2 Kenshin
[offtop]If I have posted a link to japanese forum - would you think I'm japanese as well? )) Kenshin... anata wa mou anime otaku desu ne?
Joking... Well, as long as Siberia is a part of Russia... The only thing that concerns me is WHY in the name of Hell Siberia is a part of Russia? You may think I'm a separatist and you won't make a big mistake... Live in Novosibirsk.[/offtop]

Dunno whether the topic is appropriate to discuss such things... But - haven't seen any 12x DVD media here, in the Cold Siberia. Moreover, OmniPatcher doesn't provide codes for 12x DVD-R media - do they even exist?!

I'm not fluent in Japanese but I also watch Anime. I don't regard myself as an Otaku. You are the FIRST person I've seen on CDFreaks to have a link to a Russian site and you are also the FIRST person who says Siberia in the profile. I also link a lot of times to Japanese forums which is very common on CDFreaks for Westerners and East Asians in general. I vaguely remember the name Novosibirsk. (As for separatist thing, perhaps far too off-topic here, but a very, very interesting one.)

12x DVD-R media do not exist as far as I know. What I had in mind was to over-speed some 8x DVD-R media such as SONY08D1, MXLRG03, and TYG02 to 12x.

Speed hacking works fine with the new omnipatcher (v1.3.17) and my Liteon 852S(PST3)
Thank!!!

2Kenshin
I'm so shy...
I'd be really glad to discuss all those things with you, yet in another topic. Sure don't wanna make moderators become upset!
Hmm... I wonder what could this give. Well, at least we SURE have to try it out.

Bought some DVD+RW and DVD-RW Verbatim media gonna try it...

Hm. I don't use over-speed when writing to DVD+RW or DVD-RW. Never tried though. They are too sensitive and reflectivity is very low so using only at the rated speeds is good I think.

2Kenshin
Sure. It's just I've never used DVD+/-RW with this drive, 'cause I've bought it on the 7th of November...
Though, I've got enough of MCC 02RG20 and today I gonna try to burn it on 12x...

P.S.: I had to download a new version of OmniPatcher before saying it doesn't provide 12x for DVD-R... My fault.

Hi, I must be missing something or have been up too long, but I downloaded the omnipatcher and unpacked the rar file. All that unpacks is a txt file. How do I execute omnipathcer? I checked on the omnipatcher website website

Make sure that you are using the latest version of WinRAR or unrar or 7Zip. Older versions seem to have problems with unpacking RAR files made by newer versions of WinRAR.

Thanks. I just realised my winrar was over 1 year old. I updated it and now it works.

Hi there, maybe you all think I totally weird, trying to slow down my 1633S, but I'm not!
The thing is that I've got an old standalone Samsung DVD-player (DVD811), and this player is quite difficult to get along with, if you know what i mean..? If I use the wrong type of DVD-R/DVD+R discs it won't play off the movie. At one point I did find out something, and that something was that if I slowed down the burning-speed to 2,4 on +R discs, my old Samsung playd the disc without any silly hickups at all. This was back in the good old days, before I bought my 1633S. I've got three different types of DVD+R discs, and I know the disc itself is possible to burn at 2,4, 'cause I've done that with my old LG drive. My 1633 won't do that, burn at 2,4. I've tried the Omnipatcher-trics, but unfortunally with no luck. It reckognizes the discs as 2,4 discs, and it also burns on them, but with the most horrible result , non-playable discs is the result, not even the DVD-ROM drive in my PC will read the discs.

This is the three different disc-types I've tried out this on:

With this Verbatim disc, I managed to get a couple of OK discs.
Drive Type = DVD DUAL
Disc Type = DVD+R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 4D 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 (MCC.....)
Disc TID = 30 30 32 (002)
Nominal Capacity = 4.38GB
Manufacturer Maybe = Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 4.0X (Write)

This Samsung disc didn't co-operate at all..
Drive Type = DVD DUAL
Disc Type = DVD+R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 42 65 41 6C 6C 30 30 30 (BeAll000)
Disc TID = 50 34 30 (P40)
Nominal Capacity = 4.38GB
Manufacturer Maybe = BeAll
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 4.0X (Write)

Same goes for this eProformance discs...
Drive Type = DVD DUAL
Disc Type = DVD+R (Single Layer)
Disc MID = 50 52 4F 44 49 53 43 00 (PRODISC.)
Disc TID = 52 30 33 (R03)
Nominal Capacity = 4.38GB
Manufacturer Maybe = Prodisc Technology Inc.
SMART-BURN Speed Limit = 8.0X (Write)

The only thing.., I'm not really sure if I tried to burn the eProformance-discs on 2,4 with my LG, but i think so.

Is there any way to burn discs on 2,4X with my 1633S? Why is it only possible to burn faster, and not possible to slow down a bit (or so it seems..)?

I'd be really grateful to any good ideas that might pop up, so don't hesitate if you think you maybe know the answer...

2Tarzan666
Wazzup? I always allow 2.4x for +R and 1x and 2x for -R - yet just for testing purposes...
You can even do THIS... if you're enough of a maniac )) {see below}

in nero on the box to pick burn speed is there no 2.4? also are you using the same disc?(do the mid code match?) i can not understand why burning slower helps unless the media is crap and only burns on slow speeds, also stand alone players are cheap (they prefer low prices) and meida speed is going up, perhaps it is time for a new player and new discs,also do your disc play in other players?
Bruce

to Tarzan666: Don't suffer so much just for an old player, like braynes said, it is the time to buy a new player...... nothing would bother you anymore.

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Asus P4P800
P4 3GHz
Kingston 1GB
Maxtor 160(8 meg)
Liteon SOHW-1213@1633

Hi there!
Jupp, I know, but this isn't the problem. There's no problem in the editing of the file itself, but when I try to burn a disc in 2,4 the result is not acceptable...

2Tarzan666
Ooooops.... So you CAN do it, it's just results are awful? Mmmmm... Sorry.
Well, then it's not a problem of Omnipatcher

2Admons
Would be better to divide the topic in two independant...

2Tarzan666
And give us some shot at least...

Everything seems OK, NERO shows 2.4, and I can start the burning-process. Sometimes it burns the whole file, sometimes not. Anyhow the disc is unplayable on my standalone DVD-player. I'm using all kinds of media, and so far all the media I've been using works OK in every matter, except from if i try the 2.4 burning on my 1633.
-No player will accept my 2.4 discs made with my 1633, and all DVD-players accepts my 2.4 discs made with my old LG-drive..!
-Any discs burnt in higher speed (4x, 8x) than 2.4 works great in all the DVD-players I've tested them on, except from my fav player, my old Samsung 811.

I'm a student, and as I've just bought this new LiteOn burner, I can't afford any new DVD-player. Actually I can't see why I should get a new player, it's brilliant in every way, except from the 2.4 issue... Maybe I'd rather go get back my old LG-drive from my brother..?

Why the result is better with slow burningspeed? Fewer errors in the output media, easier job for the laserpickup, and close to no error-correction during play-off as the direct result of the slow burning. I know this might sound like crsp for some of you guys, but anyhow I think this is the answer. A similar result goes for CD-burning. There's not enough space, or time, to explain this in details, but I read a test made by professionals using DVD/CD recorders in the high-end area. They performed so called blind-tests, they didn't know what kind of disc they watched/listened to. The result was not as expected; the copies had better performance than the originals, as long as the copy was burnt in slow speed, and the original disc was stored on the harddrive, and not copied "on the fly". This method let's the DVD-ROM drive do all the error-corrections when making a backup on the harddrive. Burning in slow speed makes few new errors, and ... Voila! Superb sound and vision!

I think that the old Samsung is picky in one way only; it won't play off discs in bad quality. No damaged discs with chicken-fat fingerprints, and no discs burnt on 4x or higher. Only perfect discs made in 2.4X is accepted, and then I just need to feed the old thingy with her favourite, right?

Of course you're right, this isn't caused by the Omnipatcher, but I guess that you guys have more experience than me on this issue, so thats why I chose this thread/forum. Maybe I was doing something wrong you know..

2Tarzan666
Ha-ha. I joined later than you )

Where are the shots?

Can you please tell me what you mean, when you're askin for shots..?

"chicken-fat fingerprints" please do not ask to borrow anything from me lol
Bruce

2Tarzan666
Just dunno whether I shall call 'em SCREENshots... INTERFACEshots, mybe?
I mean, read one or two with KProbe and press that save button, you''l get interesting .png files...

Ok, I'll give it a shot ( hi hi) ASAP.

T666

Rentals mate, rentals...

Just wanted to tell ya that I don't bother to do this, as I can't see how doing this will help me with my problem. I don't know which "one or two" you're talkin about.., discs? What is a .png-file?

PNG is Portable Network Graphics. It's the graphical format we use here on cdfreaks because it is very compact and produces excellent quality. When you save a scan, be it with KProbe, Nero CD-DVD Speed or MS Paint, this is the format you should select on the save dialog.

I think ajaxas meant read one of two discs with KProbe to see the quality of your burns. You can read about KProbe and how to interpret the scans, in these links:
http://kprobe.cdfreaks.com/
http://www.cdfreaks.com/article/147/5
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....threadid=80545