Hello everybody,

This is my first post here.

I am having the same problem i guess.

I use NERO OEM 6 latest upgraded version including INCD4 with Philips PBDV 1640P DVD-RW and i have written many data dvd's. I burned and VERIFIED succesfully, but i cannot read the content of the DVD-R written.

It is very rare, but sometimes, 1 of 10 i can say, if i try and try again, i can access the data. bUT THE REST i cannot read any..

Otherwise, the windows shows the dvd-r BLANK CD.

What should i do ?

Really need your help.

Notes: I did not have any complaints about my dvd burning so far, its lenses clean and working perfectly.

How will i access my written DATAS in that DVD-R ?

Normally i don't choose multisession burning, but in case of multisession burning and if the case is because the session is not closed ? How can i close it manually.

I know, there might be lots of topics regarding this matter, but i couldnt find a satisfactory solution..

I appreciate your immediate answers....

NETGUYTR

i can see that, and it's what drives me to think it's more of a Samsung specific problem

Well, considering a) Samsung included an early version of INCD4 on the CD that comes with the drive and b) Samsung have already told me that there should be no conflict unless there is some other software clashing with it and they mention Windows own packet writing software, which unfortunately isn't a separate item in my system. DirectCD I don't have.

I guess for Nero at least, I wont keep my applications up to date, INCD-wise anyway.

My Support request to Nero has now gone unanswered for 4 days, but I'd be interested to hear what they say this time.
My previous attempt they mentioned a patch, which never materialised.

I brought a nec dvd rw nd 3530a and Nero 6. When I place a blank DVD into the tray, the drive doesn't recognize it. What can I do? The InCd format doesn't allow the start button to work.

Hi,

I think I have had one of the nicer versions of this bug he. Never having had any problems with cd-rw, I wanted to use dvd+rw. Format, put all the files on.... Some time later, having changed computers, I need to put the files in my new system. I start copying. All of a sudden, the copying hangs. A bit like the disc would be hard to read. A bit strange with a brand new tdk dvd, a brand new plextor 716a. Nothing can be done until finaly i have to reboot.

After that i get the message as if you don't have any rw software installed. The why are you seeing this page by nero... Have had this problem with two discs, and then gave incd the boot, now using multisession.

Now that's genius... How can you be so stupid to write software that fucks the file allocation table on a read action..... ?????? How do you confuse read actions from write actions???? That really takes good developpers... That's clearly not the fault of udf... That's incd.. no excuse

Failed treatments up to date are isobuster, plus a whole lot data recovery programs... I had hoped that since rw behaves like a hard disc towards other software, data recovery might have been possible, but no software i found does optical storage. Of course it also doesn't react like a hard disc if incd doesn't recognise it anymore....

With isobuster, i have the impression that looks at the file system, and if that is fucked, no data gets recovered. It didn't even recognise the discs either...

Frustrating thing is, the data has definitely not been erased. Can even see that by looking at the bottom of the disc. If I could only get that stream of it, I would be able to reconstruct my files myself...

Gonna try some of the other packet writers suggested on this page.

I have some questions...

Does anybody know of any software for windows that just reads every sector of a disc, ignoring all file systems or anything, just getting back what is fysically there in raw hex or better... since isobuster clearly doesn't do this, since it doesn't even find a disc?

If this doesn't exist, is there high demand for this to be written, otherwise I might opt to do so, since I want my data back anyway?

Found this topic at microsoft:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/321640/en-us

Isobuster Pro (I use v1.9.0.3) does have a sector view function. I would think it should work even if the directory structure is hosed, as long as the disk can initialize enough for a read. If so you can right click the disk in the left side window and a pop-up window shows both hex and ASCII. There is also an option to save the data to a file. I don't know if it's available in free trial versions though.

For those still having problems with InCD versions above 4.3.14.1....

woooohooo.. that's a good step from Nero team
and sorry u still have problems Ex-Brit

Yes it looks like I'm doomed.

hey!! don't be sad, ur not necessarily Doomed!! maybe just.. Cursed!
and the Curse will be broken on the release of InCD 4.3.37.1

LOL.... well I haven't got InCD installed anyway at the moment...intereferes with 1Click...etc. So I just did my usual backups this time using Nero Startsmart/Express and not only was it quicker but I have the added advantage of being able to squeeze almost 200mb more onto the CD (InCDFS format gives 539mb and CDFS gives 702mb).
So TTFN InCD, I don't care if you bring out version 9.9.10.9 !!

(Of course I will try the new version when available....I'm not accepting bets on how it works.)

well, u might be right for CDs... but i'm quite happy with my Verbatim DVD+RW (InCD formatted ) although it's 2.4X only (i didn't find faster Verbatim +RWs!!)
InCD is performing extremely great with me, it just gave me a great 4Gig portable HDD ... with no troubles with any DVD-Combo-DVD-RW drive..

I agree

quite an interesting post i agree too

That is exactly the kind of problems I've experinced. It seems there is a connection to the CD or DVD. If the CD/DVD is in perfect shape, this problem doesn't show up. 2 of 15 Verbatim 4x DVD-RW is working good and (wow!) one of my 20 old CD-RW also. A TDK DVD+RW also fails... so no connection to the brand.

All the others take somewhat 100 - 600 mb of data and suddenly this stupid sign is telling that the files are writeprotected and bla, bla, bla.

When using the working CD or DVDs, of cours I have the "InCD-is-veeeeeeeeery-slow"-problem.

I did try a demo of Dragon Disc.... seems lika whoever made that program doesn't have that kind of problem, but I don't know if it works good on all my DVD-RW or if I have other problems in my system except for InCD.

I've ditched INCD in favour of Nero Express which records more data in half the time using drag and drop.

whcih Samsung Drive are u using?

What's funny about all these CD ROM problems is that technology is not getting better, it is getting worse. The old floppy drives worked great. Once in a while you would have a problem with a floppy disk going bad.

Drag and drop for floppy drives has existed for eons
Drag and drop for floppy drives? Saving a file to a floppy drive directly? This was available ever since Norton Commander or Windows 3.1

For crying out loud. It is year 2006, many many years past the Windows 3.1 days and we still can't save data to a proper medium?

Most people are so fed up with CD-RW drives and DVD-RW drives that they just save everything on their hard drive and forget about doing backups. This is very dangerous - but what choice do we have? Can't save to a zip drive or tape drive - those are a waste of time.

Get your priorities straight, computer companies
It is year 2006 and Microsoft and other software vendors have it all wrong - they are worrying about the next operating system, .NET Architecture, Internet - and all software vendors are still adding more and more bloat/features to their software applications. But the reality is most people would be happy with Microsoft Office 95 if they JUST HAD a good medium to store their data on! They'd trade in Microsoft Office 2006 any day, and go back to Office 95 if they could just have some good medium to store their files on. They'd go back to using frame based ugly websites and skip out on the whole AJAX technology if they could just have some good medium to store their data on! Get your priorities straight !

Data must be safe and reliable before software features can be used
First comes data integrity, then comes features. We hear about all these people with databases talking about data integrity of the database like SQL servers. Forget the integrity of the database ! Consider the CDROM/DVD integrity first. Because if you back up an SQL database on a DVD/CD or a hard drive, you aren't sure that that file will be there in a few months! Hard drive storage is not for backup - CD's are not for back up - Zip drives are a waste of time. What left? Memory cards. That's what's left.

The future, then?
What will we see in the future? My prediction is that DVD/CD's will become obsolete in the computer industry and everyone will be using 1GB-10GB SD/FLASH storage cards. The price of storage cards like SD/FLASH MUST GO DOWN to about $2-10 per 500MB in order for this to happen. Currently I saw a 1GB memory card for CDN$20 and it was SD format.

Think about year 2015: will all CDROM/DVD drives be completely utter useless crap? Will we all be using memory cards?

Your floppy drive still has more legs than your CD-ROM will ever own
For small files, you are better off using a floppy drive. Do you have an essay or article you just wrote that you want to save? Better off using a floppy. Sad, but true. And not many laptops even ship with floppies any more - which is again sad. You could in fact use a memory card to save files to - but they still cost just a bit too much.

The future, once again
Again: future prediction: all CD/DVD drives will be obsolete in maybe 10 years. The CD/DVD players for AUDIO/VIDEO may still exist in 10 years, but I predict for computer needs, most people will NOT be using CD/DVD. I sure hope that we will NOT be using CD/DVD within 5 years - I hope it doesn't take 10 years.

Name one advantage of CD-ROM medium over memory cards
The only advantage of CD-ROMS/DVDs that I can think of is that they are disposable consumer goods - which means the companies selling these junk medium make money. But prices of CD/DVD are so low that I can't see how they can make much money anyway. They'd be better off getting into the memory card business and admitting that CD/DVD technology is a complete waste of time and silly invention. CDROMS/DVDS were good in theory - but much too many glitches in actual practice.

Physical problems with DVD/CD ROM media, not just software problems
Not only do we have software problems with CD/DVD media - we also have PHYSICAL problems. The PHYSICAL problem of a CD/DVD is that it ATTRACTS dirt and dust. A CD/DVD is charged with static electricity and literally wants dirt to come near it. The CD/DVD sucks in dirt like a magnet. Cleaning your CD/DVD with a cloth? Good luck - there is no such thing as cleaning a CD/DVD and not scratching it. Even the most delicate and dust-free clothes will still scratch a CD.

Go back to the Giant Floppy Disk idea from Bill Gates?
I would prefer a floppy disk 3 times the size of a regular floppy, over a CD. I would prefer a memory card, over a CD. The reality is that they are probably not going to create gigantic floppy disks. The reality is that they are probably going to sell more and more SD/Flash memory cards and our prayers will be answered - there will no longer exist any poor and terrible CD/DVD media ever again.

Glass CD-ROMS are not an option.. Duh? How about Memory Cards?
Other than memory cards - I can't think of a more convenient solution to our problem. Plastic is an oil based product and I doubt they could use glass to store data on CD's without causing other issues (such as glass being heavier to spin). So we can't have glass CD's and we can't find a medium other than oil based plastic to store our data sticker on? Either go back to the gigantic floppy idea or start considering flash/memory cards, dear vendors.

Be prepared to go job hunting..
And I hope all the software programmers at Roxio/Nero and all the other CD software companies consider that their jobs may be in danger. Because in 5-10 years, I sure won't and thousands of other folks will NOT be using CD/DVD drives on a computer system.

L505...
GOD!!! and he thinks that floppies and SD are more safe than CD's!!!! what the!!!!
NOTHING lasts forevr... that's for sure... CD's have a great durability, especially the old dyes.... R.I.P. Cyanine TYs and Metal AZO from Verbatim (still got these Mitsubishi CDs.. Dark dark blue... ) and pressed discs have a great resestance... but, of course, if u break a CD or walk over it with a Bulldozer it won't be readable!!!! like... cmon!!! if u put a floppy in a mgnetic field it's RUINED!!!! the same goes for HDD and other stuff!!! like what?! u want to go back to paperwork?! even paper deteriorates?!.. LPs too.. NOTHING HERE, EVEN STONES LAST FOREVER!!! ok.. if u want to carve ur data on a basalt rock... go do it.... but EVEN THAT is vulnerable!!!

for God sake!!! CD's are made of plastic.... right... Floppies too!!! the base disc which u have Fe or Cr Oxides stuck on IS a Polymer... a PLastic product....

anyway ....

InCD comes in handy when you want to synchronize your data between the hard disk and the CD/DVD. I use InCD 5 (in the Nero 7 package) and it has been working without a hitch for me so far. For 'syncing', Backer (Cordes Development) is ideal. Then files in several folders can be 'synced' without having to erase the disc and manually dragging and dropping files. DVD-RAM is ideal, but it's too expensive compared to DVD+/-RWs.

well ... if ur talking about DVD-+RW's.. then i can't deny it
but CD-RWs and MRW had their problems.... and the problems are as varied as CD writers themselves.... i was lucky having some of the best drives to handle InCD RWs and MRWs.... but had some other drives whcih kept on making errors....
but that DOESN'T apply to DVD-RW or DVD+RW

can someone tell me if you can devide a 3 hr movie with nero. i have gotten as far as putting it into chapters.

second i would like to know if there are any problems with using identical drives on the same system with nero.

two lite on drives. the only difference is one is super all write and the other is not. but both show up the same in the bios.




amd 3500+ venice
asus a8v rev 1.xxxx
2 GB ram
2 lite on drives{love them }
one sata hd 160 gb
one simplte tech 160 gb usb
and diamond stealth 256 gb 9259 vid card
and wintv,

well, 1st of all.. welcome to the forums

2nd... ur posting ur problem in the wrong thread... go here to this forum, and u'll surely find someone who can help
Video Edit Software sub-forum

Packetwriting dont work by me !! same problems..............
No I use HI-MINIDISC of SONY
on a HI-MD disc i can put 1GB of data !
minidisc is verry good storagemedium.