times in this thread. In fact, I don't have a drop down at all - only a window with many different CD choices. Under my "Choose Recorder" tab at the top of the menu, my 811S isn't listed, only a "virtual drive".

Am I to assume that Nero wasn't kidding when they said "this software will only work on the recorder it came bundled with"?

If this is indeed the case, can I simply upgrade this bundled version and have full functionality?

Great Forum/responses...keep up the good work guys.

The problem you have is that your Nero was bundled with that CD writter as you suspected.

Good news, you can purchase a Nero version 5.5 that will work as you wanted for about $10.00 - just "Google" for it -

Better news, I came across a great (legal) local that sells the full boat Nero 6 for just $35.00 (shipping $8.00 extra) Includes all the B & W i.e. recode 2 and yes, Nero classic - here's the site

http://www.eagletronics.com

Enjoy,

Pete

Hi all, i seem to be having a problem, and it seems to be the same kind as a few other people. I do everything told in the guide but when i try to burn, it asks me where i want to save the file, which doesnt make sense. But i also noticed that i have the same problem as Art VanDelay. It asks me what drive and all i have is a virtual drive.

i used DVD shrink to rip the DVD (Band of brothers DVD 1) and im using nero 5.5 I got my nero bundled with my old CD burner so i think that may be my problem.

Ok well if anyone has a definitive ansewr to this problem i would be greatly apreciated. until then. Im going to go look on google for that 10$ nero 5.5 (thank you scubapete)

Do I need dvd-r to record dvd? I just have cd-r/dvd and Nero software. Thanks

Hi there Heimdall,

To answer your questions in order let’s start out with the question about the file. Just like when you make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich, you need a place to do your work, a table or a counter. A DVD backup needs to use your HD. You can’t toss the sandwich makings in the air and pick what you need then toss it back in the air, you MUST have a workspace. When you backup a DVD you MUST use your HD to work on. After you’re finished you can clean the files from your HD, the same as cleaning the table after the ingredients are put away. The only time you can copy from disc to disc is when you are making a copy from a copy.

When attempting to burn, Nero will ask for a drive. It doesn’t know that one drive is a DVD ROM and one is a CD burner and one is a virtual drive until it attempts to write - Then you’ll find out soon enough )

It has been my experience that bundled software, especially the stuff that comes with a drive is tied to that drive. When I suggested the Nero 5.5 version please understand that it works hand-in-hand with DVD Shrink but so does DVD Decrypter (FREE). I am speaking of the newest version of DVD Shrink, ver. 3.1.7. To save some cash you might want to try the free stuff first. The major difference is that when you are using DVD Decrypter you will be burning in the ISO (image) mode as opposed to using Nero, which burns your more familiar VIDEO_TS folder with your IFO, BUP and VOB files.

Not to get you corn-fused, I’ll just supply you with a guide (and links for the most up-to-date programs) for the DVD Shrink and DVD Decrypter recipe.



Hi equate,

I’m sorry to tell you but Yes, you need a DVD burner. You might want to consider a DVD burner as the price has gone way, way down. You could even look at ebay for a used 2.4X dual format DVD burner.
A DVD ROM is for watching DVD’s only BUT because you have it there is plenty you can do. If you have the new Nero package (ver. 6) in Nero Classic, New Compilation window, you can find under CD, a program called mini-DVD. This neat little program can take the VOB files straight from DVD Shrink and burn them into a CD. Excellent picture quality, hard to tell the difference between the original and a backup done in the “Movie only method” (using DVD Shrink in the re-Author mode). Also, if you have the full boat Nero, you could use either DVD43 or DVD Decrypter in the “File” mode to rip your DVD and then use Nero’s recode2 to process your backup then burn to your CD using mini-DVD, wonderful choices all.

You can also use the following guide to process a DVD backup, just at the end, you’ll be using Nero’s mini-DVD to burn to your CD.

Ok, here’s your guide for using DVD Shrink and then DVD Decrypter to burn - WORD OF CAUTION, YOU’LL NEED TO USE “ISO BUSTER” IF YOU’RE RUNNING FAT32.

First, you should create a folder for your DVD backup before hand. This is the place on your HD where DVD Shrink will work on your movie. Try to put it someplace where you won’t forget it - i.e. C:/All DVD work/Matrix Revolution.

Now fire up DVD Decrypter - and under “Mode”, select “ISO” then “Write” - under “Source” you may leave that blank as DVD Decrypter will find the location that DVD Shrink will put your ISO files in all by itself. Select your “Destination” as your Burner - and make sure that the box that says “verify” is un-ticked (This last one will cut down on DVD Decrypter errors). OK, feel free to close DVD Decrypter now because when DVD Shrink is finished it will open DVD Decrypter all by itself.
Now you can place your original DVD in your DVD-ROM drive and a DVD blank in your burner’s drive (If you have two drives). As for your DVD media, after all my efforts it had better be Ritek G04, Verbatim or any media boasting “Advanced AZO Dye. All other media could very well be the cause errors, only the very best media should be used for DVD Video backups. Remember that RW discs will probably not play in standalone players. Now is defiantly not the time to put your crappy cheap stuff in - )

Now go into DVD Shrink, click “Edit”, then click “Preferences” on this page we’re going to select “DVD Target Size” as “Custom” and set the size as “4360MB” - we do this to make extremely sure that our disc isn’t too large. Then, under the “File I/O” tab un-tick “Enable burning with Nero” then click “OK”.

Now let’s burn a DVD. Click “Open Disk” and analyze your DVD in the usual manner, if you wish, do your editing (or re-Authoring) and do your custom compressing or, if you want a total backup, just let the “Automatic” settings alone.THEN when time comes, select “Backup”. Take just a second and under “Target Device” go to “Select target device” once there, select “ISO Disc Image”. NEXT,]IMPORTANT, tick the “Launch DVD Decrypter to burn the output image” box. Finally, where it says “Select target image file”, browse till you find your created folder for your backup and click “Save”, That’s it ! Click “OK” and DVD Shrink burns that ISO image right to your folder, then it starts DVD Decrypter to also burn your ISO files to your waiting disc.

And I KNOW you aren’t going anywhere near that PC while it’s working cause you don’t want me a-smackin your knuckles with my Nun’s ruler do ya ? Yea, I thought not. - Screwin’ up the burn this late in the game would absolutely TICK old ScubaPete off, causing me to choke on my fine finny fish dinner -

Now tell me, - - - Wasn’t that finer than frog hair ? Slicker than a southern slimy slithery sloth ? Yep, ya see there, I thought you’d say that -


cheers all,

Pete


(Get your DVD Shrink’s newest version here - )
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi...dvd_shrink.cfm
Shrink Guide - you might want to look at this sometime -
http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/dvd_shrink_3.htm


(Get your DVD Decrypter’s newest version here - )
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/vi..._decrypter.cfm

Great!

On another note...just gotta ask the question "becuase"...for those of us with earlier "bundled" versions who may want to upgrade thorough Nero's website to the whole enchilade (Nero 6), is there a serial number required to do so? I have my original disc, but I don't have the paper sleeve where the serial number sticker usually resides.

Thoughts?

ScubaPete: PB&J sandwich analogy...lol...

Well Art,

I couldn't tell you what Nero is or isn't going to do but I doubt that they'll offer you the kind of deal you can get here, The full boat Nero 6 with all the B & W including Nero's recode2 and all the other extras in the Ultra Edition of Nero 6 - In the box !!!

for, are you sitting down, good, cause here's the good part, $35.00 and $8.00 shipping instead of Nero's reg price of $69.99

Check it out - http://www.eagletronics.com/

Just click "Nero" on the left-side of the page :P)

Enjoy my friend,

Pete

i tried using DVd decrypter ScubaPete and it worked fine in finding my NEC-2500a. Nero 5.5 still doesnt seem to want to read that the drive is there so now im gonna try decrypt. Only prob now is that i gotta get my drive to notice that i have a Blank DVD in it

thanks

Nero at best is "Flighty" and needs a "smack up-side-de-head".

Have you trie uninstalling it, rebooting (to make sure it's flushed out) and then reinstalled with a reboot again to ensure it's settled in -

Certainly couldn't hurt :-)

Pete

PS, have you tried the latest firmware upgrade ?

Also uninstalling your drive and letting your PC find it again.

No sweat Pete. I had already checked out your link (Thanks!), but just had to ask the question about the Nero upgrade/website because I figure there are probably many other people out there in the same boat as I am. Just trying to pose a question that others may not have thought of, yet could apply to them.

FWIW...a bundled 5.5 upgrade to 6.0 is $49.99 from Nero - still not as good of a deal as the eagletronics site though. Have you ever done business with them?

No I haven't done business with them but I know those who have and they say it's great - they wish they could download but the few days wait was OK -


BTW - I had Nero 5.5 and upgraded to 6.0 - $49.99 also, I had no idea about bundled -

I don't like to post things of which I'm not certain -

cheers,

Pete

When i use this compilation, Nero CD-DVD Speed gets an error when i try to test it in my DVD-ROM.

Also does the "DVD-Video" profile work on Xbox?

What kind of error OR does it close down ?



As far as XBox, I couldn't tell you as I'm not into gaming at all (check the "Old" in my sig, lol).

DVD Video makes it the same as the orignal, if a regular DVD plays in your XBox, the backup should also )

Pete

The error is in a post here .

I dont understand, do you mean if i buy a DVD and it plays on my Xbox, the back up copy should also work on the Xbox if i use DVDshrink and then burn it with the DVD-Video profile?

Thanks

Chris

Chris,

That looks like a bad spot on the disc, try cleaning it just prior to inserting it in your drive -

If I’ve misunderstood you and you have the files on your HD, it probably is a corrupted file.

I’m not sure if this will help, it’s for CD’s to find and fix bad files -

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cd...ls/cdcheck.cfm

Otherwise, you’ll need to remove that file or repair it -

Pete

Doesn't matter, something was up with nero and that firmware....... Fixed it now by flashing to another firmware.....

Thanks

"The force was with you Brother Chris, long live the Force." (lol)

Glad you're up and running -

So sorry Chris, I never answered your question -

The answer is "YES" !

At worse, you'll have experiment to find out whether to use either -R media or +R media - some boxes are picky. Try the -R media first, that seems to be the most common -

Cheers,

Pete

I used the templates from G@M3FR3@K for my DVD BURNING using NERO, and it worked a treat. Played flawlessly on the PS2 and other DVD players.

Does anyone have a great template for the NERO to burn PS2 backups at all?

I know this shouldnt be in this area but wasnt sure what area it should be in.

Cheers if you can help

I don't use Nero for that kind of things, I normally use Alcohol or maybe ClonCD.

PS2 games should be copied with software like Alcohol or DVD Decrypter. You can find more information on this by searching on the forum. The question has been asked and answered many times before! CloneCD cannot be used for PS2 back-ups since it cannot read DVD media, only CD media. CloneDVD isn't an option either since it's used for DVD-Video back-ups only. Good luck!

Sorry for some newbie questions.

Is the Nero profile from the OP still good for the latest version of Nero 6.3.1.15?

Is the profile any good when I burn using the DVDShrink and Nero?

If I have choice to burn between DVDShrink/DVD Decryper (using ISO) and DVDShrink/Nero, which one do you recommend?

G@M3FR3@K, i'd like to thank you and everyone else for this info. Just one question(for now ) I am using nero 5.5.9.9 and followed your directions for Setting up a DVD-Video compilation in Nero. In the last step when i click burn, a Save Image File box pops up. I don't want to save an image on my computer but when i click cancel on the box it aborts the burn process. I saved the image to my desktop on my first burn just to go through the process but when i put the disc in my stand alone it read "no disc". I'm assuming it never actually burned because it saved it to my harddrive instead? Any help is mucho apprecio.

Just an FYI, the files are already on my computer. All i want to do is burn them to the disc, not create another image, know what i'm sayin? Probably a setting thing, but i'm a noob.

The only time i've seen that happen is when someone uses a OEM version of Nero with a different drive than the one it came with. Is the install puchased or did it come with the drive you are using?