Burning at 67x (image included, see it for yourself) - Club CDFreaks

sforza · 12-02-2003

Hello guys,

I was burning an .nrg image from my hard disc to a verbatim 48x mcertified media with my LiteOn 48125S with the firmware it came bundled originally, when I got this screen:

I have the "show actual speed" trick at the registry.

The image is from the end of the burning process, but the speed was very fast during all the process, and went faster and faster little by little, stopping at that speed you can see at the capture.

This was the first and only time I got those results, but it's the one and only time I have burnt one of those cds.

The disc is working ok, no errors when I tested it with the Scandisc option at NeroSpeed.

What do you think, guys? any explanation? have you seen this before?

Thanks in advance.

/EDITED to fix the host of the image, now it's showing again

*dhc014* · 12-02-2003

That's interesting. The speed reported is probably not correct, otherwise Nero would have made the feature an option.

*rdgrimes* · 12-02-2003

I believe that Nero calculates the indicated speed based on the kB/sec transfer rate. Perhaps this is some burst being reflected. I recall an old post of something similar, but I seem to remember that the speed on that one was even faster.
Maybe the secret is in the language packs? Should we all go download the language to get the better speeds?

*kwkard* · 12-02-2003

well you beat my record of 64.8x on my yamaha crw-f1. I don't know why it does this. Also, whenever i read a disc to an image, it gives me insane speeds like writing image at 20,000 kbps to the hd. Which is somewhere in the neighborhood of 125x. Its freaking crazy. Oh yeah, i got this with the englsih version.

sforza · 12-02-2003

Well, this is spanish.

I don't think it has nothing to do with the languaje packs... as I said, this is the only time I got such high burning speeds, I only had one of those verbatim discs. Tomorrow maybe I can get some more from the same brand to test, maybe I can repeat the situation with the same conditions.

onlinetracker · 12-02-2003

The information from the buffer sometimes throws off speed/transfer ratings, because obviously from memory its going to fly by. As things level out over time, you'd probably see that drop to the 48x range.

Could be wrong...

*kwkard* · 12-02-2003

thats an interesting theory, i have nero set in the ultra buffer to be 80megs of ram. The max without it getting mad. Maybe a lower setting there would eliminate it.

*Stoner* · 12-02-2003

You sure it's not the weird metric system you guys are using over there that's causing the false speed reading?

*kwkard* · 12-02-2003

nope, i use real mesurement, and i was a victim.

I Have Piles · 14-02-2003

My mates did that when he was using old motherboard BIOS

*Kenshin* · 16-02-2003

Looks like 48x to me.

dewilde · 18-02-2003

I've seen the same effects when I use CloneCD to make an image of a WRONGLY mastered VCD. These VCD's always have the faults that they've blocksizes of 2352 like an audio cd instead of 2324 which is standard for VCD.
Might this have been the situation for you too ?

It does the imaging, but it all becomes crap. Imaging such a VCD won't work, only remastering the MPEG again will solve it.

sforza · 18-02-2003

This was an .nrg image of Adobe Acrobat software.

No mpeg here, sorry.

BTW It's been impossible to get again the same results, even with the same media.

12-02-2003	#1 (permalink)
sforza CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 52	Burning at 67x (image included, see it for yourself) <a href='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/ck.php?n=a13febf7&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE' target='_blank'><img src='http://adstats.cdfreaks.com/www/delivery/avw.php?zoneid=30&cb=INSERT_RANDOM_NUMBER_HERE&n=a13febf7' border='0' alt='' /></a> Hello guys, I was burning an .nrg image from my hard disc to a verbatim 48x mcertified media with my LiteOn 48125S with the firmware it came bundled originally, when I got this screen: I have the "show actual speed" trick at the registry. The image is from the end of the burning process, but the speed was very fast during all the process, and went faster and faster little by little, stopping at that speed you can see at the capture. This was the first and only time I got those results, but it's the one and only time I have burnt one of those cds. The disc is working ok, no errors when I tested it with the Scandisc option at NeroSpeed. What do you think, guys? any explanation? have you seen this before? Thanks in advance. /EDITED to fix the host of the image, now it's showing again Last edited by sforza; 16-06-2003 at 17:04.

12-02-2003	#2 (permalink)
dhc014 Retired Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 4,353	That's interesting. The speed reported is probably not correct, otherwise Nero would have made the feature an option. __________________ .:: Dave \| http://dhc014.rpc1.org ::.

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kwkard CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: int main() { Posts: 1,720	well you beat my record of 64.8x on my yamaha crw-f1. I don't know why it does this. Also, whenever i read a disc to an image, it gives me insane speeds like writing image at 20,000 kbps to the hd. Which is somewhere in the neighborhood of 125x. Its freaking crazy. Oh yeah, i got this with the englsih version. __________________ I smart, learn fast. The Coolest Page Ever My drives: Benq 1640 BSLB Benq 1625 BBHA (Rebadge HP 640c)(Lightscribe) LG GSA-4163B A104 NEC ND-3520A 1.04 NEC ND-3500AG LD 2.FD Liteon SOHW-812s@832s VS0E Liteon SOHW-1633S BS41 Liteon SOHC 5232K NK0H Yamaha CRW-F1 1.0g And yes these are all in one PC. Hehe.

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onlinetracker New on Forum Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 19	Most likely its because of the buffer... The information from the buffer sometimes throws off speed/transfer ratings, because obviously from memory its going to fly by. As things level out over time, you'd probably see that drop to the 48x range. Could be wrong...

12-02-2003	#7 (permalink)
kwkard CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: int main() { Posts: 1,720	thats an interesting theory, i have nero set in the ultra buffer to be 80megs of ram. The max without it getting mad. Maybe a lower setting there would eliminate it. __________________ I smart, learn fast. The Coolest Page Ever My drives: Benq 1640 BSLB Benq 1625 BBHA (Rebadge HP 640c)(Lightscribe) LG GSA-4163B A104 NEC ND-3520A 1.04 NEC ND-3500AG LD 2.FD Liteon SOHW-812s@832s VS0E Liteon SOHW-1633S BS41 Liteon SOHC 5232K NK0H Yamaha CRW-F1 1.0g And yes these are all in one PC. Hehe.

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12-02-2003	#3 (permalink)
rdgrimes Retired Moderator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Deadwood Posts: 11,449	I believe that Nero calculates the indicated speed based on the kB/sec transfer rate. Perhaps this is some burst being reflected. I recall an old post of something similar, but I seem to remember that the speed on that one was even faster. Maybe the secret is in the language packs? Should we all go download the language to get the better speeds?

12-02-2003	#5 (permalink)
sforza CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 52	Well, this is spanish. I don't think it has nothing to do with the languaje packs... as I said, this is the only time I got such high burning speeds, I only had one of those verbatim discs. Tomorrow maybe I can get some more from the same brand to test, maybe I can repeat the situation with the same conditions.

12-02-2003	#8 (permalink)
Stoner CD Freaks Troll Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,358	You sure it's not the weird metric system you guys are using over there that's causing the false speed reading?

12-02-2003	#9 (permalink)
kwkard CDFreaks Resident Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: int main() { Posts: 1,720	nope, i use real mesurement, and i was a victim. __________________ I smart, learn fast. The Coolest Page Ever My drives: Benq 1640 BSLB Benq 1625 BBHA (Rebadge HP 640c)(Lightscribe) LG GSA-4163B A104 NEC ND-3520A 1.04 NEC ND-3500AG LD 2.FD Liteon SOHW-812s@832s VS0E Liteon SOHW-1633S BS41 Liteon SOHC 5232K NK0H Yamaha CRW-F1 1.0g And yes these are all in one PC. Hehe.

14-02-2003	#10 (permalink)
I Have Piles CD Freaks Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 411	My mates did that when he was using old motherboard BIOS

16-02-2003	#11 (permalink)
Kenshin CDFreaks Resident Join Date: May 2002 Location: Near Seoul, South Korea Posts: 12,363	Looks like 48x to me. __________________ Kill Confucius

18-02-2003	#12 (permalink)
dewilde CD Freaks Rookie Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 32	I've seen the same effects when I use CloneCD to make an image of a WRONGLY mastered VCD. These VCD's always have the faults that they've blocksizes of 2352 like an audio cd instead of 2324 which is standard for VCD. Might this have been the situation for you too ? It does the imaging, but it all becomes crap. Imaging such a VCD won't work, only remastering the MPEG again will solve it. __________________ AMD XP 2500+ / 1024MB / WinXP-SP1 / NEC1100A DVD+RW / LiteOn 40125W (OC'd to 48125W VS0D) CDRW / LiteOn DVD-ROM / Nero 5.5.9.14 / CloneCD 4.0.1.10

18-02-2003	#13 (permalink)
sforza CD Freaks Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 52	This was an .nrg image of Adobe Acrobat software. No mpeg here, sorry. BTW It's been impossible to get again the same results, even with the same media.

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