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Old 23-01-2007   #76 (permalink)
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

Thanks Cressida. Good to see the 16A7S uses 16x.

I'll see what I can do to make the 18A1P/H firmware work the same.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

There is no firmware difference. A 18A1P@20A1H reads a YUDEN000 T02@16x, and so does a 18A1P with the fb-eos and also with the original firmware. Tested without even ejecting the disk between the flashes, still reading @16x.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

Thanks ala42. I just checked the firmware and there is no obvious slowdown for media branded less than 16x, like in earlier models.

I did however search the 18A1P thread (which has very few read scans) and I eventually found one read scan from bichi of an 8x disc that read at 12x.

So I'm confused as to why some are reading at 12x and some at 16x.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

bichi's disc was bitset to DVD-ROM as well.
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=1632859

Can someone confirm whether an 8x branded disc, not bitset to DVD-ROM, reads at 16x in the 18A1P. Thanks.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

I did already
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Hehe, thanks, I meant someone who is only getting 12x at the moment.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

Nice timing & quality for a Prodisc @ 20x!!!

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Hehe, thanks, I meant someone who is only getting 12x at the moment.
recommend we crossflash our dw1800 to Lite-On LH-20A1 ? i think read speed should runs full 16x speed.
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recommend we crossflash our dw1800 to Lite-On LH-20A1 ? i think read speed should runs full 16x speed.
I'm not sure it will:
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Hi C0deKing,

First of all, I would like to say thank you for all your hard work.

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Thanks for your work C0deKing!

Liteon 181AP GL0F patched fb-eos
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Hehe, thanks, I meant someone who is only getting 12x at the moment.
RICOHJPN R02 (Maxell 8X) burned with LH-18A1P (GL0C) and no bitsetting:
(Same strange dip which I don't get with 16X media and is not due to the disc. Drive connected via USB.)
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NewFish, looks like they sell good quality Verbatim MCC004 in Russia.
Yes, they do, but crap media is also available.
Thanks for your wonderful fb-eos fw.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

Gembird DVD+R 16x, MCC 004, China
Fw - KL05-fb-eos
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Burn speed - 12x
Lead-in - 40 sec.
Burn time - 6:17
Looks good, though not as good as Verbatim MCC 004.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

Drive - LITE-ON LH-20A1P / KL05 Enhanced by "C0deKing"
MID: ProdiscS05 16x DVD-R (TDK brand)
Burned with: Nero CDSpeed
Burned at: 20x
Time: 5:41
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Special note: My LH-20A1P's quality scan with its own written media is usually very harsh
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Drive - LITE-ON LH-20A1P / KL05 Enhanced by "C0deKing"
MID: DAXON AZ3 16x DVD-R (BenQ brand)
Burned with: Nero CDSpeed
Burned at: 20x
Time: 6:31
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Special note: The 'deep dips' can last for as long as 15sec
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

@Sen, looking at your scans i think you got a bad drive, it should be RMAed back. Take it back and get another one of the same, hopefully it will be a good one.
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Here's ritek f16 burned at 20x using the fb-eos firmware. I think this is a great results for this media, especially at this speed.
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Drive - LITE-ON LH-20A1P / KL05 Enhanced by "C0deKing"
MID: DAXON AZ3 16x DVD-R (BenQ brand)
Burned with: Nero CDSpeed
Burned at: 20x
Time: 6:31
HT=on/OS=on/OHT=on
Special note: The 'deep dips' can last for as long as 15sec
Most media won't burn at 20x. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I almost took out the ability to overspeed to 20x because only very good media will be able to do it. The long delays indicates that the drive cannot get a lock back on the media, be it due to tracking or focus. The other thing is that at these RPMs the disc can start to distort making it very hard to focus on the disc during a full revolution.

So what I'm saying here is, don't expect every disc that offers the 20x burn speed to burn at this speed, because most won't, but I left it in because it's fun to try anyway.

Edit: One other thing. I've also found that clearing OPC improved my 18x and 20x burning but it deteriorated after a few burns. Just in case it doesn't work the same for you, make sure you backup your EEPROM before trying it, so you can go back.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

Last disc on spindle, little scratched so I just had to play around... Got my fastest Litey burn ever; 5:04.
Thanks to all making this possible.

MID: MCC-004...
Type: DVD+R 16x rated
Burned with: CD/DVD Speed 4.7.0.0
Burned as: Create Disc
Burned at: 20x speed
Burntime: 5:04
PreBurn Calibration: 48 seconds
Drive/Firmware: LH-20A1P / KL05_fb_eos

All of my drives can read back disc without problems.
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

Yes, i also suspected it's one of the not so good batches. But unfortunately the writer is bought from another country, so RMA is kinda troublesome. Thank you for your valuable comment, SonnyUnlocker.

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18A1H@20A1H LL06 FB-EOS, Verbatim MCC004 @20x:
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Re: LiteOn 16A7S, 18A1P/H, 20A1P/H FastBurn & Enhanced OverSpeed Firmware *Released*

C0deKing, thank you for the valuable insight. I will try a few more unrated 20x burn, it's fun.

BTW i cleared my OPC without even backing up just before these unrated 20x burn. I'm still a noob with Lite-On drive.

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Most media won't burn at 20x. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I almost took out the ability to overspeed to 20x because only very good media will be able to do it. The long delays indicates that the drive cannot get a lock back on the media, be it due to tracking or focus. The other thing is that at these RPMs the disc can start to distort making it very hard to focus on the disc during a full revolution.

So what I'm saying here is, don't expect every disc that offers the 20x burn speed to burn at this speed, because most won't, but I left it in because it's fun to try anyway.

Edit: One other thing. I've also found that clearing OPC improved my 18x and 20x burning but it deteriorated after a few burns. Just in case it doesn't work the same for you, make sure you backup your EEPROM before trying it, so you can go back.
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