Changing DVD±R write strategies (results thread)

[alkeron]

longten 001 dvd-r burned with longten 009 strat.
Burned with DVDDecrypter [may not have closed burn? didn't see it in log]
USON on a sohw-812s with earlier shift, force shifting and force-fallback.
First is original strat, second is swap. Swap did not work out.

[alkeron]

g04 dvd-r burned with g06 strat, at 8x.
USON on 812s, all 3 burn options and autobitsetting ticked.
Disk is unlabled bulk.
Burned with DVDdecrypter, the speed was odd. The first 10% was
at 2.5x, then 4x up to 40%, then the last 60% at 8x.
The disc has 3 different coloured rings on it
The burn was a disaster.

[alkeron]

USON on 812s, all 3 burn options ticked in OP.
Burned with DVDdecrypter at 4x.
@ronnallan - how do i shrink png images? [i dont have photoshop or anything like that]

[xzas]

burned and scanned with 812S@832S VS05
mainboard chipset: nforce2 (lastest driver installed)
burning software : nero 6.3.1.15
meda name: Hawk
media id:



Disc Type DVD-R
Book Type DVD-R
Manufacturer Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation
Media ID MCC 01RG20
Protection System None
Region 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8
Capacity 4,17 GB
Free Size 0,00 GB
Free Blocks 0
Number of Layers 1
Linear Density 0.267 um/bit
Track Density 0.74 um/track
Maximum Read Speed 7,8x
Maximum Write Speed 8,0x
Current Write Speed 8,0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 1 8,0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 2 6,0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 3 4,0x CLV
Write Speed Performance Descriptor 4 2,0x CLV



burned at 4x MCC 01RG20 (without write strategy included)
http://club.cdfreaks.com/attachment....tid=5884&stc=1


burned at 8x MCC 01RG02@TYG02 (with write strategy and overspeed included)
http://club.cdfreaks.com/attachment....tid=5885&stc=1


What write strategy you guys syggest to use with such a media?

[xzas]

on more write strategy with the same media and hardware parameters, but now with the last bios version VS08

the current used write strategy: MCC01RG02@MBI03RG03
medie was burned with 4x speed (so wasn't overspeeded)

here is the kprobe graph:

[Vertigo]

1213s w/ TS08 FW
TY +R T01/00 Media

Here are a couple of burns I did @ 8x using the T02 strat for my T01 media. As you can see, I'm getting some pretty excellent results.

[bogdanm]

Drive: Teac DV-W58G-A @ 832S VS08
Media: eProformance - PRODISCR02
Hacks: PRODISCR02@PRODISCR03, force-fallback
Burn speed: 8x
Software: Nero 6.3.0.0 (too lazy to upgrade)
Image size: 4,673,187,996 bytes

Not bad at all IMHO. To my greatest surprise it seems that the write results of the TEAC are generally worse than the write results of the LiteOn drives. Nevertheless, I'm quite happy with this result. Thank you for the omnipatcher, it RULES

[Jamos]

This is about the best i can do with this media and drive it seems. i know others were getting better results with E01 media but this is hp media which like memorex latley is dropping a bit in quality. still though a very acceptable burn.

Drive: Liteon 812 @ 832S VS08
Media: HP CMCMAGE01
Hacks: autobitset
Burn speed: 8x
Software: Decryptor

[Jamos]

Drive: Liteon 812 @ 832S VS08
Media: HP CMCMAGE01
Hacks: PRODISCR03
Burn speed: 8x
Software: Decryptor

[nakedeye]

okay I've got a few here and i cant seem to find one that is realy good. these are all on 812@832 burned at 8X Prodisc S03. as you can see im having major issues with the 4X area of the burn on all of these. First one is not swaped

second is s03@ ritek G06 Beautifull except the MAJOR errors at 4X

third is s03@tyt02 kinda all over the place

last is s03@f01 this is the best one i think


any ideas?

[Oats]

Burned/read with 812S@832S using VS08
Media is Ritek M02 DVD-R
Burned with Nero 6.3

First burn in with default strat at 4X (click the link, I had already uploaded it to a different thread)
Second burn is with MCC01RG20 at 4X
Third burn is with MCC02RG20 at 4X

[mrbill21]

Media Code: RICOHJPNR00
Media Decription: Arita brand, marked "2.4x DVD+R", purple & white label
Drive: LiteOn 851
Base Firmware: GS0K
Firmware Patches: fast-burn, shift-fix and swap information listed below
Firmware Patcher: Omnipatcher 1.3.3
Burning Software: Nero 6.3.1.17
Testing Software: KProbe 2.2.2 @ 4x Speed

DISK 1 - stock write strategy & stock Firmware, Burned @ 2.4x
Note: (burn speed limited by stock firmware)
PI Max: 7 .. Average: 0.40 ___ PIF Max: 2 .. Average: 0.01

DISK 2 - swap RICOHJPNR01 write strategy, patched firmware, Burned @ 4x
PI Max: 33 .. Average: 0.59 ___ PIF Max: 3 .. Average: 0.01

DISK 3 - swap RICOHJPNR02 write strategy, patched firmware, Burned @ 4x
PI Max: 38 .. Average: 0.58 ___ PIF Max: 2 .. Average: 0.00

DISK 4 - swap RITEK02 write strategy, patched firmware, Burned @ 4x
PI Max: 42 .. Average: 5.31 ___ PIF Max: 12 .. Average: 0.50

DISK 5 - swap PRODISC03 write strategy, patched firmware, Burned @ 4x
PI Max: 45 .. Average: 1.22 ___ PIF Max: 9 .. Average: 0.04

DISK 6 - swap RICOHJPNR01 write strategy, patched firmware, Burned @ 8x
PI Max: 324 .. Average: 31.50 ___ PIF Max: 13 .. Average: 0.09

DISK 7 - swap RICOHJPNR02 write strategy, patched firmware, Burned @ 8x
PI Max: 141 .. Average: 33.26 ___ PIF Max: 5 .. Average: 0.01

DISK 8 - swap RITEK02 write strategy, patched firmware, Burned @ 8x
PI Max: 64 .. Average: 13.41 ___ PIF Max: 6 .. Average: 0.03


And lastly, this worrisom oddity. Burned from a .NRG (Nero Image) file, produced consistent coasters at 4x & 8x under multiple write strategies:
DISK 9 - swap RICOHJPNR01 write strategy, patched firmware, Burned @ 4x
PI Max: 843 .. Average: 144.30 ___ PIF Max: 222 .. Average: 11.48


Conclusion:
With a LiteOn 851 using Arita (Ridata) branded RICOHJPNR00 media,
- 2.4x produced consistently amazing burns. Obvious choice for highest quality.
- For 4x, RICOHJPNR02 and RICOHJPNR01 swaps produced the best and penultimate quality (among those tested)
- For 8x, RITEK02 and RICOHJPN02 swaps produced the best and penultimate quality (among those tested)
- At 8x, RICOHJPN01 swap, the "stock" Omnipatch patch, produced partially dysfunctional DVDs
- Burning from Nero image files (.NRG) with this setup is not recommended. Extract first.

Thanks to code65536 & C0deKing for making this possible.

[evilhead]

RICOHJPNR01 sold as Memorex 4x burned on 812s@832s VS08 at 8x using RICOHJPNR01 @ RICOHJPNR02 strategy. Nice result.

[mbar]

Firstly I tried to burn GSC002 DVD-R rated for 4x at 8x. (812S @ 832S VS08). This went better than I anticipated, burn succesful, verify OK. Here's K-scan of GSC002 written at 8x (simple overspeed, no burn strategy changed):

Encouraged by this quite good result, considering it's cheap media (Esperanza Special Quality Edition), I changed burn strategy of GSC002 to GSC003, which is rated for 8x. Here's scan of second disk (GSC002 @ GSC003 strat, 8x write):

And I think it's even better than the first, cause when I looked at disk write surface I noticed that zone rings are more uniform with GSC003 strat. When I used default GSC002 strat and 8x overspeed, zone burn rings are more visible, with 4x zone being the darkest and 8x zone being normal in reflexibility. This effect is also visible on K-scans.

BTW, MCC 10RG20 (Verbatim DVD-R, 4x) media (supposedly better than GSC002) failed to burn at 8x (bad blocks at 8x zone). Seems that cheapo GSC002 is quite good in terms of quality...

[Spartane]

Burner Drive: LITE-ON 451@832
Firmware: VSO8
Strategy: CMC MAG/F01/00 @ PRODISC/R03/00
1st Disc Scan: HP - 8X burn speed
2nd Disc Scan: Khypermedia - 4X burn speed
Program: Nero 5.5.10.56

When I upgraded to the new VSO8 firmware thanks again, codeguys , I noticed that my CMC MAG/F01/00 ->CMC MAG/R01/00 strategy no longer produced good Kprobe results, so I went looking for another strategy - and I found this PRODISC strategy produces reasonably good results. As usual, the HP media burns better than the KhyperMedia discs, even though both have the same media code.

[code65536]

Drive/firmware: LDW-451S@SOHW-832S, VSC3 (early-shifting, shift-fixing)
Media type: RITEKR03-02, red-shrinkwrapped RiDATA inkjet printables from Newegg
Burn speed: 8x

Here is a "before" burn, at 8x, using the original RITEKR03-02 strategy:


And here it is after switching to a YUDEN000T02 strategy:


When played in a standalone, the disc burned with the stock strat exhibits pixelation at the end while the disc burned with the TY strat played back smoothly. This is consistent with the KProbe scans.

Because RiTEK media has been known to vary from disc to disc within a batch, I repeated the experiment. The results from this second set of trials were pretty much the same.

[resmith63]

results of using Memorex 4x DVD+R CMC MAGF01 @ already tweaked strat of R01 in the omnipatcher. Should I have expected better? I dunno.

[rdgrimes]

Drive: 401@811S, HS0Q
Media: Ricoh JPNR-00

Burned with Ricoh R02 at 8x:



Burned with Ritek R03 at 8x plus early shift:

[evilhead]

I got nice result with RICOHJPNR01@RICOHJPNR02 @8x with my 812@832 VS08 but I wanted to test it with RICOHJPNR01 strat, I've to say that RICOHJPNR01 strat seems better.

I'm appending scans.

[unkdunk]

CMC MAG F01@E01 Khypermedia 4x disc burned at 8x on a 451s@832s with all omnipatcher options checked but earlier shift.

[jimbozed]

Lite-on 812s @ 832s Vs08
1st-ritek Printable Go4@go4
2nd-ritek Printable Go4@go6
Both At X4 With Nero 6 Ultra

[nakedeye]

okay, I have been going nuts trying to get these prodisc s03 to work good with a lite on burner. I switched back to us0n after reading and experiancing worse burns with vs08/vs0a. all are at 8X

I think i may have finaly found a decent strat for these discs.

first burn is is done at daxon008. actualy i was pleasantly suprised to see the results, not to bad at all

the second is at mxl rg03. not the worst, but not the best either

the last one floored me. its gsc03. not bad at all!

[esputer]

RicohR00@ricohR02
Burned @ 4x

_51@832
VS08
This is my best scan ever no spykes deleted

PI_max=6 avarage=0.23 total=3290
Pif_max=2 avarege=0.00 total=146

even codeguys remove this strat from the recomended it does give good result to me so i am still using it
anyway excelent job codeguys

[prking]

This was burnt on an ldw-851s with firmware GSOK
The disc burnt was a Khypermedia(tdkG02000) 2x dvd-r burnt at 4x
with Taiyoyuden strat.

tdkG02000@Taiyoyuden 4x



it was scaned in an ldw-411s, just because the tower where i have the 4 ldw-851s is just strictly for burning and no other programs instaled and will never be installed!!

[prking]

This is a value disc 4x dvd+r(cmcmag f01) burnt at 6x using prodisc r03 strat.
It was burnt on an ldw-851s with firmware GSOK and all omnipatcher features checked!!

cmcmag F01@prodisc R03 swap at 6x




prodisc R03 is a nice strat for this firmware for the cmcmag F01!!