Well tylau ,

I think You got Your opinion through ... but somehow your 3 extra copies of Your reply are now deleted !?!?!
And as for me and my experiment with with AccuBurn I have "irregular" experiences ;
yet I have been busy with a couple of other thousainds things and cannot for sure disregard this packetwriting-software from ArrowKey .

I have another question in the General Hardware Forum
about S-ATA and playing "old" games , I hope someone can answer that .

CU here / later / some day ...

Notice that the time of formating has been drastically reduced with CD-MRW, DVD+RW, DVD+MRW (these 3 are background formatted) and (physically Quick Formatted) DVD-RW. DVD-RAM are sold pre-formatted (thus you just have to place the filesystem structure on it, the low level formatted is already done by the media manufacturer).

Additionally, if you use a (R-able) packet writing application on an R media there is no formatting I believe (although I'm not an R-expert).

I am interested in a packet writing software that runs under XP and does not conflict with cloneDVD, Norton Antivirus or other major programs. This thread is quite informative but need to be updated.
Is the latest InCD the way to go?

Thanks

Hi

You're right ; we need some updating in here !
Regarding Arrowkey (which BTW has a nice update to CDVD-diagnostic) there hasn't been an update of AccuBurn-R since last summer and I don't feel convinced they got the "torch" - but Neros InCD seems to undergo radical changes .
Newest is 4.1.5.10 (only for CDVD*RW's !) , but Ahead Software have announced a major upgrade to its CD and DVD recordable application, InCD 4.2 and it might include "R-writing" .

However there might be a new star yet to investigate ... for some time Pinnacles Instant CD/DVD has amazed me (made a perfect backup of 5th element on LG 4040B) by being ridiculously cheap (9£/16,5$ at least in Denmark) and a totally effective allround-solution . Actually so good , that I considered not buying Nero 6 times more expensive too ! (Juggling with words and numbers here ...)
Instant CD/DVD has this PW-feature called InstantWrite which is interesting , i.e. having a choice of UDF-formatting as 1.02 , 1.50 , 2.00 0r 2.01 .

Still I cannot judge about the PW-software as I'm too busy and therefore mostly use PlexTools CD/DVD-ROMmaker to store data or transport RW-data , but I will find the time someday !

I have been using InCD in my desktop for years because I like the convenience of using InCD and being able to use a backup program to synchronize files on my hard disk with those on a DVD-RW.

So after some deliberation, I finally took a deep breath, uninstalled NTI FileCD, and installed InCD 4.2.4.1 in my Acer Aspire 2003 laptop.

A full format of a DVD-RW went OK in the Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-815A drive. Then while copying more than 2GB of files to the DVD-RW, I got a blue screen and the system restarted.

When the laptop restarted, I optimized it by setting the ATI display OpenGL, DirectCD, etc. all to 'performance' instead of 'quality' and Windows colour quality to 16-bit instead of 32-bit. Also, in Control Panel - System - Advanced - Settings - Advanced, Processor Scheduling was set to background services instead of programs. Then I did a quick format of the DVD-RW in InCD and copying 2GB of files to the DVD-RW in Windows Explorer proceeded smoothly.

So it looks like you have to make the system as efficient as possible to reduce the chance of seeing the blue screen.

However, for really important data, I would not rely solely on a RW disc formatted with InCD or any other packet writing software. And instead of moving files, I copy all the files before deleting them from the hard disk, in case some adverse event arises.

Perhaps some of you might reason that it not worth all the trouble - might as well not use PW. Of course, you could use an RW disc with a mastering software such as NTI CD&DVD Maker, Nero or Easy CD Creator to record to RW like recoding to a R disc. This might be the safest way to go. It's more convenient not to wear a crash helmet on a motorbike, but you have to bear the consequences when a crash occurs. If you ride REALLY carefully, though, you can lessen the chances of a crash.

Sorry for that crash Are you running Windows XP? If so, did you submit your crash report to Microsoft "Windows Error Report"?

Ahead is participating to this effort to make Windows more stable. And we do address all issues reported to us through this program. Notice also that if the crash you are experimenting has already been resolved, you will be redirected to a web page giving you a solution to your issue. And the crash analysis is powerful enough to find out which of your drivers did crash the system (then you are no more wondering if it's your new software, your graphic board driver, or whatever else).

Yes, I am using Windows XP Home, and no, I cancelled the prompt to send a report to Microsoft when the system restarted. I'll send it next time if it happens again and if my laptop is connected to the net.

Is there a web site where I can get the answers to FAQs and other tips for InCD?

Thanks.

After years of not being able to have any packet writing software on my PC because it makes the whole thing unstable I thought I'd give InCD another go and for the first time ever my PC is still stable.

Of course that still doesn't make packet writing a safe way to store data but at least I can now use it in the few situations where it is effective.

This is with InCD 4.2.9.1.

So if you've always had to remove InCD in order to keep your PC stable maybe you should try InCD 4.2.9.1.

Perhaps when Mount-Rainier (EasyWrite) drives become more common packet writing will be robust enough for everyday use.

Thanks for the update. My laptop is now running stably with InCD 4.2.4.1. Is there an advantage to upgrade to 4.2.9.1? I'm afraid that it may uninstall InCD in the process and my DVD drive may not be able to write anymore, like the last time when I tried to upgrade 4.2.4.1 over an older 4.x version. I guess the adage "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" rules here, but the temptation is there.

Probably not. That's just the version I happened to try after a long period of not having InCD installed at all.

Well after many attempts to get INCD to behave with repeatable results, I have thrown in the towel and removed it from my system. It is just as you say, sometimes it sees my files, other times not.

It could be an issue with the file browser I am using, which is Powerdesk5. I noticed that if I put in a disc made with INCD and can read it and then put in another disc made with INCD, it still shows the contents of the first disc.
It appears that it cannot refresh. If I double click on a file that was on the first disc, but a different disc is in the drive, well that really confuses the system and it becomes unstable.

So now I do multisesson and feel confident now that I can access my files at a later date with repeatable results.

Frank

I've been using InCD 4.2.4.1 on my desktop and laptop for aboout two months now and it has proved pretty stable for CD-RWs and DVD-RWs. Also, there's no problem with refresh in Windows Explorer. I noticed with some file browsers, that you may need to manually refresh the screen, unlike Windows Explorer. Why not try it with Windows Explorer to see whether the problem exists? This is a well-tested file manager. Besides, it comes with Windows, so it should have been optimized for it.

Personally, I don't like Powerdesk because it doesn't show images as thumbnails, which is an important feature for me as I do a lot of digital photography. However, I am also trying out Windows File Explorer 0.5.3 (http://downloads.suntimes.com/produc...eID%5Dsuntimes), which is a simple freeware program that has the thumbnail feature, and two window panes, like Powerdesk. If you don't need all those extras in Powerdesk, this might work for you.

Well I did try manual refreshing and it didn't work. But I will try when I get time using INCD with Explorer. I have heard some packet writing software has to have autoinsert notification enabled in the cd\dvd drive. Is this an issue in Nero?

On Powerdesk I did look at it to see if I could see my photos as thumbnails instead of file names and I discovered I could. I went to view and changed the view from "details" to "thumbnails". Now this is in version 5. I don't think version 4.2, which was the last version I used, had this feature.

Frank Howell

I don't know about autoinsert notification. Perhaps you could try to turn it off. Have a look at the experiences in this forum: http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/searchp...mitbutton=+OK+.

I must have tried Powerdesk version 4.2 and gave it up after that, but you've changed my mind about it. It may be a good alternative to Windows Explorer then, if your problem is not caused by this program.

I decided to give Drag to Disc a try and have for the last 4 days been using Drag to Disc. I have made CD and DVD disks with all my Photos, software updates and finished VCD's and each day I have added and deleted files from these rewritable discs. This software is version 6.1 basic that came with my Plextor 12X. I used INCD cleantool for removal of INCD. With Drag to Disc it is far faster then INCD. I would guess that it it 50% faster. I think that I will wait until a new version of INCD is out before trying it again. I still use Neroburning Rom and Nero Express, as they work well.

Frank Howell

Hi all,

Trying to clear some hard drive space, I recently moved about 4GB of data to a Fuji DVD+RW using the latest version of InCD. My drive (451s) wrote and read fine, but I added more data today and now when I try to read the disc, I get the following error:

D:\ is not accessable
The file or directory is corrupted and unreadable

I've tried the disc in another dvd drive and get the same error. I tried isobuster and it won't read it either. Am I screwed??

Thanks for any help.

Did you format the DVD+RW disc earlier using InCD Format instead of merely erasing it with InCD Erase? Is the disc dirty - it might need to be cleaned. A gentle wipe with a piece of spectacles cleaning cloth should remove fingerprints and grime. I have experienced this problem before, but for me it was no big loss as I have learnt to never trust packet writing software. I use it only for convenience in backing up data, and I have several backups in different media. Never, ever MOVE data to a disc formatted with InCD or other packet writing software.

I believe you are screwed, sorry to say, but maybe someone else knows if the data can still be recovered.

Thanks for the reply and yes, I did format with InCD but... I have recovered the data!! I wasn't giving up so quickly... here's what I did. With the disc in my 451s, I was able to use Disc Info in Nero Start Smart and it showed the track. Why the disc was readable this way I don't know, as the disc could not be read in Windows Explorer with either my 451s or my 163D.

I then tried the Copy Function in Nero and was able to create an image (.nrg) of the disc and saved it on my hard drive. I then opened the .nrg in ISOBuster and viola, there was all my data! But upon closer inspection some data was still missing. So I used the "Find missing files and folders" function in ISOBuster and viola once again...all 4GB of the data I "moved" was restored. What a GREAT program!!

I then did a full format of the disc in Nero and the disc is fine now. I also immediately uninstalled InCD and will never use it, or anything like it again. Thanks again for the help. If anyone has an unreadable disc, you might try my metheod. Worked for me!!

Hi, I'm new here...


Unfortunately I am pretty much a novice when it comes to anything past using computer editing software and my philips dvd+rw 416 (or so it says on the box) has completely disappeared from my computer.

It is all installed inside the system itself but no search or anything like that can identify that it is there.


Apparently it is something to do with the driver...


Can anybody help?? am I even in the correct forum???



Thanks.



Serj

Hi Serj,
I'm sorry but I think you should start a new thread with a different title, because this is a different subject. This thread is about packet writing software like InCD or DirectCD. Your post might not be seen by many people otherwise.

Okay thanks... I wasn't too sure what to do...



Serj

I like record now by sonic for all cdr/dvdr recording and incd for dvdrw and cdrw recording. nero burning rom is not easy like record now

Sonic DLA is by far the Best Packet Writing software. Atleast for now.

I tried, DirectCD, InCD & got frustrated. Read on the Forum the DLA is reliable.

Installed it straight away & voila no probs till now. (using for 1+ month now)

wow, so glad i found this cool forum. well, i have lots of q's but here is one that must be right for this thread:

using new sonydrx700something external burns everything and bundled version of Nero updated to the latest levels, all modules, winXP SP2. i have InCD running in sys tray with lauchINCD when blank is inserted.

here's the strange behavior and maybe it's just me, and i dont get it:
1.insert blank dvd-r, in windows explorer the drive icon changes to DISK, but when I click on it, it says: drive:/not accessible - incorrect function.
2.insert blank dvd+r, in windows explorer the drive icon DOES NOT CHANGE, but when I click on it, it says: drive:/not accessible - incorrect function.
3.insert blank dvd+rw, in windows explorer the drive icon changes to DISK, and blank windows explorer box pops up, with CDFS formatted DVD? not sure about this, just ran out of DVD+RWs, all others are formatted using Nero and with INCDFS -working fine.

Is this right? thanks!
jigs

ps all other programs in NEro seem to work fine with these same disks, ie. express, and whatnot. is it that InCD only works with +rw?

I am using InCD 4.2.9.1 with DVD-RWs with no problem.
Check the setting on your external DVD drive. It should probably be set up as master.
Try this site: http://forums.windrivers.com/showthr...drive+function.