Changing DVD±R write strategies (results thread)

[trialchild]

hi everyone.

i've always used ridata dvds because i've never had any problems with them
and scans were always good.

but i haven't burned anything for quite a while and didn't know about the bad
quality the g05s were and bought another 50pk of ritek to find out they were
g05s.

initially, my firmware was the first released us01 and did not like these dvds
at all. i updated my firmware to the latest us0s and it did not like it, either.
i crossflashed to the vs0j (i think it is) 832s and was able to burn a readable
dvd -- but the pi/po scan barely changed, if it did at all. so now i was able
to burn readable, but badly burned, dvds.

i tried different speeds, reset rlm and am now trying different writing
strategies. it seemed that people were getting very good results with g06
strat, but.. well, i got barely better than default strat. i've tried MXLRG03
and produced a dvd that wasn't readable.

i'm currently testing TTG02 as i've seen someone else who had a good
experience with it.

i was wondering what else i should try that was good for a RitekG05 8x?
i've already wasted more than 10 dvds and i'm no longer willing to waste
anymore trying things and want to minimize losses now.

any suggestions?
if anything, here are my first burns and tests:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread....83#post1195429

[vdk_au]

hmmm..was juz lookin few first few pages of this post, and there was a picture of a wrongly used strat for a dvd disc, which showed the extra swirls around the disc. i was juz lookin through my cheapo discs i bought a while ago, and it had the same thing. i was using yuden strat on these...but the discs were gud burns, shud i be worried??? yea, and i was lookin at one of those discs where i didn't change the strat, and there were no swirls....

maybe that's why my burner has broken recently and i juz purchased a new one!
and yea, i've juz burnt two ritek-ro03 discs, with default strat on my 1635s, and there's no swirls, but with my 832s when i burnt them using the recommended tweaks, there is a single swirl near centre, is this normal?

thanks

[WiltonParmenter]

Is there any reason that whenever I click on this thread, I get an message screen that looks like the following:

[Bob]

Don't get that here. Might be password for an image that member posted.

[WiltonParmenter]

How about when you click on page 1 of this thread, or click on the direct link to this thread:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=100190

[Bob]

Originally Posted by WiltonParmenter

How about when you click on page 1 of this thread, or click on the direct link to this thread:

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=100190

Yes i get it on that link. Like i said when loading that page it hits that persons link to load pic and they have it password protected. Not sure why they would do that but they did. Just keep clicking cancel and the page will load. They didn't upload the pic from pc but provided link to the host where pic is stored.

[WiltonParmenter]

Originally Posted by rolling56

Not sure why they would do that but they did. Just keep clicking cancel and the page will load. They didn't upload the pic from pc but provided link to the host where pic is stored.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this to one of the board moderators so that they could disable the link. It's a bit of a time drag to watch one's script shield go through conniptions when checking an additional link and network pop-up screen.

[derffred]

This post could fit in several places in this forum.

I'm having recent problems with my Lite-On 812S.
The first DVD burned with stock firmware US0N.
KProbe result:

[derffred]

I decided to patch the US0N with the 'force fallback' for 8x +R and the result on the same media was better.
KProbe result:

[derffred]

When my stock of Verbatim 8x +R ran out and I could not find any more in this city I decided to update the firmware and try some different brands of 8x +R.

I changed the firmware to US0S Patched with the 'force fallback' option and burned one disc. I was shocked at the poor quality.
KProbe result:

[derffred]

I then decided to try the stock US0S but didn't have another Mitsubishi disc so I wrote the same data to a HP one instead. The PI count on this is 3x that of about 100 discs burned on Verbatim 8x +R MCC003 with patched US0N.
Maybe the one Mitsubishi was a bad disc. I expected it to be almost identical to all the Verbatims, both being MCC003.
KProbe result:

[derffred]

I'd better clarify one point in my first post. The disc was burned in June 2004 with unpatched US0N but tested today with KProbe, the writer having had the firmware change yesterday.

If the Verbatim 8x +R become available again in Bangkok I'll go back to them. If not, I really don't know what media, firmware combination to use. I can't afford at US$2 per disc to test dozens of discs.

[EspinhaT]

A RiDisc (CMC MAG E01) @ MCC003 burnt at 8x, I've never been so confused with a scan

- PIF errors are very high but don't go over 250, still the PIF total goes way over 100,000 (I believe this was the value I've seen to be the ideal target below which you want to be).

- PI errors are so low that I'm amazed, still the PI total goes over 500.

Please guys help me out here, is this media reliable or not so much? (Many say that PI errors are more reliable to tell about the media's quality than the PIF ones, but I'm confused).

[pinto2]

This thread has been dead for quite a while now, but with help from a friend on this forum I'll try to bring it back to life...

MID: RITEK-R03 (Maxell branded)
Type: DVD+R 8x rated
Write strategy: RITEK-R04
Burned with: CD-DVD Speed 4.70
Burned as: Create Disc
Burned at: 16x speed
Burntime: 5:53
On disc: Movie ISO 4,31GB
Drive/Firmware: LH-18A1P @LH-20A1P / KL05
OHT=On.

This is problematic media to overspeed in general, I'm surprised with the good outcome.
.