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Old 27-06-2006   #201 (permalink)
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Re: InCD/DirectCD - warning

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Packetwriting dont work by me !! same problems..............
No I use HI-MINIDISC of SONY
on a HI-MD disc i can put 1GB of data !
minidisc is verry good storagemedium.
Hi-MINIDISC??? is it a small 1.2 GB DVD-RW or somethin ?!
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nero 7 vision exspress

hi there my nero vision will crash all the time it lets me put the movie in then it will start to do its work then crash i have windows xp sp2 but on my other pc wins 98 its fine does anyone know the problem
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no, you have sony minidic wath can contain 74' music in CDquality,
newer is the HI-minidisc, it can contain 45 cd's of compresed music(likeMP3) on one HI-minidisc.But it's possible to put data on the disc in place of music,
1GB of data on one HI-MINIDISK!

(you can rea more on SONY's website - or put HI-MINIDISC on google !)
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no, you have sony minidic wath can contain 74' music in CDquality,
newer is the HI-minidisc, it can contain 45 cd's of compresed music(likeMP3) on one HI-minidisc.But it's possible to put data on the disc in place of music,
1GB of data on one HI-MINIDISK!

(you can rea more on SONY's website - or put HI-MINIDISC on google !)
i know i can make a search .. i'm just a bit lazy
but thanx for the info
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Problem with InCD? I was using Nero 6 and InCd 4.3.23.2. and afew days ago i was having problems with InCD. so i installed and used Nero's clean tools and upgraded to version 7. it did not work at all. more problems with InCD.

anyway, i found a remedy that worked for me. surprise. i went to control panel, adminstration tools, services and IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service. it was on "manual". i changed it to "disable". it worked for the longest time before this way.

then i went and got a fresh copy of wnaspi32.dll from nero's website and re-installed it. it was the same file but newer.

i rebooted and InCD works like a charm.

hope this helps someone.

i do not know if it will work for others but it did for me.
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Re: InCD/DirectCD - warning

This provides a little more detail about the problem, although the MS reference was very useful.

http://forums.hardwareguys.com/ikonb...ST;f=13;t=4898

Someone needs to summarize all this and set up an FAQ somewhere. Vista will have Sonic packet writing, but it isn't yet clear whether it will be based DLA, EZAdaptek-Roxio or ?
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Re: InCD/DirectCD - warning

DLA FAQ:
http://www.argentuma.com/backup/software/dla.html

DLA
Drive Letter Access
UDF packet writing driver for your CD/DVD drive

DLA is by far the most popular packet writing software, partly because it once was (and still is) available for free with many CD and DVD recording drives. DLA had been originally programmed by Veritas software engineers, and later sold to Sonic Solutions in 2002. Up to the present, both Veritas and Sonic Solutions have released a lot of custom versions of DLA to various OEM manufacturers under various OEM agreements. Most of the branded CD/DVD recording drives, both retail and OEM, now come with their custom version of DLA as a supplemental software on the driver disk. For example, there are HP, IBM, and Sony versions available. Undoubtedly, there are more. All the variations are actually built on the same codebase and technically have very little difference from the original DLA. Sonic Solutions itself sells the original DLA as a part of their $49 CD/DVD recording package.
IBM DLA

Good news, the IBM version of DLA has been reported to work with many non-IBM drives, and is also available for free online download! Download the installation package from IBM web-site and install it on your computer. It may notify you during the installation that your recording drive is not supported because either it's not an IBM branded drive or is an incompatible drive. Just ignore this message and proceed with the installation - IBM DLA still works OK with most of the drives, even if the installation program initially displays a warning like this.
IBM DLA Version 4.95, November 2004, 12 MB

Dell DLA

Another option is to use the Dell DLA package. This is actually a full installer for Sonic DLA 4.95. This package does not pay attention to the hardware platform and it installs on systems with no previous version of DLA installed.
Dell DLA Version 4.95, November 2004, 9 MB
DLA
Basic information

DLA enables direct read/write drive letter access to your CD/DVD optical drive from Windows 98, ME, NT, 2000, and XP. You can now use your CD-RW or DVD recorder for file storage and retrieval as if it were a hard drive or floppy disk. Discs must be formatted for DLA use. Drive Letter Access (DLA) is an invaluable utility that lets you drag and drop files from your hard drive to your CD or DVD recorder as easily as you would to a floppy disk. DLA makes it simple to format discs and save files. DLA makes it simple to use backup software with your CD/DVD drive, to back up your files and folders directly to the CD/DVD disc. And when you're ready, DLA's Make Compatible feature lets you share your discs with just about anyone. Making a backup copy to your CD/DVD drive is a breeze with DLA.

DLA has been designed with a commitment to accessibility. It is compatible with Microsoft's accessibility utilities and many third-party assistance products. Keyboard shortcuts are available for all major operations and menu items. In addition, all help screens and documentation have been provided in HTML or PDF formats that can be read by standard text readers.
Creating data discs

Two types of recordable discs can be used with DLA - compact discs (CDs), and digital versatile discs (DVDs). Both are available in several formats. DLA is designed to work with all of the most popular disc formats. But it's important to remember that not all discs work with all drives, and not every feature of DLA is available for every drive or every disc format.

Before you begin using DLA to create data discs, there are a few steps you should follow to ensure your data recording jobs go as smoothly as possible. Make sure your recorder drive is properly installed in your system by following the installation instructions that accompanied your drive. Ensure that DLA is properly installed on your system. If you received any error messages during installation, you may wish to re-install DLA. Make sure you have enough blank discs to record your data.
DLA and double-layer discs

DLA supports double-layer discs when used with compatible DVD recorders. Double-layer discs are also called DVD 9 discs. Double-layer discs have two reflective surfaces, one slightly beneath the other. The DVD player's laser reads one surface from the disc center to the edge, then refocuses on the other surface and reads back toward the center. Unlike double-sided discs, you do not need to turn the disc over during recording or playback. There is a small pause in playback when the laser refocuses, but this is usually not noticeable.
DLA and EasyWrite drives

DLA brings out the full potential of the new generation of EasyWrite CD-RW drives by combining the convenience of background formatting with the simplicity of drag-and-drop recording. EasyWrite drives are sometimes referred to as Mt. Rainier drives. They can read discs created in both the EasyWrite format (UDF 1.02) and the traditional DLA format (UDF 1.5). DLA has been designed to support EasyWrite drives, but EasyWrite functionality is not available in all drives. DLA automatically detects the presence of an EasyWrite drive and lets you format your CD-RW discs as EasyWrite discs or as traditional DLA discs.
Formatting your disc

All discs must be initialized (or formatted) before they can store data. DLA can perform either a Quick or Full format of your discs. Quick format is faster (generally taking less than 60 seconds), can be performed on all CD and DVD write-once discs and on previously formatted rewriteable discs, must be initially performed for all write-once media, will not repair disc errors. Full format, depending on the speed of the drive and the size of your media, can take up to 180 minutes, is only available for CD-RW and rewriteable DVD media, must be initially performed for all CD-RW and rewriteable DVD media, repairs some errors by preventing data from being written on damaged sections of the disc.

Saving files to your disc

Once DLA has formatted your disc, you can add files and folders to your recorder drive using any of the methods mentioned below:
Drag and drop files directly to your recorder drive using Windows Explorer.
Select "Save As..." from most software applications and choose your recorder drive as the destination.
Use the "Send To" command by right-clicking files and folders in My Computer or Windows Explorer and selecting DLA drive (drive letter).
Use your backup software and direct its output to the recorder drive.

Media removal
Ejecting a disc

DLA uses a memory cache to store information while writing files to a disc. DLA does not clear the cache after every write. This was implemented to:
Reduce wear on CD-RW media. The address of the last write is kept in the same location of the media. Constant cache clearing could damage the media header.
Save space on CD-R media. The address of the last write is appended to CD-R media. If the cache was cleared after every write, the end user could lose a few KB per write on their media.
Improve performance. Not clearing the cache after every write improves performance. It allows for the user to immediately write to the media without determining the last write location.

Because the cache must be cleared before your media can be removed, DLA may generate the notification message if you attempt to eject a disk immediately after writing files to a disc. The cache is cleared every 30 seconds. It is also cleared immediately when a disc is ejected. Once the cache is cleared, the device can be removed.

The 30-second waiting period described above also applies if you attempt to place your computer in Hibernate or Suspend mode immediately after writing files to a DLA disc. If you encounter a problem, eject the DLA media or close all open files, wait 30 seconds, and try again. Once the DLA cache has been cleared, your operation should proceed normally.
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Re: InCD/DirectCD - warning

An unusually informative FAQ at NTI: (Wish other firms would be as candid an helpful)

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http://www.ntius.com/faq67.asp

CD&DVD-Maker Frequently Asked Questions

Question:
"After installing CD Maker 2000, my system locks up or will only boot in Safe Mode. "

Answer:
"This problem is a device driver conflict that can be corrected by renaming the files listed below. If you want to continue using EZ-CD/DirectCD software NTI also recommends you to reinstall the CD Maker 2000 software first, then install Adaptec?s software, after renaming the files. Rename all the other files and this should correct the issue. These files are used by Cequadrat: Rename C2APIX.VXD to C2APIX.OLD Rename C2REC.VXD to C2REC.OLD These files are used by Adaptec: Rename CDR4VSD.VXD to CDR4VSD.VX_ Rename CDRPWD.VXD to CDRPWD.VX_ Rename CDUDF.VXD to CDUDF.VX_ Rename CDUDFRW.VXD to CDUDFRW.VX_ These files are used by unknown: Rename CD_READ.VXD to CD_READ.VXZ Rename DPUVSD.VXD to DPUVSD.VX_ These files are used by a parallel port scanner (most cases): Rename DRVWCDB.VXD to DRVWCDB.VX_ Rename DRVWPPQT.VXD to DRVWPPQT.VX_ Rename DRVWQ117.VXD to DRVWQ117.VX_ These files are used by unknown (LS-120 floppy drive?) Rename FD16_700.MPD to FD16_700.MP_ These files are used by an Iomega tape drive or ZIP drive. Rename IOMEGA.VXD to IOMEGA.vx_ Rename REGTAPE.VXD to REGTAPE.BAK "
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DLA FAQ:
http://www.argentuma.com/backup/software/dla.html

DLA
Drive Letter Access
UDF packet writing driver for your CD/DVD drive

DLA is by far the most popular packet writing software, partly because it once was (and still is) available for free with many CD and DVD recording drives. DLA had been originally programmed by Veritas software engineers, and later sold to Sonic Solutions in 2002. Up to the present, both Veritas and Sonic Solutions have released a lot of custom versions of DLA to various OEM manufacturers under various OEM agreements. Most of the branded CD/DVD recording drives, both retail and OEM, now come with their custom version of DLA as a supplemental software on the driver disk. For example, there are HP, IBM, and Sony versions available. Undoubtedly, there are more. All the variations are actually built on the same codebase and technically have very little difference from the original DLA. Sonic Solutions itself sells the original DLA as a part of their $49 CD/DVD recording package.
IBM DLA

Good news, the IBM version of DLA has been reported to work with many non-IBM drives, and is also available for free online download! Download the installation package from IBM web-site and install it on your computer. It may notify you during the installation that your recording drive is not supported because either it's not an IBM branded drive or is an incompatible drive. Just ignore this message and proceed with the installation - IBM DLA still works OK with most of the drives, even if the installation program initially displays a warning like this.
IBM DLA Version 4.95, November 2004, 12 MB

Dell DLA

Another option is to use the Dell DLA package. This is actually a full installer for Sonic DLA 4.95. This package does not pay attention to the hardware platform and it installs on systems with no previous version of DLA installed.
Dell DLA Version 4.95, November 2004, 9 MB
DLA
Basic information...............
Hi Smithers12. Lenovo also have more recent versions for download, why then is version 4.95 mentioned? Are newer versions unsuitable for non-IBM hardware? Does the latest version from Argentum have any advantages over version 4.95?
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I just tried installing IBM DLA Version 4.95 but after running setup.exe, a popup window Entitlement Check - This update will only work with IBM recording hardware appeared. Setup would not proceed further. Any suggestions welcome here. Perhaps this version checks if DLA has been previously installed (even if later uninstalled) and accepts that.

Sonic DLA Version 4.95 from Dell support, installed without a problem and I look forward to testing it.

My PC is a Gigabyte GA-8IRM running XP Home SP2 with the latest Microsoft updates.

I tried various versions of Ahead InCD but when copying larger files (>100MB) to CD/DVD-RW the Copying... popup window would not go away even though copying appears to have successfully completed. The window would show 5sec or 10sec to go and then remain indefinately. It could however be closed so this was perhaps just an irritation. The poor reputation of InCD also means I'm keen to give it the flick.

Given the large number of users of the OEM versions of DLA the reliability or not of this packet writing solution for CD/DVD should be already known. I think I'll check some more forums.
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I just tried installing IBM DLA Version 4.95 but after running setup.exe, a popup window Entitlement Check - This update will only work with IBM recording hardware appeared. Setup would not proceed further. Any suggestions welcome here. Perhaps this version checks if DLA has been previously installed (even if later uninstalled) and accepts that.

Sonic DLA Version 4.95 from Dell support, installed without a problem and I look forward to testing it.

My PC is a Gigabyte GA-8IRM running XP Home SP2 with the latest Microsoft updates.

I tried various versions of Ahead InCD but when copying larger files (>100MB) to CD/DVD-RW the Copying... popup window would not go away even though copying appears to have successfully completed. The window would show 5sec or 10sec to go and then remain indefinately. It could however be closed so this was perhaps just an irritation. The poor reputation of InCD also means I'm keen to give it the flick.

Given the large number of users of the OEM versions of DLA the reliability or not of this packet writing solution for CD/DVD should be already known. I think I'll check some more forums.
well, i'm sorry i can't help in DLA, i've never had any experiences with it, but i've been using InCD for ages, and it only caused my some minor problems...
currently i'm using version 4.3.23.2 which is doing ok, thugh the earlier version 4.3.20.1 was more stable and convenient...

you might try InCD 4.3.20.1 and see what it might give you, though i can't guarantee it works well for you but, it's worth trying if you have some spare time for test and trial...
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.............you might try InCD 4.3.20.1 and see what it might give you, though i can't guarantee it works well for you but, it's worth trying if you have some spare time for test and trial...
Thanks for the tip. I actually have used InCD quite a lot on my main PC with DVD-RAM disks and havn't had a problem yet apart from prematurely destroying a lot of CD-RW's.

I've since done more reading on this huge forum and decided to remove both InCD and DLI and use Panasonic's DVD-RAM drivers instead with UDF formatting. A lot of credible contributors have convinced me that this approach is more reliable. I'll continue to use Nero for burning other CD/DVD's. I have various LG SuperMulti drives on three of the PC's I look after and will now configure them all this way. LG really should pay Panasonic the few cents royalty and include this simple and effective solution with their excellent drives. I suspect the problem is with Panasonic who don't want LG's (or Samsungs) market share to increase even further.

Regarding the problem I mentioned previously with copying large files (or folders) onto a InCD formatted disk, where the Copying.... popup window does not disappear after completion, the reason was found to be WebRoot Spysweeper (Trial) getting in the way. This program greatly slowed backups and restores on HDD's as well. This program has since also been removed and replaced by Microsoft's Windows Defender and a few others.
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oh!! good to know it's working well for you now ..
actually i wasn't talking about using InCD with DVD-RAM discs, as i have no experience with DVD-RAMs at all, but from what i read all over the forum, the Panasonic drivers are always recommended... i was talking about using InCD with DVD-/+RW and CD-RW discs... i can't deny that i had some trouble with CD-RWs, but with DVD+RW it was always great for me ... InCD formatting of DVD-RW is not that flexible though, so now i'm using my DVD+RW with InCD UDF1.50, and the DVD-RW is always written in a multisession mode, never formatted...
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Sonic DLA is by far the Best Packet Writing software. Atleast for now.

I tried, DirectCD, InCD & got frustrated. Read on the Forum the DLA is reliable.

Installed it straight away & voila no probs till now. (using for 1+ month now)
I have Sonic DLA v5.2.0 on two systems. On both, it came bundled/preinstalled. (a HP laptop and a Dell PC)

On both it locks up just by inserting a DVD that it "does not like".
It "burns" 100% CPU and all instances of explorer.exe get locked up, including the desktop/taskbar/startmenu. If I manage to trigger a reboot, it takes ages.
Also the DVD unit is locked, so I can't even remove the DVD. (until after reset)

It's the same crap as the others, IMO.

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PS: I just read the README.txt of Sonic DLA 5.2.0. It lists about 20 known issues/bugs/incompatibilities ...
It is a wonder that it works for anyone.

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Eh, and today, it refused to format a disc, with an error dialog saying that I need Administrator privileges. Which I have.
Crap program ...
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umm.. dunno about DLA, but still using InCD over here 4.3.23.2.. it's working like a charm, used usually with my BenQ DW-1640 & Lite-ON LH-20A4P (used to be LH-18A1P... and worked great at the time too)... i'm using it with DVD-RW (Imation2x OPTODISCW002) and DVD+RW (Verbatim 2.4x MCC A01) those are still pretty slow but.. and newly using it with DVD-RAMs (Panasonic3x M01J3003) and two MiniDVDs, +RW (SONY2x CMCMAGW02) and -RW (Verbatim2x MCC01RW11n9)... and till the moment all is still going very great!!! maybe you should give InCD a try (or a second try if you've already did!)... Packet writing is NEVER trusted, but sometimes it's worth it ...
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Question: Using Nero 8, I chose 'not multisession' and burned a bunch of computer files to DVD. (They amounted to nearly a DVD-ful anyway.)

Would that have been this nefarious packet-writing you speak of, or as long as now I can see the files on the disk and the verification went OK, I'm good?
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Packet writing amounts to:
- normal usage of storage media


(that is : you can
- create files
- read files
- write files
- edit files
- create folders
- move files between folders
- delete files
- rename files (and folder)
- anything else that is possible to do with files (and folders)

BTW, Vista finally has builtin support for this. Just format a RW media and start using it.
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Packet writing amounts to:
- normal usage of storage media.
Thanks. The first few posts of this thread - dating back to early this decade - state some concerns. This is what I was wondering about with regard to the Nero burn I mentioned (it's to backup crucial files):

This is an excerpt of the first post in this thread:
"Programs as InCD / DirectCD and InstantWrite, which is so called packet writing software have been designed to make the access of CD-RWs / DVD-RWs easier and to allow writing them via explorer.
The idea itself is of course good, but these progams have proved being rather unreliable.

Getting a freeze / blue screen when writing to a packet writing disc will result in an unreadable disc!

There are several other known bugs without any reliable workaround:
  • A disc is formatted, but when you reinstert it, it isn't recognised as being formatted
  • The disc works for some time, and suddenly, without any reason, it is unreadable / recognised as not being formatted
  • blue screens / freezes caused by packet writing software
The worst is that all packet writing software I know has these issues. Therefore I strongly recommend not to use packet writing but make multisession discs

There are of course some people who have no problem with packet writing (it had worked for me for about 4 years before making the abovementioned crap suddenly), but the risk of data loss is always present and too high in my opinion."
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Burning with Nero has nothing to do with packet writing.

How did you find this thread in the first place ?
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