Liteon SOHW-832s dual layer - Club CDFreaks

*nicw* · 15-04-2004

Folks,

I have had the dual layer liteon drive a mere 24 hours and already there are those who are being hasty at saying I am hiding information and or not provding detailed info, or bragging etc etc,

Just settle petal, the last 24 hours have been hectic both with my work, my family and looking at this new drive and updating infopro to support its extra modes and features.

Here is some info you have all been so anxious to see. This is my second post of this (watch out for the phantom post deleter)

The drive (SOHW-832s) is a DVD-R 8x, DVD+R 8x, DVD-RW 4x, DVD+RW 4x, and DVD+R DL 2.4x.

I have looked at the drive and compared it to a 812s. Unless I am mistaken it seems to use the same chipset but different revisions and the PUH seems to be different. The spindle motor also has a different part number. How much of this is relevant remains to be seen.

SOHW-832s:
Chipsets
MT1816E 0404 BUS y51290
MT1818E 0402 ARS HG2R8

Spindle motor:
Sony DRW-2S Part # 310177BDC

PUH:
BQ3549-2P DB SLO-E

SOHW-812s:
Chipsets
MT1816E 0347 BUS Z35132-SE2
MT1818E 0339 ARS HFSK9

Spindle Motor:
Sony DVW-2S Part # 310201ADC

PUH:
AQ9994-DR DBSLO-D

More info as it comes to light,

Cheers
NicW

*code65536* · 15-04-2004

*Hypnosis4U2NV* · 15-04-2004

Will this make any sort of difference trying to OC the 812S to a 832S?

How bout leaking the firmware for testing?

Good info none the less..

*code65536* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Hypnosis4U2NV
Will this make any sort of difference trying to OC the 812S to a 832S?

How bout leaking the firmware for testing?

Good info none the less..

Actually, since he also has a 812S...

*nicw* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Hypnosis4U2NV
Will this make any sort of difference trying to OC the 812S to a 832S?

How bout leaking the firmware for testing?

Good info none the less..

Sorry as much as I would like to I simply cannot bite the hand that feeds me. It would be very unethical of me to release the firmware

cheers
NicW

*Wesociety* · 15-04-2004

Thanks for all the info NicW

*Hypnosis4U2NV* · 15-04-2004

NicW: Understood.. Though it shouldnt stop you from fooling around with it? (i.e 812S@832S)

*code65536* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Hypnosis4U2NV
NicW: Understood.. Though it shouldnt stop you from fooling around with it? (i.e 812S@832S)

...since he's also the one with the DL media to test to see if the OC worked. But then again, I'm not sure if he'd be willing to kill a (very expensive) DL disc testing that.

*code65536* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by nicw
It would be very unethical of me to release the firmware

I am curious about the version, though. VST_?

*nicw* · 15-04-2004

Hmm yeah well, they are $50US per disc, and I have three. I have not burned any at all yet as I want to make sure the test is useful first.

I may get time to look at 812s@832S if i do I will post or get one of my colleagues to do so.

Cheers
NicW

*Hypnosis4U2NV* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by code65536
...since he's also the one with the DL media to test to see if the OC worked. But then again, I'm not sure if he'd be willing to kill a (very expensive) DL disc testing that.

I didnt quite think about the media and its cost..

Yea, that would be a pretty expensive 'test'..

*nicw* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by code65536
I am curious about the version, though. VST_?

Firmware version is VSV2

cheers
NicW

**OC-Freak** · 15-04-2004

Since it's a pretty hot discussion and drives seems to be appearing all over now.......I see no reason to keep it secret anymore.

I've had my 812S @ 832S without any problems. Not had dual layer media to test with, but everything else works fine

Firmware I used is VSTY:

Nope, I am not allowed to give out the firmware. And yes there is a protection in the EEPROM that prevents the upgrade with just a simple firmware flashing. (EEPROM needs modification).

But nope, I do not think this drive could be clocked to 12x or 16x.

*code65536* · 15-04-2004

@OC

*Hypnosis4U2NV* · 15-04-2004

Tease..

sunicer · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by OC-Freak
Since it's a pretty hot discussion and drives seems to be appearing all over now.......I see no reason to keep it secret anymore.

I've had my 812S @ 832S without any problems. Not had dual layer media to test with, but everything else works fine

Firmware I used is VSTY:

Nope, I am not allowed to give out the firmware. And yes there is a protection in the EEPROM that prevents the upgrade with just a simple firmware flashing. (EEPROM needs modification).

But nope, I do not think this drive could be clocked to 12x or 16x.

why not use Nero INFOTOOL v2.21 which can show DL support or not...

*nicw* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by OC-Freak
[b]Since it's a pretty hot discussion and drives seems to be appearing all over now.......I see no reason to keep it secret anymore.
...snip

if you like I can send you a pre-release of DVDInfoPro V2.40 which I have added (adding) DL support to.

cheers
NicW

**OC-Freak** · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by sunicer
why not use Nero INFOTOOL v2.21 which can show DL support or not...

Nero infotool 2.21 was not released when I made the screenshot (about a week ago).

Right now I'm using it as a SOHW-812S since I'm reviewing it. But the review will be finished in 3-4 days, and then it's up to SOHW-832S again

**C0deKing** · 15-04-2004

So the question is, is the 812S a bargain 832S or not...and does it matter with the media being so expensive anyway...

Ian@CDRLabs.com · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by nicw
if you like I can send you a pre-release of DVDInfoPro V2.40 which I have added (adding) DL support to.

cheers
NicW

Nic, could you please send it my way as well?

frederic · 15-04-2004

Nero Infotool 2.21 support dvd dl

*nicw* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by Ian@CDRLabs.com
Nic, could you please send it my way as well?

Sure thing, check your mail

NicW

Ian@CDRLabs.com · 15-04-2004

Thanks Nic! Much appreciated.

**OC-Freak** · 15-04-2004

I would appreciate it if you could send DVDinfoPRO my way as well. oc-freak@cdfreaks.com

*nicw* · 15-04-2004

Quote:

Originally posted by OC-Freak
I would appreciate it if you could send DVDinfoPRO my way as well. oc-freak@cdfreaks.com

done, check your mail.

cheers
NicW

15-04-2004	#1 (permalink)
nicw Author of DVDInfo Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 190	Liteon SOHW-832s dual layer <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Folks, I have had the dual layer liteon drive a mere 24 hours and already there are those who are being hasty at saying I am hiding information and or not provding detailed info, or bragging etc etc, Just settle petal, the last 24 hours have been hectic both with my work, my family and looking at this new drive and updating infopro to support its extra modes and features. Here is some info you have all been so anxious to see. This is my second post of this (watch out for the phantom post deleter) The drive (SOHW-832s) is a DVD-R 8x, DVD+R 8x, DVD-RW 4x, DVD+RW 4x, and DVD+R DL 2.4x. I have looked at the drive and compared it to a 812s. Unless I am mistaken it seems to use the same chipset but different revisions and the PUH seems to be different. The spindle motor also has a different part number. How much of this is relevant remains to be seen. SOHW-832s: Chipsets MT1816E 0404 BUS y51290 MT1818E 0402 ARS HG2R8 Spindle motor: Sony DRW-2S Part # 310177BDC PUH: BQ3549-2P DB SLO-E SOHW-812s: Chipsets MT1816E 0347 BUS Z35132-SE2 MT1818E 0339 ARS HFSK9 Spindle Motor: Sony DVW-2S Part # 310201ADC PUH: AQ9994-DR DBSLO-D More info as it comes to light, Cheers NicW __________________ Cheers NicW Rudyard Kipling wrote: If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you....If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools

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code65536 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: .us Posts: 5,931	. __________________ "You don't have to be a supporter of freedom of speech to protest when your own ox is being gored. You do have to be a supporter of freedom of speech to protest when the government tries to censor the speech of those who are goring your ox." -Alan M. Dershowitz LiteOn Stuff: LiteOn F.A.Q. \| OmniPatcher \| DVD-Writer Overview \| Changing Write Strategies \| Crossflashing \| XFlash Utility General Stuff: DVD-Writer F.A.Q. \| Rules of the Optical Drive Forums \| Attaching Scans \| The rpc1.org Firmware Database Code Guys: http://codeguys.rpc1.org/ \| send us e-mail I Use: Firefox + ClassicFox \| Google Talk (Jabber) using Gaim for Windows \| Winamp \| EAC \| Google Earth C64K: My Travel Photos \| In Retirement... Last edited by code65536; 16-04-2004 at 11:34.

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Hypnosis4U2NV CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: If you can find me, I didnt do a good job hiding! Posts: 705	Will this make any sort of difference trying to OC the 812S to a 832S? How bout leaking the firmware for testing? Good info none the less.. __________________ Abit NF7-S v2 D22TicTacTurbo AMD Barton XP 2500+ (O/Ced to 3200+) Kingston 2GB PC3200 Dual Channel BenQ DW1640 BSoB LiteOn 812S@832S CG5J (OmniPatched) WD SATA 250GB HD (Primary) Maxtor SATA 160GB HD (Secondary) Radeon 9500 Pro

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Wesociety CD Freak Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 4,997	Thanks for all the info NicW __________________ DVDRentalForums.com Netflix, Blockbuster & other DVD rental services discussion community WesleyTech.com Blu-ray, HD DVD & optical storage blog ~ My Articles & Reviews: Panasonic SW-5582 Blu-ray burner \| BenQ DW1670 Preview \| CDFreaks CES 2006 report \| Panasonic MATSHITA DVD-RAM SW-9585 \| ASUS DRW-1608P \| Memorex DVD+/-RWN16 D2 \| Toshiba SD-R5372 \| ASUS DRW-1604P \| ADS Tech LL5-DLX-185

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Hypnosis4U2NV CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: If you can find me, I didnt do a good job hiding! Posts: 705	NicW: Understood.. Though it shouldnt stop you from fooling around with it? (i.e 812S@832S) __________________ Abit NF7-S v2 D22TicTacTurbo AMD Barton XP 2500+ (O/Ced to 3200+) Kingston 2GB PC3200 Dual Channel BenQ DW1640 BSoB LiteOn 812S@832S CG5J (OmniPatched) WD SATA 250GB HD (Primary) Maxtor SATA 160GB HD (Secondary) Radeon 9500 Pro

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15-04-2004	#10 (permalink)
nicw Author of DVDInfo Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 190	Hmm yeah well, they are $50US per disc, and I have three. I have not burned any at all yet as I want to make sure the test is useful first. I may get time to look at 812s@832S if i do I will post or get one of my colleagues to do so. Cheers NicW __________________ Cheers NicW Rudyard Kipling wrote: If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you....If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools

15-04-2004	#13 (permalink)
OC-Freak Senior Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cdfreaks review lab - Norway Posts: 5,663	Since it's a pretty hot discussion and drives seems to be appearing all over now.......I see no reason to keep it secret anymore. I've had my 812S @ 832S without any problems. Not had dual layer media to test with, but everything else works fine Firmware I used is VSTY: Nope, I am not allowed to give out the firmware. And yes there is a protection in the EEPROM that prevents the upgrade with just a simple firmware flashing. (EEPROM needs modification). But nope, I do not think this drive could be clocked to 12x or 16x. __________________ I'm a real freak in many aspects!

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code65536 CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: .us Posts: 5,931	@OC __________________ "You don't have to be a supporter of freedom of speech to protest when your own ox is being gored. You do have to be a supporter of freedom of speech to protest when the government tries to censor the speech of those who are goring your ox." -Alan M. Dershowitz LiteOn Stuff: LiteOn F.A.Q. \| OmniPatcher \| DVD-Writer Overview \| Changing Write Strategies \| Crossflashing \| XFlash Utility General Stuff: DVD-Writer F.A.Q. \| Rules of the Optical Drive Forums \| Attaching Scans \| The rpc1.org Firmware Database Code Guys: http://codeguys.rpc1.org/ \| send us e-mail I Use: Firefox + ClassicFox \| Google Talk (Jabber) using Gaim for Windows \| Winamp \| EAC \| Google Earth C64K: My Travel Photos \| In Retirement...

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Hypnosis4U2NV CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: If you can find me, I didnt do a good job hiding! Posts: 705	Tease.. __________________ Abit NF7-S v2 D22TicTacTurbo AMD Barton XP 2500+ (O/Ced to 3200+) Kingston 2GB PC3200 Dual Channel BenQ DW1640 BSoB LiteOn 812S@832S CG5J (OmniPatched) WD SATA 250GB HD (Primary) Maxtor SATA 160GB HD (Secondary) Radeon 9500 Pro

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C0deKing Advisory Admin Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: In the pack Posts: 10,118	So the question is, is the 812S a bargain 832S or not...and does it matter with the media being so expensive anyway...

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frederic New on Forum Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 10	Nero Infotool 2.21 support dvd dl

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Ian@CDRLabs.com New on Forum Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 16	Thanks Nic! Much appreciated. __________________ www.cdrlabs.com

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OC-Freak Senior Admin Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Cdfreaks review lab - Norway Posts: 5,663	I would appreciate it if you could send DVDinfoPRO my way as well. oc-freak@cdfreaks.com __________________ I'm a real freak in many aspects!

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